| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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02:08
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yipdw |
it's too bad https://soundcloud.com/larrymagid/nsa-director-general-keith doesn't have a "Download" button |
|
02:08
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yipdw |
good thing Firebug does |
|
02:09
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yipdw |
I'm also kind of impressed that anyone believes General Alexander; it would cost next to nothing to make a bunch of fake screenshots |
|
02:16
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ivan` |
I use youtube-dl to DL soundcloud things |
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02:18
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mistym |
The Old Reader sure handled their kinda-sorta shutdown badly. |
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02:27
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|
mistym |
Two weeks' notice to users who read their blog, no notice to existing users who are already logged in |
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02:27
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godane |
so looke like i found a interview with founder of formspring |
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02:27
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|
godane |
http://twit.tv/show/netnight-amber-and-leo/192 |
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03:47
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godane |
i may be able to get macbreak from twit |
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03:47
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godane |
IN VIDEO |
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05:16
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wp494 |
attn. all dota buffs here interested in logging the twitch channels (presumed) to be streaming TI3 with a dedicated IRC client: you should get in now before you won't be able to, since there's a bug where the userlist and messages won't appear |
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11:37
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godane |
so torrentbytes.net is down |
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11:37
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|
godane |
i did grab update forumids of the first pages |
|
11:37
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|
godane |
which would have the newer posts of things |
|
11:44
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|
godane |
also dr. kiki science hour is almost complete |
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11:44
🔗
|
godane |
at least the video collection |
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12:58
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|
godane |
i just noticed the labratstv collection: http://archive.org/details/labratstv |
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14:11
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norbert79 |
joepie91: What was the server again where you lured me to? I forgat to save my config for irssi and now I forgat both address and channel name |
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14:36
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|
joepie91 |
norbert79: pft :P |
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14:36
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joepie91 |
irc.cryto.net #crytocc |
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14:37
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norbert79 |
cheers |
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14:37
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|
norbert79 |
need to save that |
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15:13
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|
DFJustin |
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=283127 |
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16:17
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SmileyG |
... |
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16:19
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SmileyG |
norbert79: it's a tarp! |
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18:33
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omf_ |
quick get an axe |
|
19:32
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|
joepie91 |
meh |
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19:32
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|
joepie91 |
preparing my talk for OHM2013 |
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19:32
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|
joepie91 |
it's only like 9 minutes with the current text :/ |
|
19:33
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|
joepie91 |
target time was 15 minutes |
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19:33
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omf_ |
fill the rest with ArchiveTeam |
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19:33
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yipdw |
speak (15/9) times slower |
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19:35
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omf_ |
freestyle rap |
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19:36
🔗
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joepie91 |
omf_: already namedropped ArchiveTeam in it |
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19:36
🔗
|
joepie91 |
:p |
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19:36
🔗
|
joepie91 |
yipdw: I can't speak slower |
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19:36
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omf_ |
