| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:09
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omf_ |
http://aaronbatalion.com/post/46617716711/moving-on-to-new-adventures - LivingSocial co-founder quits |
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00:10
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omf_ |
Which is not a surprise since they were goodreads before goodreads existing but killed that app because fuck you |
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01:06
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closure |
so, identi.ca is moving to a new platform and they're backing up all their user's data on archive.org before taking it down |
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01:07
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|
closure |
doing it Right.. but hilariously here's the founder getting bugged by users who don't want to be archived http://identi.ca/conversation/99313029#notice-100391723 |
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01:14
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omf_ |
backups everywhere \o/ |
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02:34
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dashcloud |
this is interesting: http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2013/03/27/internet-explorer-11s-user-agent-string-what-does-it-mean/ IE 11's changed it's user agent string, possibly in an effort to not be treated as IE of old |
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02:40
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omf_ |
They are trying to shed over a decade of IE only CSS garbage |
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02:40
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yipdw |
I'm going to guess that that change means absolutely nothing |
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02:40
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omf_ |
The reality is their browser is still behind the times |
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02:40
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yipdw |
to the IE team |
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02:41
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yipdw |
and the Internet, like it usually does, is exploding it out of proportion |
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02:41
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omf_ |
I think they are going to remove all those backwards compatible modes |
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02:41
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omf_ |
which used to be a key selling feature until they figured out it fucked things up more |
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02:41
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yipdw |
everyone's moving on to feature detection anyway |
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02:41
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omf_ |
UA sniffing was never a good idea |
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02:42
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yipdw |
I do however find it interesting how a user-agent string change can trigger a blog post |
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02:43
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dashcloud |
that's rather interesting because if it's true, that means Gecko will show up nearly every modern UA string |
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02:47
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yipdw |
yeah, it's an interesting study in backwards compatibility |
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06:00
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|
godane |
so i'm uploading some files very slowly |
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06:00
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godane |
only cause there is hidden character or something |
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06:01
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|
godane |
it cause IA to give me a 400 bad request |
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06:02
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|
godane |
luckly i can remove the last word and then readd it back in |
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06:02
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|
godane |
to fix it |
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06:17
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|
godane |
looks like + is replaced with %2B |
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06:18
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godane |
i only readd + in names with spaces so it was in sync with the xml data list i have |
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07:53
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godane |
so i just saved a gamespot episode |
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07:53
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godane |
that was lost |
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10:03
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|
SketchCow |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO2rM-l-vdQ |
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10:03
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|
SketchCow |
Unreal Engine 4 real-time demo. |
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10:03
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SketchCow |
Of course YouTubers are calling it out, but they showed it real-time switching dynamic lighting and wireframes, etc. |
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10:38
🔗
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godane |
still finding tons of dialup episodes of the screen savers |
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10:39
🔗
|
godane |
trying to give you guys enough of the index to give a big picture of g4 videos index |
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13:19
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omf_ |
gotta power down again for a hardware upgrade. |
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13:42
🔗
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omf_ |
The replacement fan didn't exactly fit |
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17:04
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Schbirid |
linux game tome will shut down http://happypenguin.org/newsitem?id=11236 |
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17:04
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Schbirid |
"Sometime soon, I'll make available a dump of the Game Tome games database (minus user information) that anyone may use for any purpose they'd like, including building a successor site." |
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17:10
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Smiley |
Schbirid: yup, someone here has grabbed it, possibly omf_ |
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17:10
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|
Smiley |
I don't recall who, I posted here about it tho. |
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17:10
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Schbirid |
good! :) |
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18:07
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balrog_ |
uhh can anyone here help with grapyahoogroup? |
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18:12
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chronomex |
? |
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18:13
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|
balrog_ |
http://sourceforge.net/p/grabyahoogroup/code/127/tree/ |
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18:13
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balrog_ |
specifically http://sourceforge.net/p/grabyahoogroup/code/127/tree/trunk/yahoo_group/ |
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18:13
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|
balrog_ |
it's supposed to download yahoo groups |
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18:13
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balrog_ |
but I don't know perl :/ |
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18:16
