#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-29,Mon

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04:35 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r godane: is sane-find-scanner setuid where scanimage is not?
04:44 ๐Ÿ”— godane what does that mean?
04:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r godane: tell me what happens when you do sudo scanimage -L
04:48 ๐Ÿ”— godane i ran scanimage -L as root before
04:49 ๐Ÿ”— godane i get nothing
04:53 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r oh, wat
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm back
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— godane wifi just drops some times
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— * winr4r salutes
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— godane winr4r: any idea with the scanner?
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r godane: see if sane-find-scanner is setuid, i.e. has the bit set that forces it to run as the owner of the executable
05:02 ๐Ÿ”— godane -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 98168 Jun 11 21:31 sane-find-scanner
05:02 ๐Ÿ”— godane thats what i get with ls -l scan-find-scanner
05:05 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r okay, so it's not
05:06 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r there couldn't be some versioning conflict here? i.e. scanimage being from a different version of scane than sane-find-scanner?
05:06 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r scane = sane
05:06 ๐Ÿ”— godane i don't think so
05:06 ๐Ÿ”— godane only cause i installed slackware
05:07 ๐Ÿ”— godane so there is only 1 version that i have installed
05:07 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r hm :/
06:14 ๐Ÿ”— godane i eat this when i go out with my brother: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Biscuits-and-gravy.jpg
06:16 ๐Ÿ”— godane my brothers breakfest last week: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069260_4415653129490_1109876184_n.jpg
06:17 ๐Ÿ”— godane and me eating biscuits and gravy: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311672_4428046399314_2068261396_n.jpg
06:24 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r aw it's godane
06:31 ๐Ÿ”— godane Labrats.tv: Episode 11.1 - Macworld Expo 2006 Day 1: https://archive.org/details/labrats-11.1-480
06:31 ๐Ÿ”— godane i got macworld expo 2006 videos
07:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm hoping search on archive.org gets updated
07:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane its starting to bother me
07:22 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r as in their index?
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— godane yes
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— godane the search index has not updated since this morning i think
07:28 ๐Ÿ”— godane at least for my stuff
07:29 ๐Ÿ”— godane now it maybe more then my stuff
07:30 ๐Ÿ”— godane the opensource_movies collection has not had search index updated in at least 22 hours
07:30 ๐Ÿ”— godane and i have the last file add to the search index it looks like
07:36 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r ah :<
08:09 ๐Ÿ”— godane Labrats.tv: Episode 104.1: CES 2008 Day 1: https://archive.org/details/labrats-104a-480
08:09 ๐Ÿ”— godane i figure i will start posting links here of my uploads
08:09 ๐Ÿ”— godane since you will not find them until the search index is updated
08:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ (._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.)
08:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ They see me rollin'
08:45 ๐Ÿ”— * Aranje rolls omf_ down a hill
08:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ (รฃย†ย†รขย–ยƒรฃย†ย†)
08:47 ๐Ÿ”— godane so i mirror the main site of pspminis.com
08:47 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm now mirroring the forums
08:48 ๐Ÿ”— godane i will most likely have to sed thur it to get the images
09:23 ๐Ÿ”— * BlueMax slaps godane sober
09:23 ๐Ÿ”— godane i don't drink
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r GODANE ABSORBS MOISTURE FROM THE ATMOSPHERE THROUGH A POROUS MEMBRANE INSTEAD
09:24 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r morning kids
09:26 ๐Ÿ”— * BlueMax doesn't pay for winr4r
09:26 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm
09:26 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG how to change OFF gpt on a drive?
09:27 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ you have to use a program to change the partition table type to ms-dos or something else
09:27 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ how big is the disk you are working with?
09:27 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG actually, shouldn't matter, appently win7 can use it fine
09:28 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ really? Is that an update to win7 since it was released?
09:29 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Dunno but ms site said gpt is fine :/
09:29 ๐Ÿ”— * SmileyG isn't booting from it
09:29 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hell, it said vista is fine :D
09:31 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ so once XP dies we can use gpt everywhere?
