#archiveteam-bs 2013-12-08,Sun

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00:38 🔗 Coderjoe dashcloud, joepie91: "most likely"? it is an unequivocal yes.
00:45 🔗 balrog there's an "archival quality" brand of DVDs around; I wonder how good they actually are
00:45 🔗 balrog "M-Disc"
00:45 🔗 balrog they claim 1000-year longevity
00:46 🔗 xmc how long have they been around?
00:46 🔗 Coderjoe you had better be testing and shifting periodincally, no matter what media you use. and have multiple copies.
00:46 🔗 SketchCow Yes, they come with an aging immortal knight who will defend the disc's integrity through interlopers until finally giving it up to Indy Jones and his dad
00:46 🔗 Coderjoe er... periodically
00:47 🔗 Coderjoe (how did that n get there?)
00:49 🔗 balrog how long? not all that long
00:49 🔗 balrog that's why I said "I wonder how good they are"
01:08 🔗 godane i keep getting this as a collection: https://archive.org/details/gamecube_discs
01:08 🔗 godane but its not looking like a collection
01:08 🔗 godane never seen a collection look like a item
01:37 🔗 joepie91 godane: that's definitely an item, not a collection
01:39 🔗 SketchCow Are you guys stalking me again?
01:39 🔗 godane yes
01:39 🔗 godane i only found when looking at the cdbbsarchive collection
01:39 🔗 SketchCow Well, guess what, for some reason, hundreds of Gamecube Disc Images seem to be difficult to interface with from a non-admin perspective.
01:40 🔗 godane but your able to make pc_cdrom and other collections without any problems
01:40 🔗 SketchCow mmmmm.
01:41 🔗 SketchCow That's because I get legal threats from "Nintendo"
01:41 🔗 SketchCow as opposed to 'PC'
01:41 🔗 SketchCow "Hi, we're from PC, we wish to file a complaint"
01:41 🔗 SketchCow "As you know, PC is one of the largest suppliers of games in the world"
01:41 🔗 SketchCow "People trust PC, and look for the PC seal approval when buying PC"
01:42 🔗 godane so i guess all of that is going dark then
01:42 🔗 SketchCow Our top-selling PC products, "Game" and "Application" are best-sellers
01:45 🔗 godane at some point i need collections for my twilight, crazybytes, maximum pc, and boot magazine cds
01:45 🔗 godane maximum pc is going to be big
01:45 🔗 SketchCow Yes
01:45 🔗 SketchCow After I get my stuff done, I tend to go through your things and set up arrangements.
01:46 🔗 SketchCow I'll be focusing pretty heavy on such throughout next year.
03:17 🔗 dashcloud so they did finally suspend the Rock smartwatch kickstarter project today
03:18 🔗 dashcloud it was rather interesting, and comical at times reading the comments and the updates (I just learned of it from Jason's tweet)
03:52 🔗 Coderjoe i didn't look too closely at it. what was up with it?
04:12 🔗 dashcloud the guy was trying to pass off a generic Android smartwatch he bought from China, and touting all the advantages it had- and he wasn't very forthcoming with actual details
04:13 🔗 dashcloud the first crack was the fact that the watch he and his company supposedly made bore a striking resemblance to one for sale on alibaba (Chinese electronics market)
04:15 🔗 dashcloud the project page is still up (and archived anyway): http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253126792/rocktm-first-qi-wifi-lifestyle-smartwatch-wireless/posts
04:16 🔗 dashcloud then there was the usual hacker story when he or someone in the project went on a crazy tear, and the many patents he's filing and filed (none of which could be named, on advice of his lawyer), then the sockpuppeting
04:18 🔗 dashcloud so has anyone in here ever successfully transplanted a recovery partition to a new hard drive and been able to run it then? I've spent pretty much all of today trying (and failing) to do that
04:19 🔗 dashcloud normally I would just clone the hard drive or use the recovery discs, but the main drive partition is mostly or completely shot, and recovery discs were never made
04:32 🔗 SketchCow It was great.
04:32 🔗 SketchCow Nothing is better than a scam artist who doubles down when cornered
05:33 🔗 BlueMax I hope all these people who decide to do these fake / moneygrubbing projects don't bring crowdfunding down as a thing
05:33 🔗 BlueMax probably won't but still
06:52 🔗 godane so i just had another bluray disc i just burned failed
06:52 🔗 godane this is right after i burned
06:52 🔗 godane its very weird
06:53 🔗 godane the other 3 costers was cause these discs was trying to be 10x for some reason
06:53 🔗 godane this last one was burned at the right speed
06:53 🔗 godane with no errors
06:56 🔗 Coderjoe there are often bad batches. and bad manufacturers.