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balrog_ |
hmm I got it working ;) |
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18:16
🔗
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chronomex |
oh |
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18:21
🔗
|
* |
balrog_ starts downloading entire Yahoo groups |
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19:23
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godane |
i'm starting to mirror happypenguin.org |
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19:52
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omf_ |
godane, it is already done |
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19:53
🔗
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omf_ |
I already got all of happypenguin.org |
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19:54
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|
godane |
thanks |
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20:01
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omf_ |
So a recently released report says that the top ecommerce sites have been getting slower since the end of 2011 |
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20:10
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|
godane |
so ch00806100 was screwed up twice |
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20:10
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Smiley |
omf_: o_O |
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20:11
🔗
|
godane |
i only know cause both ch00806100 and ch00806100_2 are just the color screen |
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20:11
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|
godane |
with tone |
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20:24
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omf_ |
http://www.webperformancetoday.com/2013/03/27/top-ecommerce-sites-are-slower-than-they-were-last-year/ |
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20:24
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|
omf_ |
5.94 to 7.25 seconds per page load |
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20:24
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omf_ |
and ideal is < 3s |
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20:26
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|
Smiley |
o-O weird. |
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20:26
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|
Smiley |
any reaoning to it? I'll need to have a read. |
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20:27
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|
omf_ |
Developers are lazy |
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20:27
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|
omf_ |
applications are trying to do more now |
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20:28
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omf_ |
Basically the top three reasons they found all point to developers not optimizing websites |
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20:33
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omf_ |
As a developer I agree with this article. Most web devs are happy just to have a working app on time |
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20:35
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Aranje |
yeah ew |
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20:36
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omf_ |
I stress the on time part |
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20:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
awr |
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20:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
rawr |
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20:38
🔗
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omf_ |
:3 |
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20:41
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|
Aranje |
yeah |
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20:42
🔗
|
Aranje |
What horrifies me (and instantly loses a site my business) is when their ad network stuff loads faster than the actual page |
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20:43
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omf_ |
Why would a commerce site need an ad network anyway |
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20:44
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omf_ |
Oh this one is good: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/233192/detecting-stealth-web-crawlers |
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21:26
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|
Trancer |
they are also doing more real time analytics and optimizations behind the scenes for you.. which take time |
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21:27
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omf_ |
Yeah I watch a tech talk which showed how real time analytics hardly do anything. It is mostly hype |
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21:28
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omf_ |
How does knowing 85 of something sold in the last second help right this instance versus looking at the day as a whole at the end of the day |
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21:28
🔗
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nico_32 |
so let's continue here Smiley |
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21:28
🔗
|
nico_32 |
i try to put appliance in their own vlan |
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21:28
🔗
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nico_32 |
with some serious filtering |
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21:29
🔗
|
nico_32 |
i've seen multifunction printer scanning my whole network for snmp server |
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21:29
🔗
|
Smiley |
nod. |
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21:30
🔗
|
Smiley |
tbh I wish our work network was a WHOLE lot clearer than it is |
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21:30
🔗
|
Smiley |
that said, I also know of worse. |
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21:30
🔗
|
Smiley |
but theres some things I cringe at and can't fix. This makes me sad. |
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21:30
🔗
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nico_32 |
when we moved, i forced vlan & logging in the new infra |
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21:30
🔗
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Smiley |
my boss tried to do vlan when they moved |
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21:30
🔗
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nico_32 |
otherwise, it would be a big l2 |
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21:30
🔗
|
Smiley |
however he never got it working |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
and everything where I am is *now* with the whole "we can add that later" |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
from the usernames and passwords stored in plain text on the db |
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21:31
🔗
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nico_32 |
aka never |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
to the default passwords on drac cards |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
nico_32: when i started, after about 2 months I went bonkers in a tech meeting |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
It was appently quite a sight |
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21:31
🔗
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nico_32 |
been there, done that |
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21:31
🔗
|
Smiley |
I basically flamed all the devs for their terrible actions. I pointed out as an outsider I could completely bring down the whole business quite easily |
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21:32
🔗
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Smiley |
the CTO was very impressed.... so much infact I got a double pay rise when that time came |
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21:32
🔗
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Smiley |
I forced them all onto SSH keys. |
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21:32
🔗