09:32 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG :D
09:35 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r did it die yet?
09:35 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Support for Windows XP is ending on April 8, 2014
09:35 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r that's a pretty good run
09:36 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and it would have been killed 5+ years ago if MS didn't just crank out shit products
09:37 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r yeah, there's been some weapons-grade incompetence in the last decade
09:37 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r vista, 8
09:37 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG me
09:37 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG or is that over 10 years now?
09:37 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r 30 i think man
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I did my reading, I read all the articles about the vista codebase changes where the dude in charge and had to change around the entire build process because it was so broken
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r but no you're lovely
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r OH NEVER MIND, MISREAD "ME"
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ things like that make sense but damn did MS leave that shit to the last second
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG winr4r: 29 :P
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r winme was like 1999 or 2000 i think
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Oh yeah, ME, meliumuenehnuum.
09:38 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r aka WINDOWS 98, PRETENDING TO BE NT EDITION
09:39 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Windows XP took something like 2 weeks to build a new release version, after all the rework on vista they could build a full new edition in under a day
09:39 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ That is a mountain of technical debt paid
09:40 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and that is MS's core problem all the devs there say there is too much outstanding technical debt
09:40 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ that is why openoffice got forked into libreoffice, Oracle stopped the project and more technical debt piled up
09:40 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r they also think they still have the market clout to railroad people down paths they do not want to go
09:41 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ yes winr4r yes
09:41 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r see also: 8, vista
09:41 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r they don't, because people are as likely to say "fuck it, i'm getting an ipad" as they are to say "well, i'll just choke on it for you then"
09:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ yeah most people don't need desktops, they need internet browsing screens
09:43 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r microsoft is no longer the safe bet, that's the real deal
09:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ yeah
09:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Photoshop is going online only
09:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ avid is still windows/mac only
09:44 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ MS office
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r i thought that was online activation to keep it working, not online-as-such
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ most of the other shit I can think of is already cross platform like Maya or autodesk
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ next version
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ let me snag you the article
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r oh okay
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r go for it
09:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/adobe_kills_creative_suite_for_cloud/
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r hm.
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ every site has coverage of the annoucement
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ it is simpler for them to do that then retool their shit to run on Linux
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r i missed it
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and much fucking harder lock in
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG well that headline is bad
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r but do you not see more than a little "well, we'll do whatever makes us the most money and our customers will suck that shit up" about *that*, too?
09:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ totally
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r you know, exactly what MS did, and got away with, for a time
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG until they tried it with the xbox ONE XD
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG jeez talk about backlash
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r because holy god if adobe suicides i will not be especially sad
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I would be sad for all the fonts and things I can no longer get at
09:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ typekit anyone
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ adobe is trying to be online only now
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ which means it is the perfect time for open source image editing to step up its game
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_: yes, it is
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ gimp needs 32bit color, krita and gimp are too slow and neither support large image operations
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ which is why people still use photoshop, cinema4d and the like
09:48 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r that and print separation or whatever it's called
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ we have that now with plugins
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ color correction and space support
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r as for GIMP, they can get as good as photoshop is right now, and *nobody will ever use it in a corporate environment*
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG glad I wasn't the only person thinking this
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ kirta and blender both come with it built in
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— godane looks archive.org is giving me problems again
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r it's either a BDSM role or a derogatory slang term for "cripple"
09:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ gegl the new core of gimp is light years ahead but someone else should build the gui on top of it
09:50 ๐Ÿ”— godane uploaded a file and there is no history of existing
09:50 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ winr4r, you a programmer?
09:50 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_: yes
09:50 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r of sorts
09:50 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r mostly web though
10:21 ๐Ÿ”— godane i guess i can't upload
10:22 ๐Ÿ”— godane keep getting 500 errror
10:45 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 To tempt them, Adobe is offering "hundreds" of improvement to its Creative Cloud applications, with more introduced on a weekly basis by the company beginning June 17.
10:46 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 reading between the lines, that basically says "we're going to draw out the release of features, so that if you want all the cool stuff, you'll need to have a subscription for an extended period of time"
10:46 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 "We believe that Creative Cloud will have a larger impact on the creative world than anything else we've done over the past three decades," Adobe said in a letter to customers.