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe plus, there are sometimes combinations of discs and drives that don't get along
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe (at least that was true of DVD. I would be surprised if it didn't extend into blu)
06:57 🔗 godane whats funny is that i'm using memorex drive with memorex discs :P
06:58 🔗 Coderjoe those memorex discs are likely CMC Magnetics or some other cheap OEM
06:58 🔗 Coderjoe the name on the label is meaningless
06:59 🔗 godane whats a good name bluray bland then?
06:59 🔗 godane also this stuff was just going to be move to another drive anyways
06:59 🔗 godane the blurays are for back of the back
07:00 🔗 godane *the blurays are a blackup of the backup
07:03 🔗 Coderjoe http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Call_82a6e8_1156708.jpg
07:04 🔗 godane i have bad typing at times
07:32 🔗 godane i may get Electronique et Loisirs Magazine for you guys
07:56 🔗 Coderjoe man. I love that Skip's uploading a bunch of videos to youtube, but it gets a bit spammy on twitter :-\
08:16 🔗 godane so starting to look like the bottom half of my discs maybe a bad batch
08:17 🔗 godane the 2nd one i have burned had the same problem
08:17 🔗 godane its funny in that its only cause problems with one folder
08:18 🔗 godane when i try to scan thur my wilkow folder to check the sha256sum
08:18 🔗 godane 04 folder is fine and everything checks out there
08:58 🔗 godane do we have LED - Loisirs Electroniques D'Aujourd'Hui magazine some whare
08:58 🔗 godane *where
08:58 🔗 godane cause i just found it on scribd
08:58 🔗 godane and it goes back to 1982
08:58 🔗 godane i will see about grabing it for you guys
11:45 🔗 Schbirid any idea how i can remove commas in one column of a tab-separated file?
11:45 🔗 Schbirid awk 'FS="\t",OFS="\t" {print $1, $2, $3, $4}'
11:46 🔗 Schbirid $4 is the one
11:46 🔗 Schbirid i tried '{print $1, $2, $3, gsub(",", "", $4)}' but that just gave me a 0 for every row
12:15 🔗 Schbirid awk -F "\t" '{gsub(/,/,"",$4)}1' OFS="\t"
13:59 🔗 joepie91 whoop whoop: http://owely.com/3OqmTc
15:50 🔗 m1das cool joepie91 :)
16:10 🔗 Schbirid i am hosting a quake deathmatch server for webquake at the moment: http://webquake.quaddicted.com/WebQuake.htm?+connect%20ws://webquake.quaddicted.com:26000
16:10 🔗 Schbirid that's html5/js/webgl quake engine and a node.js server (which it why it eats 100% cpu after 3-4 players join..)
16:10 🔗 Schbirid https://github.com/SiPlus/WebQuake is the source
16:18 🔗 SketchCow Trying it.
16:21 🔗 Schbirid http://webquake.quaddicted.com for more info
16:22 🔗 Schbirid mouse look seems broken in chrome/ium
16:23 🔗 SketchCow It is.
16:23 🔗 SketchCow But it's fun
16:23 🔗 Schbirid very much
16:24 🔗 Schbirid had some games yesterday with random strangers lagging like in 1996 with keyboard play :)
16:55 🔗 m1das oh man, mouse being broken is bad, but this is epic!
18:10 🔗 joepie91 :P
18:10 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: it even emulates the crappy!
18:11 🔗 m1das OK. i have a dilemma
18:12 🔗 m1das what to do: i need a new server because my old one is eating the planet's oil reserves. Should i go for at least the same amount of storage or less storage and lower power bill
18:13 🔗 m1das FYI: old one is using 500+ watts
18:19 🔗 yipdw m1das: I guess introducing power generation from renewable resources isn't an option
18:20 🔗 m1das yipdw: not really
18:21 🔗 m1das probably my biggest issue is that im running with 25 disks
18:21 🔗 yipdw how about reducing how much power each disk tasks
18:21 🔗 yipdw takes
18:22 🔗 m1das so less is more, swapping the 1 and 1.5TB disks for 4TB will reduce the power consumption
18:22 🔗 m1das but my areca controller isnt that power friendly either
18:23 🔗 m1das so was thinking of replacing the entire box for a i5 (current xeon), load of memory, zfs on linux, simple sata onboard controller
18:24 🔗 m1das maybe sell the old one for some extra cash :p
18:25 🔗 m1das or less drives than that, maybe 6x4TB, less space but thats okayish
18:27 🔗 m1das maybe use mdadm, i like the idea to grow my data pool later on
19:40 🔗 arkiver so I think I made my decision which computer I'm going to buy
19:40 🔗 joepie91 m1das: use less hungry HDDs? :P
19:41 🔗 arkiver and yeah I've asked it before, but for the last time, could you guys please look at this and what you think about with the price?