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Smiley |
One day maybe we'll get root logins disabled completely, but at least it's 16 random chara passwords |
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21:32
🔗
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nico_32 |
and they put password-less private key on a nfs v2 fileserver ? |
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21:32
🔗
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Smiley |
Also a account with access to everything, and a password simular to "password". |
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21:33
🔗
|
Smiley |
nico_32: Not found anyone doing that yet |
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21:33
🔗
|
Smiley |
Actually, I know one guy will of, but I give up with him |
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21:33
🔗
|
Smiley |
he thinks he "knwos IT" as he's meant to be joining the IT team because he currently does telecoms |
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21:33
🔗
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nico_32 |
i try to force SSO everywhere |
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21:33
🔗
|
Smiley |
however I've watched him trying to fix things and wanted to cry. |
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21:33
🔗
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Trancer |
omf_: it helps a bit when you sell a lot of random crap.. "oh you viewed coffee beans just before you bought this espresso machine.. let's suggest you some of the beans you looked at it before for a combi deal" |
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21:33
🔗
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Trancer |
but yeah - generally not worth it that much |
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21:33
🔗
|
Smiley |
I'd love to have full SSO, but .... alas I'm not a programmer in any way and everyhting else seemed broken in one way or another. |
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21:33
🔗
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nico_32 |
i lost with the legacy ERP |
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21:34
🔗
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omf_ |
I wouldn't classify that so much as real time analytics. For example amazon does this built on months of viewing history |
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21:34
🔗
|
Smiley |
Our finance team are currently stuck on XP due to the need for a specific bit of software |
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21:34
🔗
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nico_32 |
"no, i will not enable ssh root login, use your **** AD-account and sudo :" |
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21:34
🔗
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Smiley |
I'm getting rather bored of waiting for them to finish updating and thinking I might try getting them a load of XP vm's which I can hide etc./ |
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21:34
🔗
|
Trancer |
right |
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21:34
🔗
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omf_ |
But slams new things in there right as the page loads |
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21:34
🔗
|
Trancer |
its only good when you can influence the decision on the spot based on new things happening.. but that is hardly ever the case |
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21:35
🔗
|
Smiley |
nico_32: biggest issue is I don't have enough experience to know how to setup these beautiful things. |
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21:35
🔗
|
Smiley |
and they need it *now* remember? ;) |
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21:35
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|
omf_ |
Also Trancer I would not count the existing real time analytics we already had |
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21:35
🔗
|
omf_ |
RAM usage, io usage, process monitoring, disk space |
|
21:36
🔗
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nico_32 |
Smiley: my current task is to change the legacy AD recovery password |
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21:36
🔗
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omf_ |
all that stuff we had before this "real time analytics" garbage. When I hear that term I think of marketing just like "Big Data" |
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21:36
🔗
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Smiley |
So we are talking windows setup nico_32 ? |
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21:36
🔗
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nico_32 |
someone in the support team give it to a contractor ... |
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21:36
🔗
|
Smiley |
D: |
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21:36
🔗
|
nico_32 |
Smiley: windows + *nix shop |
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21:36
🔗
|
omf_ |
lol |
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21:36
🔗
|
Smiley |
ah, we are nix + windows :D |
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21:37
🔗
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nico_32 |
i introduced fetchmail when they wanted to use popbeamer |
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21:37
🔗
|
Smiley |
wtf is popbeamer? |
|
21:37
🔗
|
nico_32 |
converted 90% of the team |
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21:37
🔗
|
* |
Smiley looks |
|
21:37
🔗
|
Smiley |
well everyone loves ssh keys now ;) |
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21:37
🔗
|
Smiley |
"I can use my OWN password?" |
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21:37
🔗
|
nico_32 |
latest version of openssh is fun |
|
21:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
y/ |
|
21:38
🔗
|
nico_32 |
SSO for public key :) |
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21:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
eh? |
|
21:38
🔗
|
Trancer |
omf_: we do tonsss of big data |
|
21:38
🔗
|
Trancer |
omf_: on our few million records :P |
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21:38
🔗
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nico_32 |
and revocation list |
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21:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
rev list doesn't make sense :/ |
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21:38
🔗
|
Smiley |
you just remove from auth keys? |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
or am i missing something here? |
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21:39
🔗
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nico_32 |
you can always miss a server |
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21:39
🔗
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Smiley |
no i can't |
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21:39
🔗
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omf_ |
I cannot find a good way to explain what big data is without sounding like a marketing drone |
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21:39
🔗
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nico_32 |
ha ? |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
https://sites.google.com/site/jeromeboismartel/code-s-corner/ssh-key-management-with-skimp |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
see this? |
|
21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
:D |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
delete key from database |
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21:39
🔗
|
Trancer |
omf_: I wrote some decision network for real time (has to be, it is in survey optimization so based on previous answers) that uses a neural net to decide certainty about an outcome.. when certain it routes you further/onwards |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
update all servers |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
watch as it's removed |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
giggle wildly |
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21:39
🔗
|
Smiley |
watch as boss goes :O |
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21:40
🔗
|
Smiley |
however yeah I see what you mean nico_32 |
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21:40
🔗
|
Trancer |
omf_: I like the VVV once, volume, variety, velocity (the velocity is marketing garbage though) |