10:46 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol, yes, justt not a positive kind of impact...
10:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I 100% agree
10:49 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r yes, meteors do too
11:00 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT
11:00 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ someone call Busta Rhymes :D
12:31 ๐Ÿ”— Cameron_D came across some stuff today that someone did based off the dataset collected while archiving Friendster http://snap.stanford.edu/data/com-Friendster.html
12:32 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ interesting
12:48 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG archive it!
12:50 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ "The Web Archive Project" what the fuck is that? It should say Archive Team
12:54 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I read Archie... God, sometimes I reflect too much on gopher
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Archive Gopher and Wais
13:08 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ shit
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Archie Gopher and Wais
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I bet the 90s babies don't know what those are
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG I've heard of Gopher...
13:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but I'm 1984 :/
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 I am 1979, yet I missed those times of the internet yet right now addicted to retro computing too
13:10 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 worst of it, I run my own gopher too :)
13:11 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 and thanks to floodgap there is a running Veronica server available in gopherspace too
13:57 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r facebook-to-gopher gateway do eeet
14:00 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS omf_: I AM HIGHLY OFFENDED
14:01 ๐Ÿ”— norbert79 winr4r: That would be madness :)
14:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 well, this is worrying
14:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://iomfats.org/robots.txt
14:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :|
14:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 really not happy about this
14:13 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin you know what you must do
14:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 yup, mirror time
14:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I don't expect it to go away any time soon
14:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 but fuck
14:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 there's a LOT of unique and important stuff on that site
15:25 ๐Ÿ”— sep332 "Maybe it's time brands start doubling down on content they actually own, rather than putting all their money in platforms they can't control."
15:25 ๐Ÿ”— sep332 http://blog.hubspot.com/tumblr-erases-popular-blogger-copyright-infringement-blogging-fea
15:31 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r quite
15:40 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23452097
15:42 ๐Ÿ”— sep332 "protect our children and their innocence". <- direct quote from the PM
16:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://softwareandsilicon.com/
16:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I recommend anyone here read this
18:20 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I still wish there were public libraries for adults. The kids are being extra loud today and all the study and conference rooms were booked before I got here :/
18:20 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG sigh
18:20 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG which curl
18:21 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I guess the word quiet is no longer synonymous with all public libraries
18:21 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Dude brought in a group of 30 six year olds
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Maybe I should enroll in a college class so I can use college libraries again
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Open 24/7 and no one without a student ID can get in so that means at least a minimum age of 18
18:27 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 On the plus side of today the local bike shop had just the right part in stock to fix my bicycle. No waiting on ebay \o/
18:27 ๐Ÿ”— underscor omf_2: well, 18+ or intelligent enough to graduate early :D
18:27 ๐Ÿ”— underscor (which presumably means they respect libraries)
18:28 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 yeah the college library was always quiet and no one was needed to enforce it
18:29 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I needed a 6 speed freewheel since my old bike cannot fit a newer 8-10 speed
18:31 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 how are things going for you underscor?
18:35 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_2: 7 speed? do those still exist?