Talk about how shitty the Python docs are |
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19:36
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yipdw |
joepie91: run yourself through a speed-shifting filter |
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19:36
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joepie91 |
to speak slower, I would have to put significant concentration into my talking speed, and that takes away so much focus from the actual talk that I'll stumble |
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19:36
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joepie91 |
lol |
|
19:36
🔗
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omf_ |
If my docs talk gets accepted I will have a line in there about that |
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19:37
🔗
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joepie91 |
omf_: :D |
|
19:37
🔗
|
joepie91 |
might do some talks about topics like these at future OHMs |
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19:37
🔗
|
joepie91 |
idk |
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19:37
🔗
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yipdw |
I guess you could also allocate 6 minutes for questions |
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19:38
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omf_ |
fuck questions, do science |
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19:38
🔗
|
omf_ |
demo something |
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19:38
🔗
|
omf_ |
live action |
|
19:39
🔗
|
yipdw |
audience participation: six-minute wall handstands |
|
19:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
yipdw: the 15 minutes is speaking time part |
|
19:40
🔗
|
yipdw |
oh |
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19:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I originally applied for 15 |
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19:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
they assigned me 30 mins |
|
19:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
so I already decided to fill up the other 15 with Q&A |
|
19:41
🔗
|
yipdw |
I see |
|
19:41
🔗
|
omf_ |
what if they have no questions |
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19:41
🔗
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joepie91 |
because wtf 30 mins talking about a case I can't share details about? |
|
19:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
omf_: then it'll be a short event :) |
|
19:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
but honestly |
|
19:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I would doubt that |
|
19:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
there's bound to be -some- people there that know me |
|
19:41
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and want answers to stuff |
|
19:43
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omf_ |
you could pad your talking with a small bit of future speculation |
|
19:43
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|
omf_ |
talk about the news |
|
19:43
🔗
|
omf_ |
it is relevant |
|
19:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
it's already like 30% padding |
|
19:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
:P |
|
19:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
of various kinds |
|
19:44
🔗
|
joepie91 |
sec |
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19:44
🔗
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omf_ |
See I have the opposite problem of you joepie91 I always have way more stuff to talk about than allotted time and I always do an hour long talk |
|
19:45
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|
joepie91 |
heh |
|
19:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I could probably do that for other stuff |
|
19:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
but not for this.. |
|
19:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
also, see PM |
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19:56
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|
xmc |
I don't see anything in PM |
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19:57
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ivan` |
would IA mind getting 400GB of the dead ut-files.com in ~10 7z files? I have no server to host this stuff yet |
|
19:57
🔗
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ivan` |
cc omf_, don't know if he has the drive yet |
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19:59
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|
xmc |
IA would love anything |
|
19:59
🔗
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ivan` |
there are a few people who will grab them and put the individual maps on their mirror servers, at least for the game modes they're interested in |
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19:59
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omf_ |
I will drive down there and check tonight ivan` |
|
19:59
🔗
|
ivan` |
thanks |
|
20:04
🔗
|
DFJustin |
.zip would be better than .7z because then you can use their archive browser |
|
20:11
🔗
|
winr4r |
.tar.gz would be even better because it compresses better than zip |
|
20:11
🔗
|
winr4r |
i think |
|
20:11
🔗
|
winr4r |
and works in the browser |
|
20:11
🔗
|
winr4r |
but |
|
20:11
🔗
|
winr4r |
we're not going to make you recompress ;D |
|
20:12
🔗
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omf_ |
I thought IA could only see .tar not .tar.gz or tar.bz2 |
|
20:12
🔗
|
omf_ |
for the archive view option |
|
20:12
🔗
|
winr4r |
pretty sure it can see within tar.gz |
|
20:12
🔗
|
winr4r |
i might be wrong |
|
20:13
🔗
|
winr4r |
or maybe that was just .tar, you might be right :< |
|
20:15
🔗