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21:40
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Smiley |
so the revoke list is stored centerally? |
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21:40
🔗
|
Smiley |
otherwise the same issue happens |
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21:40
🔗
|
Smiley |
you forget to push the revoke list to one server... |
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21:41
🔗
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nico_32 |
not yet |
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21:41
🔗
|
nico_32 |
will probably come next version |
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21:41
🔗
|
Smiley |
hmmm |
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21:41
🔗
|
Smiley |
well then at work that'll likely update in 3 years then (damn centos and their slow updates). |
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21:42
🔗
|
Smiley |
btw nico_32 any good at coding/figuring out how to grab sites? |
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21:43
🔗
|
Smiley |
i want to grab thq forums |
|
21:43
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nico_32 |
not really my area |
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21:43
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|
Smiley |
fair enuf, mer neither :LD |
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21:44
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nico_32 |
http://wwe.thq.com/go/thread/view/category_id/thread_id/ |
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21:45
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Smiley |
yup |
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21:45
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|
Smiley |
tried a few things |
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21:45
🔗
|
Smiley |
always just got a few pages and then it dies |
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21:45
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Smiley |
need someone whos good ;) |
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21:45
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nico_32 |
look like it redirect to http://www.thq.com/tools/goodkeymaster.one?url= |
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21:46
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nico_32 |
Set-Cookie: core_u=b6dc65c58f5e14683e926204b033930e; expires=Tue, 19-Jan-2038 03:14:07 GMT; path=/; domain=.thq.com |
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21:46
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nico_32 |
look like a time token |
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21:47
🔗
|
Smiley |
nod |
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21:47
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nico_32 |
try to send something a cookie with core_pending=yes and follow the redirect |
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21:47
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Smiley |
#ur already better htan me :P |
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21:47
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|
Smiley |
I haven o idea how :D |
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21:47
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|
Smiley |
I'm newb at htis |
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21:47
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nico_32 |
what are you using ? |
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21:47
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|
Smiley |
and I'm getting drunk |
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21:47
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|
Smiley |
wget-warc |
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21:47
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nico_32 |
wgey -r ? |
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21:47
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|
Smiley |
hmmm, it was longer than that ;D |
|
21:48
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nico_32 |
don't know lua |
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21:48
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nico_32 |
but it look like you need sometime to restart a core_pending=yes request to http://www.thq.com/tools/goodkeymaster.one |
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21:48
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Smiley |
wget -m -v -np -p --warc-file=saintsrow_forums_19032013 --load-cookies=./cookies.txt http://saintsrow.com/community/forum |
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21:50
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nico_32 |
yeah look like it a sso |
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21:51
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nico_32 |
no cookie =302=> http://www.thq.com/tools/goodkeymaster.one with core_pending=yes |
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21:51
🔗
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nico_32 |
then 4 cookie that =302=> http://community.saintsrow.com/tools/keyslave.one |
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21:52
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nico_32 |
which validate the nonce and set them for the current domain name |
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21:52
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nico_32 |
and finally =302=> the original page |
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21:53
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nico_32 |
don't really know how to tell wget to periodicaly update the cookie |
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21:53
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nico_32 |
by forcing a core_pending=yes request |
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21:53
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|
Smiley |
I think it will automatically |
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21:53
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|
Smiley |
otherwise you pass somethi9ng like --no-cookies |
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21:54
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|
Smiley |
I maybe wrong. |
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21:54
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nico_32 |
no cookie => stop on http://community.saintsrow.com/tools/keyslave.one |
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21:57
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Smiley |
D: |
|
22:01
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nico_32 |
i program badly in php |
|
22:01
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|
nico_32 |
not really a code cli language |
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22:01
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nico_32 |
s/code// |
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22:36
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nico_32 |
http://www.online.net/fr/serveur-dedie/dedibox-extremesp ==> if you don't speak french: dell r910 dedicated server with 4*10 CPU cores, 1TB ram, 8x*900 Go SAS |
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22:38
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|
Smiley |
xDF |
|
22:39
🔗
|
BlueMax |
Wow |
|
22:39
🔗
|
BlueMax |
2000 euro a month |
|
22:39
🔗
|
BlueMax |
That's nutty |
|
22:39
🔗
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nico_32 |
but Proxad have a s*** peering policy |
|
22:39
🔗
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Smiley |
:OOO |
|
22:39
🔗
|
BlueMax |
they have a shit peering policy |
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22:39
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nico_32 |
so internet connectivity (including french destination) |
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22:39
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Smiley |
That server would cost what, £32k? |
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22:40
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nico_32 |
is shit |
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22:40
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nico_32 |
numericable => proxad: boucing across london |
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22:40