18:35 ๐Ÿ”— underscor busy :(
18:36 ๐Ÿ”— underscor excited for defcon this weekend
18:36 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and visiting boyfriend next weekend
18:36 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 winr4r, when freehub replaced freewheel in the 80s everything moved from 6-7 speed up to the 8-10 speed range we have now
18:37 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 The bike I am refering to is a 1983 fuji racing bicycle
18:37 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I had to get a used freewheel
18:37 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 but there is now a company that makes new ones for their recumbant and electronic bicycles
18:38 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 they only go down to 7 speed not 6
18:38 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_2: oh, road racers
18:39 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 yeah freewheel vs freehub is one of the few fully not compatible improvements to bicycles
18:39 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r in MTBs we were 6 then 7 then 8 and 9 and whatever the hell they have now and it was a quite smooth transition
18:39 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 80s mtbs were freewheel first as well
18:40 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 chains, rims, break systems, shifters, lights, seats and the like are all still interchangable to old bikes but not the gears
18:41 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I slapped a 2013 bottom bracket into a 30 year old bicycle and it just worked. :D
18:41 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 my other bicycle is a mountain bike and much newer
18:41 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I have no part problems with it
18:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 winr4r, I saw some bikes have an 11 speed now o_0
18:43 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_2: christ
18:44 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r when i restore mine (1995 diamond back frame, 1995 rock shox mag 21s, mongrel everything else) i'm tempted to see if i can go back to 7-speed for added awesome
18:45 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r i know i did actually have it 7-speed until about 1999, when you couldn't get XT 7 speed stuff at all
18:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Here is a good brand one http://www.amazon.com/SunRace-CSM63-7-Speed-Bicycle-Cassette/dp/B002G340LE
18:46 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 they are still actively made by a few companies
18:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_2: shifters, though (and nope grip shifts won't do)
18:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 fuck grip shifters
18:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r unless i can find a pair of XT thumbies at a sane price
18:47 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin in my experience most college libraries are open to the public
18:47 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r (goddamn, those were hardcore)
18:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 in theory grip shifters sound great, in practice they break all the time
18:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 DFJustin, during the day I can just walk in
18:48 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 but at night not so much
18:48 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin ah
18:48 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r omf_2: all the ones i ever used got jammed up real easily when stuff got muddy
18:49 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r weird, because rapidfire-style shifters were much much more complex internally
18:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 also they have no public internet access, wifi is tied to a student account so I cannot get jstor
18:51 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin depends on the school, VIU wifi is students only, UBC has public wifi but I suspect it doesn't have journal access (I didn't try)
18:54 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 true
18:54 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin also the ubc public wifi blocks ssh which really crimped my style
18:55 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 eew
18:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 wow laptop hard drives are cheap
19:04 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 dell still only appears to have 1 linux laptop
19:04 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 and I have heard not good things about system76
19:04 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 So who is the go to for a Linux laptop
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm back
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r i think lenovo is the default for stuff that works with linux
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— godane and i bought gifts for you guys
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r godane: BUTTON YOUR PANTS UP WE WON'T FALL FOR THIS TRICK AGAIN
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— godane i have 2 scanned 1996 pc novice for you guys
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r oh! :D
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— winr4r awesome!
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 I am using an old Lenovo right now
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— godane one of them even talks about bbs
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 did you get your scanner working
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— godane only on windows
19:10 ๐Ÿ”— godane thats my main problem
19:11 ๐Ÿ”— godane anyways i also got the boot magazine disks scanned too
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane looks like i can upload more of my stuff again
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane search index is still not updated
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane that really bothers me
19:18 ๐Ÿ”— godane i have never seen it this slow before
19:23 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm
19:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG we are pushing 50Gb warcs in almost constantly
19:24 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 are you checking to make sure they are going? The s3 stat page shows a very high 503 count
19:24 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 major spikes in the past 36 hours
19:24 ๐Ÿ”— * SmileyG glances at underscor
19:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG how do I check D:
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG the upload will just retry, right?
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— godane if this is the case i may not be doing much updating
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— godane don't want to think i upload alot of g4 videos when it really didn't take it
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— godane and just error on me
19:26 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG 2 today, 2 yesterday, 4 the day before
19:26 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yeah they seem to be going up
19:28 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 wow the ac in here is on full blast, I need a sweater :D
19:36 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/07/we-cannot-satisfy-the-demand-for-our-free-ice-cream-so-we-wont-make-any-ice-cream-at-all.html
19:47 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje that's... fucking retarded
19:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Oh I dunno
19:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG I can kind of =see where they are coming from
19:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but they could do some things
19:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG 1. RELEASE ALL TEH SORUCE.
19:49 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG 2. sit back, relax
19:51 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje charging a small fee would be legit
19:51 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje onramp every single person to 1$/mo, paid yearly
19:51 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje instantly, some portion of the 420k people would dump money on them and they could relax a second
19:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor omf_2: SmileyG: we had major infrastructure failures this weekend
19:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor power loss, db corruption, &c
19:57 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Stuff is still getting nurtured back to health
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Did backup generators not kick in?