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ivan` |
the files in the .7z are not compressible |
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20:15
🔗
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SmileyG |
Hiiii :D |
|
20:15
🔗
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winr4r |
SmileyG: OH HI |
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20:16
🔗
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ivan` |
you also need case-preservation to get the right filenames |
|
20:16
🔗
|
SmileyG |
uhoh |
|
20:20
🔗
|
winr4r |
it's just sketch and underscor that are archive.org admins here right |
|
20:21
🔗
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DFJustin |
yes |
|
20:21
🔗
|
winr4r |
okay just checking |
|
20:21
🔗
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winr4r |
i asked underscor and he was afk, and sketch already has plenty of shit to do |
|
20:21
🔗
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DFJustin |
.zip, .iso, .cdr, and .tar are browsable |
|
20:21
🔗
|
DFJustin |
.tar.gz is not |
|
20:23
🔗
|
DFJustin |
godane and I have collection admin status on some of the collections but not global admin |
|
20:23
🔗
|
winr4r |
DFJustin: thanks for the correction |
|
20:23
🔗
|
winr4r |
DFJustin: can you move stuff into the archive team or another web crawl collection? |
|
20:23
🔗
|
DFJustin |
no |
|
20:23
🔗
|
winr4r |
mmk :) |
|
20:35
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: you there? |
|
20:35
🔗
|
SmileyG |
o/ |
|
20:35
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: do you still have the download of snapjoy? |
|
20:35
🔗
|
SmileyG |
errrr |
|
20:35
🔗
|
SmileyG |
yes randomly :D |
|
20:36
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: did you have anything for michaelsharkey? and would you mind tarring it up and shoving it somewhere? |
|
20:36
🔗
|
winr4r |
context: https://twitter.com/michaelsharkey/status/362324340584349697 |
|
20:37
🔗
|
winr4r |
i know he was a user on the list |
|
20:37
🔗
|
SmileyG |
hahaha |
|
20:37
🔗
|
SmileyG |
if we beat snapjoy. thats just LOLZ |
|
20:38
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: yes |
|
20:38
🔗
|
SmileyG |
just the photos? |
|
20:38
🔗
|
winr4r |
just tar up the whole thing |
|
20:38
🔗
|
winr4r |
whatever we have |
|
20:38
🔗
|
winr4r |
did he have anything public? |
|
20:38
🔗
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SmileyG |
yes got em |
|
20:39
🔗
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joepie91 |
DFJustin: how come tar.gz is not browsable? |
|
20:39
🔗
|
winr4r |
sweet |
|
20:39
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: as i understand it, you'd have to decompress the WHOLE tar.gz |
|
20:39
🔗
|
joepie91 |
that makes no sense, gzip is stream compression afaik? |
|
20:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
if you just create an index of files within the tar.gz with the corresponding (approximate) positions in the gz. |
|
20:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
it should be possible to extract just that part |
|
20:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and serve the file in there |
|
20:40
🔗
|
joepie91 |
afaik |
|
20:40
🔗
|
Schbirid |
i just installed windows 7 |
|
20:40
🔗
|
Schbirid |
and it has no ethernet drivers, lol |
|
20:41
🔗
|
SmileyG |
ffs, code to create tar? |
|
20:41
🔗
|
SmileyG |
I'm tired winr4r :< |
|
20:41
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: tar cvf michaelsharkey.tar michaelsharkey/ |
|
20:41
🔗
|
SmileyG |
gah, - was killing it |
|
20:42
🔗
|
SmileyG |
and where do you want this file? :D |
|
20:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
yeah, waiting for something on stdin |
|
20:42
🔗
|
* |
SmileyG ponders where to put it |
|
20:42
🔗
|
SmileyG |
hmmmm dropbox :) |
|
20:42
🔗
|
Schbirid |
your personal butt |
|
20:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: yeah, for the lolz |
|
20:42
🔗
|
SmileyG |
can you put it on yours plz |
|
20:42
🔗
|
SmileyG |
after I give it you :) |
|
20:42
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: sure thing |
|
20:43
🔗
|
winr4r |
is it big! |
|
20:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/ |
|
20:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
ehre |
|
20:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
here * |
|
20:43
🔗
|
joepie91 |
it's evidently possible :P |
|
20:44
🔗
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winr4r |
joepie91: that says nothing about running on, say, a 100gb tarball, or how well it'd work for it |
|
20:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
winr4r: given tar.gz are/were commonly used for backing up systems and restoring them, I would assume that the ability to extract single files is present (without having to extract everything) |
|
20:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
and quite honestly, given the format of a tar.gz |
|
20:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I can't see why it wouldn't be possible |
|
20:45
🔗
|
SmileyG |
no |
|
20:45
🔗
|
SmileyG |
9.9Mb winr4r |
|
20:45
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: send awayyy |
|
20:45
🔗
|
joepie91 |
winr4r: a tar.gz is just a gzip-compressed concatenation of files, in its essence |
|
20:46
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: yes |
|
20:46
🔗
|
SmileyG |
winr4r: email address or something? :D |
|
20:46
🔗
|
joepie91 |
therefore if you store the index of a particular file, I can't see how you would get issues |
|
20:46
🔗
|
winr4r |
SmileyG: winr4r@archivingyoursh.it |
|
20:46
🔗
|
SmileyG |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15756545/Archive%20Team/michaelsharky.tar.gz |
|
20:46
🔗
|
SmileyG |
there we go |
|
20:46
🔗
|
winr4r |
OR THAT |
|
20:46
🔗
|
SmileyG |
grab away |
|
20:46
🔗
|
SmileyG |
:D |
|
20:46
🔗