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nico_32 |
every other french ISP: IX in paris in the worst case |
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22:41
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nico_32 |
some peer at lyonix |
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22:41
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nico_32 |
they have cogent & tata as transit |
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22:41
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nico_32 |
they don't want to upgrade the links |
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22:41
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nico_32 |
so hi congestion |
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22:42
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nico_32 |
interesting: a /25 is provided |
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22:42
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Smiley |
lol |
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22:43
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nico_32 |
in france, every university have multiple /16 |
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22:44
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nico_32 |
because the ripe is now checking allocation |
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22:44
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nico_32 |
they are moving every system in the dmz :D |
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22:47
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Smiley |
¬_¬ |
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22:48
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Smiley |
so ingore the fact someone already nmaped the entire segment? XD |
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22:48
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nico_32 |
they will probably tell the ripe that they did have a local issue |
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22:49
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nico_32 |
it will probably will be true |
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22:49
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nico_32 still got mail from the internal sysadmin mailing list |
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22:50
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nico_32 |
"the old extreme switch that linked sport department to the rest of the campus failed" |
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22:51
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nico_32 |
10 /24 in the dark |
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22:52
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nico_32 |
"fiber cut, what is the ETA on the microwave backup ??" |
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22:52
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nico_32 is happy he left before the whole merging |
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22:58
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Smiley |
nico_32: hahah like my work, but that is on a far larger scale |
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22:59
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Smiley |
ours is "yeah, you know that raid array, we've been warning you about for 2 years? the one which went out of manufacturing 9 years ago and no one stocked parts for the last 7 years? The one we have no spare parts for and you've told us you'll move off it presently?" "..." "It failed". |
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23:00
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nico_32 |
"and the consumer-grade NAS that we used for the backup ? it silently corrupted the data" |
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23:01
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nico_32 |
:) |
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23:02
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Smiley |
nico_32: back up? |
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23:02
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Smiley |
lolwhat? |
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23:02
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omf_ |
Yeah no one does backups |
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23:02
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Smiley |
if this wasn't one of the ONLY win boxes in our setup |
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23:03
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omf_ |
shit lives forever on the butts |
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23:03
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omf_ |
this is the FUTURE |
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23:03
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Smiley |
because the billing guys are too stupid/stubond to do anything else, maybe the IT guys (me, the others) could of saved it |
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23:03
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Smiley |
but they are like "don't touch it, it's ours" |
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23:03
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Smiley |
so we left them to it |
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23:03
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Smiley |
It cost £32kish to save the data. |
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23:03
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nico_32 |
want to know the latest wtf here ? |
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23:03
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Smiley |
Want to hear the REALLY funny part? |
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23:04
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nico_32 |
head of bean counter told us that one of them deleted her directory |
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23:04
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omf_ |
Smiley, why didn't they just virtualize the windows into vmware/kvm/xen/etc ... and then it could have snapshot backups |
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23:04
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nico_32 |
we check the backup, no such directory found |
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23:05
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nico_32 |
she told us we don't know our job and kick a bug fuss |
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23:05
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Smiley |
omf_: :O downtime? |
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23:05
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omf_ |
We could do that stuff in 2004, it is really nothing new but I understand |
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23:05
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Smiley |
omf_: and we have tried to do so |
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23:05
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omf_ |
with vmware you can do it with no downtime |
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23:05
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Smiley |
it's so old |
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23:05
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nico_32 |
we check with the bean counter and in fact, this directory was never on this server |
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23:05
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omf_ |
but you have to buy a few programs |
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23:05
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Smiley |
it won't import into VMware |
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23:05
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Smiley |
omf_: ;) |
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23:05
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Smiley |
it's so old |
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23:05
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Smiley |
so old, VMware borks on it |
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23:05
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Smiley |