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor We don't have generators at 300f
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor We have UPS stuff
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG 300f o:O:
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 300 funston
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor sorry, the place where ia6* lives
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 So if the power goes out you have to scramble to shutdown stuff?
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— Jonimus 1.21GW clearly
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG No gennys? ;/
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 Mr. Fusion
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor If the power goes it, everything is supposed to automatically fail over to ia7 and ia8
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor cleanly
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Ooooooooo
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG howe many ia's is there?!
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor The problem is that the UPS died
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— * SmileyG is happy to hear this, I'd only ever seen the church.
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and then line voltage on phase 3 sagged
19:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and caused about half the boxes on the ia60000 rack to safety fail
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Including the DB master, which was in the middle of a binlog thing ot the slaves or something
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— underscor so we had corrupt replicas
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and it happened at 3:04 in the morning
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— underscor So I was the only one awake
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG ouch
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and I don't have (m)any operational buttons.
20:00 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG and ouch again.
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG underscor: case of one phase being extremely loaded?
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG (as we found we have at work some how).
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— underscor All "core" boxes (ia6000, ia6001) have dual PSUs, one to UPS, one to wall
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG You'd think racks would be cabled up 1+2 | 2+3 | 3+1 | 2+3 | 1+2 | 3+1 | ..... etc
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— underscor When the UPS died, it resulted in shifting 8A on two circuits
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but no, ours are completely random
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Ouccccccch
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— underscor onto ~16A
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor on a 20A PDU
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG and the ractifier went "HAHAHAHAHA no."
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor so we assume the shift caused a bit of voltage sag that triggered safeties
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://is.gd/wQX93g
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor See that nice notch? :D
20:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG I see "no data".
20:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG which I found kind of ironic.
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor hmm
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor try http://pasteboard.co/1shHwD5v.png
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG ah yes
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor so anyway
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor it was "fun"
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— underscor basically it was just the exact failure mode that breaks everything and lights it all on fire
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— underscor There are 3 IAs
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 4 if you account our peering points
20:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 300 funston (church), 2512 florida (richmond, CA book warehouse + ia8*) and 950 Charter (ISC warehouse + ia7*)
20:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and we peer with things in 200 Paul, but there's no boxes there
20:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://monitor.us.archive.org/weathermap/weathermap.html
20:13 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje wow, florida to paul is tweeting at capacity :D
20:20 ๐Ÿ”— underscor yeah, it spends pretty much 100% of the time at full capacity
20:21 ๐Ÿ”— underscor We don't really have the money to upgrade it
20:21 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's 80km of no-hop fiber, so we need good optics
20:21 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje aye
20:21 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje that ain't cheap.
20:22 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje probably have to use some doped fiber too, unless you're using physical amps
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor not entirely sure what they use
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor it is actually MPLS from $someprovider
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor because we couldn't get dark from 200 paul to richmond
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje ahh
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 underscor: is that weathermap public?
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor yes, why?
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc looks SUPER SECRET
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 underscor: just asking :P
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 in case I want to share
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor xmc: lol
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor ah, cool
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc hi
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— underscor goddamn, this has to be the most disgusting text file I've ever written
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://p.defau.lt/?r2Y_t9sCPCwEEdDHeyzQ9g
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— * underscor cleans up
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 so, OVH now bans TOR nodes and any other anonymization services
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 apparently
20:36 ๐Ÿ”— ivan` OVH has a similar network map http://weathermap.ovh.net/
20:36 ๐Ÿ”— ivan` OVH banning IRC bouncers is pretty dumb
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_2 OVH just appears to be banning things used by smart clients so they can just keep the dumb ones
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— xmc dumb and not bandwidth-hungry ones
21:10 ๐Ÿ”— xmc SketchCow: speaking of librarian stereotypes: http://mrlibrarydude.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/image-public-perception-and-lego-librarians/

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