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omf_ |
yeah tar has seek and list which means you can generate an index and jump into the file |
|
20:47
🔗
|
winr4r |
omf_: but you stil have to decompress the tarball first |
|
20:47
🔗
|
joepie91 |
winr4r: why? |
|
20:47
🔗
|
joepie91 |
gzip is a -streaming- compression algo |
|
20:48
🔗
|
winr4r |
joepie91: gzip lets you seek to a location in the compressed file? |
|
20:48
🔗
|
joepie91 |
winr4r: I can't see why not |
|
20:48
🔗
|
joepie91 |
I don't know the specifics as to how you would figure out the file locations, but once you have the indexes of the files that should be possible just fine |
|
20:49
🔗
|
joepie91 |
there's a reason gzip streaming classes exist in pretty much every major language |
|
20:49
🔗
|
joepie91 |
so yes, it may require some messing around, but it's not impossible |
|
20:49
🔗
|
yipdw |
I don't think winr4r is disagreeing with that |
|
20:49
🔗
|
omf_ |
read this -> |
|
20:49
🔗
|
omf_ |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/429987/compression-formats-with-good-support-for-random-access-within-archives |
|
20:50
🔗
|
joepie91 |
the first answer describes the same thing that I was trying to describe |
|
20:50
🔗
|
winr4r |
yes, yipdw is right |
|
20:50
🔗
|
yipdw |
but you do need to decompress a gzip stream to get to position P (which is independent of streaming) |
|
20:51
🔗
|
yipdw |
and AFAIK, tarballs aren't indexed |
|
20:51
🔗
|
yipdw |
you can, however, build an index with e.g. tarix |
|
20:51
🔗
|
winr4r |
my point was: it's not as easily done, without generating a separate index, as it is in other formats |
|
20:51
🔗
|
yipdw |
which will facilitate random access |
|
20:51
🔗
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joepie91 |
... I've been indicating from the start that you'd need to build an index |
|
20:51
🔗
|
omf_ |
tars are indexed if they support --seek |
|
20:51
🔗
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joepie91 |
what exactly were we disagreeing on again? |
|
20:51
🔗
|
yipdw |
omf_: oh, neat, I didn't know about that |
|
20:51
🔗
|
yipdw |
joepie91: nothing, appearently |
|
20:52
🔗
|
omf_ |
you just read through all the headers instead and seek to a position instead of unrolling the whole file |
|
20:53
🔗
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winr4r |
joepie91: haha, not sure we did |
|
20:53
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|
omf_ |
not as good as zip or other solutions that build on .tar.gz but it works |
|
20:57
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|
SmileyG |
faster winr4r faster! |
|
20:58
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|
winr4r |
SmileyG: my upstream sucks man! |
|
20:58
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|
SmileyG |
D: |
|
20:59
🔗
|
SmileyG |
If you copied it to your dropbox it'd be instant? |
|
20:59
🔗
|
yipdw |
the NSA already has a copy, just ask them |
|
20:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
I want the NSA porn collection |
|
20:59
🔗
|
omf_ |
that has to be amazing |
|
20:59
🔗
|
SmileyG |
lol |
|
20:59
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|
winr4r |
i fucked my internet connection so bad last night uploading a 300mb file that i actually had to get someone else in -bs to google the instructions for throttling upstream using tc because I COULD NOT |
|
20:59
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|
winr4r |
I COULD LITERALLY NOT GO TO GOOGLE |
|
20:59
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|
omf_ |
face recognition on all that |
|
20:59
🔗
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SmileyG |
winr4r: should of asked me |
|
20:59
🔗
|
SmileyG |
I <3 tc |
|
21:00
🔗
|
SmileyG |
except doing IP based filters in tc sux |
|
21:00
🔗
|
SmileyG |
just don't do it |
|
21:00
🔗
|
omf_ |
Just the private sex tapes they have would be years worth of blackmail material |
|
21:00
🔗
|
omf_ |
people are so uptight about getting off |
|
21:01
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|
yipdw |
this sounds like an interesting business plan |
|
21:02
🔗
|
DFJustin |
joepie91: I'm sure .tar.gz is not a technical issue but rather "no one has turned it on" |
|
21:02
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|
Schbirid |
one hour until quakecon keynote by john carmack |
|
21:02
🔗
|
Schbirid |
will be streamed at http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda afaik |
|
21:03
🔗
|
DFJustin |
the whole archive browsing thing is an undocumented hack and not a priority for ia's limited staff |
|
21:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
I am all over that Schbirid |
|
21:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
He is doing 2 talks this year |
|
21:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
My boner is 8 feet long |
|
21:04
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|
omf_ |
the keynote and then a tech talk later |
|
21:04
🔗
|
Schbirid |
but can you hold it up for 3 hours? :P |
|
21:04
🔗
|
omf_ |
of course |
|
21:04
🔗
|
winr4r |
https://twitter.com/lewiscollard/status/363042134753943552 |
|
21:04
🔗
|
winr4r |
teehee |
|
21:05
🔗
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omf_ |
I just remember Carmack saying he was sick and the talk would not be that long... hours later |
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omf_ |
dude is a MACHINE |
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omf_ |
He is one of the very few programmers I would like to talk shop with |
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DFJustin |
http://i.imgur.com/4awZR3n.jpg |
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winr4r |
DFJustin: haha |
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winr4r |
hm |
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winr4r |