we've tried |
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23:05
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Smiley |
they have new servers |
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23:05
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omf_ |
What version of windows is it? |
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23:05
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Smiley |
with all the software installed, virtualised |
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23:05
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Smiley |
they "have" moved all the data over |
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23:06
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Smiley |
the servers go outta warranty this year |
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23:06
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Smiley |
3 years..... they haven't even been booted up. |
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23:06
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Smiley |
.... instead they continue to run on the old stuff. |
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23:06
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nico_32 |
p2v of windows 2003 fail more often than win2k8 |
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23:06
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Smiley |
And the FUNNY part? |
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23:06
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omf_ |
hit me |
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23:06
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Smiley |
THERE IS STILL ONE OF THOSE ARRAYS. |
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23:06
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nico_32 |
ha ha ha |
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23:06
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Smiley |
the "other" one is still running (it was clsutered). |
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23:06
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Smiley |
It failed, 2 years ago |
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23:06
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Smiley |
so Thats.... 11 years outta manufacture. |
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23:06
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omf_ |
you mean clusterfucked right? |
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23:06
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Smiley |
I actually think the guy will LOOSE his job when it fails |
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23:07
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Smiley |
And I will stand there, laugh and go "I warned you." |
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23:07
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Smiley |
as I did last time too. |
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23:07
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Smiley |
This is why I love this company, I can say this stuff. |
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23:08
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omf_ |
Make sure you did it in email a few times |
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23:08
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nico_32 |
i believe i worked for your company 2 year ago ... |
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23:08
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nico_32 |
omf_: no, paper works |
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23:08
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nico_32 |
don't hesitate to insert copy of the warning on all meeting notes |
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23:08
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omf_ |
yes |
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23:10
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Smiley |
nico_32: hahaha yes |
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23:10
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Smiley |
it'd work if the guys turned up for meetings |
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23:11
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Smiley |
the prtoblem is this guy is old school |
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23:11
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Smiley |
and they won't get rid of him |
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23:11
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Smiley |
but if he costs them another £32k I think they might |
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23:11
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Smiley |
especially when I point out tto the New CTO that this has been dragged out for 11 years |
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23:11
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Smiley |
and the servers they had especially brought for them haven't been used either. |
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23:12
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omf_ |
Always frame it as how much money they wasted |
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23:12
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omf_ |
That is how you get their attention |
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23:13
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Smiley |
am i a bastard? naah, I'm pissed off with how bad this is |
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23:13
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Smiley |
yup |
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23:13
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Smiley |
my next shouting fest will be |
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23:13
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Smiley |
£32K..... £32 FUCKING K. |
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23:13
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omf_ |
Just remember you owe the company nothing and no one there is loyal. |
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23:13
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Smiley |
yeah |
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23:13
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Smiley |
i work hard, play hard |
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23:14
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Smiley |
fuck everyone |
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23:14
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Smiley |
burn the world |
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23:14
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omf_ |
Business loyalty ended decades ago. |
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23:14
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Smiley |
the buisness is really nice suppisingly |
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23:14
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Smiley |
some of the staff tho |
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23:14
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nico_32 |
including japan |
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23:14
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* |
Smiley facedesks |
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23:14
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nico_32 |
good bye loyalty, welcome CYO |
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23:14
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nico_32 |
s/O/A/ |
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23:15
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omf_ |
I prefer the opposite of cya, fuck your co-workers |
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23:15
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omf_ |
Keep ammo around to lob if necessary |
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23:15
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nico_32 |
eeeeev |
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23:29
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Smiley |
- Downloaded 5000 URLs, found 4522 usernames |
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23:35
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omf_ |
Why do beginning programmers always think they can do better rewriting the same programs over and over again |
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23:35
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omf_ |
And I am not talking about the common programs people write to learn programming or a new language |
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23:36
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omf_ |
Like todo apps, editors, html parsers |
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23:36
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omf_ |
A new one I am seeing constantly is getting information out of imdb |
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23:40
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Smiley |
oh thats another thing they do ¬_¬ |
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23:40
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Smiley |
they are currently got 2 programmers building a monitoring program |
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23:40
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Smiley |
theres nothing they are planning we can't already do with our existing one |
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23:40
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omf_ |
oh fuck |
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23:41
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Smiley |
but still they forge ahead |
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23:41
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omf_ |
another monitoring program |
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23:41
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* |
Smiley dies |
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23:41
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nico_32 |
lol |
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23:41
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Smiley |
omf_: oh this will be internal only |
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23:41
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nico_32 |
and ? |
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23:41
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nico_32 |
what is their reason ? |
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23:41
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Smiley |
but I just face palm. |
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23:41
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Smiley |
nico_32: because nagios isn't nice enough for customers. |
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23:41
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nico_32 |
strange api ? nih ? |
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23:41
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Smiley |
.... |
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23:41
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Smiley |
the funny thing is, our customers don't give a fuck |
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23:41
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Smiley |
they want to see "you are making $$$/hr" |
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23:41
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Smiley |
thats it |
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23:41
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omf_ |
You should introduce them to 'Not Invented Here' and 'Re-inventing the wheel' concepts |
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23:42
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Smiley |
they don't give a fuck if teh Aus servers are having packet loss |
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23:42
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Smiley |
I already KNOW the aus servers are having packet loss... |
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23:42
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Smiley |
so I dcunno |
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23:42
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Smiley |
omf_: I did ask, but they never come to IT and go "we want to do this, but maybe you already know how?" |
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23:42
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Smiley |
They write C programs to do stuff I can do in bash |
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23:42
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* |
Smiley laughs |
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23:42
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nico_32 |
Smiley: and they leak memory |
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23:43
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Smiley |
:) |
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23:43
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nico_32 |
using o(n^n) algo |
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23:43
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nico_32 |
or o(n!)* |
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23:43
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nico_32 |
:) |
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23:43
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omf_ |
If I need to do anything more than a loop in bash I jump up to a scripting language |
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23:43
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Smiley |
their head dev insists that each "project" or arm of the company is on its own seperate hardware stack |
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23:43
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Smiley |
yet can never explain to me why this is required. |
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23:45
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Smiley |
then theres the time they put 1,000,000+ .wav's in a single directory |
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23:46
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omf_ |
on a windows filesystem? |
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23:46
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Smiley |
wait, that sounds like it only happened once |
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23:46
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Smiley |
The first time, yes, ntfs |
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23:46
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Smiley |
second time, ext3 |
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23:46
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omf_ |
rofl |
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23:46
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Smiley |
nither likes it very much |
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23:46
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nico_32 |
yes |
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23:47
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nico_32 |
1M files ==> sharding |
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23:47
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Smiley |
there is a 2 year old mantis ticket from me saying "guys, you remmeber how on ntfs you put all the files in a single dir...? well you've done it again, plz stop before it starts breaking" |
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23:47
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Smiley |
then a few weeks ago |
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23:47
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Smiley |
Oh look, it's started breaking |
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23:47
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Smiley |
:D |
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23:47
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Smiley |
doing ls would lock up the box |
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23:47
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nico_32 |
ha ha ha |
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23:47
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* |
Smiley facepalms |