so over there, did the "PSA" adverts actually say "you wouldn't download a car"? |
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winr4r |
over here, it was "you wouldn't steal a car" |
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SmileyG |
my thought is "I would if the original was left behind, same way I'd take a picture of some hawt girl and it isn't rape". |
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winr4r |
i have a friend with a dodgy past and every time we watch a DVD and that comes up at the start we look at each other and laugh every time |
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SmileyG |
lol |
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winr4r |
seriously, though, the way 3D printing is going (which is to say, very very cheap 3D printing machines), i can't imagine how useful that's gonna be for making parts for old cars that aren't available anymore |
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SmileyG |
you can't imagine? |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: hyperbolic, but when you have actually have to wait *months* for some parts to show up on ebay, or spend several days machining them by hand the old-fashioned way, yeah, it's a big deal |
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SmileyG |
yeah, i was gonna say I imagine it's going to be HUGE |
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Schbirid |
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/07/31/man-scrotum-show/ |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: when good 3D printers come down to the £100 range, and they *will*, things are going to get very interesting |
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winr4r |
and a whole lot less shit is gonna be sent to landfill |
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SmileyG |
oh america. |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: mmmmm |
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omf_ |
I hope they build the air filters on the printers first or fix the particle problem some of them have |
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SmileyG |
you think people won't continue to throw stuff away? because they c an't just print a new one? |
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winr4r |
omf_: of course they will |
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winr4r |
SmileyG: they'll throw less shit away because they can print new parts for the old stuff |
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winr4r |
and in the case of simple stuff, as i understand it you can simply clean and shred the old stuff and feed it into 3D printers as new stock |
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SmileyG |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql4bHBYq7rE |
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SmileyG |
winr4r: oooo shreding is cool |
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winr4r |
which will have many many valuable secondary side-effects, like making recycling a lot more profitable :) |
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winr4r |
which is that there will be a market for non-thermosetting-plastics that can be made into 3D printer food |
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winr4r |
much of which goes to landfill now, and shouldn't |
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winr4r |
same way that metal recycling is so efficient that people go around stealing metal, but more so because that kind of plastic only needs to be cleaned off and shredded, not thrown through blast furnaces and shit |
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omf_ |
http://teenagemutantninjaturtles.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Master-Shredder-1987-Series-TMNT-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles.png |
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winr4r |
TEEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES! |
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winr4r |
goddamn |
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winr4r |
when i was a kid, like a single-digit kid, everyone was obsessed with that |
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xmc |
ahhhhh I remember that |
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omf_ |
I remember the cereal |
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omf_ |
and the plastic bowls |
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xmc |
I remember serial ports |
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mistym |
I dont remember TMNT-branded serial ports |
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winr4r |
omf_: i remember the backpacks and the fucking trainers and sticker books and holy good goddamn |
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winr4r |
i was like 8-9 and i thought it was stupid |
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Schbirid |
http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda carmack |
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joepie91 |
<winr4r>when i was a kid, like a single-digit kid, everyone was obsessed with that |
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joepie91 |
same! |
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joepie91 |
even the computer game thingie... |
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joepie91 |
merchandised to death |
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winr4r |
i didn't have computers at that age! |
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joepie91 |
I'm somehow using 6 out of my 8 GB of RAM |
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joepie91 |
nvm, 3 gigs now |
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joepie91 |
closed a chrome window |