19:41 🔗 arkiver - Intel Core i5-4570 processor with 3.2 GHz and 6 MB Smart Cache
19:41 🔗 arkiver - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 with 1536 MB
19:41 🔗 arkiver - 1 TB hard drive
19:41 🔗 arkiver - 128 GB SSD
19:41 🔗 arkiver - 16 GB SDRAM on 1600 MHz
19:41 🔗 arkiver - HDMI, USB 3.0, WiFi, Gigabit LAN en CD/DVD
19:41 🔗 arkiver price: 799 euros
19:44 🔗 joepie91 that seems a bit pricey, arkiver
19:44 🔗 arkiver hmm
19:44 🔗 joepie91 should be possible to cut out at least 100 euro from that price
19:45 🔗 joepie91 from a first look
19:45 🔗 joepie91 is this a pre-built?
19:45 🔗 arkiver well I've compared it to other computers and this one clearly was much for the price...
19:45 🔗 arkiver yep
19:45 🔗 arkiver pre built
19:45 🔗 joepie91 try looking at different stores, or even just getting the parts separately and self-assembling
19:45 🔗 joepie91 I mean, it's not super expensive this way, but definitely more expensive than it could be for those specs
19:46 🔗 arkiver the processor is quite good I think: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4570+%40+3.20GHz&id=1896
19:46 🔗 joepie91 other useful tips would be trying to switch out things like the GFX card for one that scores slightly lower but is much cheaper
19:46 🔗 joepie91 that often helps a lot
19:46 🔗 arkiver and the videocard is at place 13... http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+760&id=2561
19:46 🔗 arkiver yeah well
19:47 🔗 arkiver I never really assembled a computer
19:47 🔗 joepie91 arkhive: it doesn't take a rocket scientist
19:47 🔗 arkiver but I think I'm just going to do that one
19:47 🔗 joepie91 just plug in stuff where it fits
19:47 🔗 joepie91 lol
19:47 🔗 arkiver :P
19:47 🔗 joepie91 that's seriously pretty much how to assemble a PC
19:47 🔗 arkhive lol wrong guy
19:47 🔗 arkiver oh...
19:47 🔗 arkhive I'm arkhive
19:47 🔗 arkiver I'm arkiver
19:47 🔗 arkhive he's arkiver
19:47 🔗 joepie91 oops
19:47 🔗 arkiver :)
19:47 🔗 arkhive stole my name
19:47 🔗 arkhive ha
19:47 🔗 arkiver lol
19:47 🔗 joepie91 stop having such similar nicks D:
19:47 🔗 Coderjoe i wish you could add stripes to raidz/z2/z3
19:48 🔗 arkhive i was first. heh :P
19:48 🔗 arkiver hehe
19:48 🔗 Coderjoe but it isn't really called for in an enterprise setting
19:48 🔗 joepie91 idc, just make it stop :P
19:48 🔗 joepie91 :D
19:48 🔗 arkhive emoticon overload
19:48 🔗 joepie91 on a more serious note
19:48 🔗 arkhive :)
19:48 🔗 * joepie91 is rolling out server monitoring
19:48 🔗 joepie91 :D
19:48 🔗 arkiver :P
19:48 🔗 arkiver O.o
19:49 🔗 joepie91 http://owely.com/6f75W4
19:49 🔗 Coderjoe also, the xeons based on the core-i5 are E5
19:51 🔗 arkhive heh.. they had an article in wired magazine a few years ago on the history of emoticons.. neat article. anyway.. gotta study for final tomorrow. and get a new mouse. i'm still using my logitech wired mouse from like 2006. now there is all this DPI stuff and laser vs optical blah blah. and need a new keyboard for my iMac.. the wireless one that came with it BLOWZ!
19:53 🔗 arkhive awful. crammed together with no number pad and no backlit blah blah. but anyway in the market for new mouse and keyboard for iMac. that razor ouroboros is 150 USD with 8200 dpi. must be good if it costs that much.. heh.
19:56 🔗 arkhive and that Razer DeathStalker Ultimate for 250 USD. lol. is it even worth it for the most avid gamer out there? I rarely PC game and just use my iMac for some coding and IRC.
19:56 🔗 joepie91 arkhive: expensive != necessarily good
19:56 🔗 arkhive ahh.. anyway i'm talking enough.. Just need to find a good keyboard with num pad. full keyboard.
19:56 🔗 joepie91 my all-time favourite mouse is a 25 or 35 (I forgot) Medion laser mouse from the Aldi
19:57 🔗 arkhive ya.. i know.. was a joke heh. the webpage advertising it makes it look so cool(isn't that the point though lol)
19:57 🔗 Schbirid <joepie91> just plug in stuff where it fits <- as someone who once forced an IDE plug upside down into the new hdd i kinda agree anyways
19:58 🔗 joepie91 rofl
19:58 🔗 joepie91 Schbirid: the problem there is 'force' :)
19:58 🔗 Schbirid i glued the broken pin back in and returned it just fine!
19:59 🔗 Schbirid it still worked, it was just slow (UDMA something not working)
20:02 🔗 joepie91 lol
20:03 🔗 arkiver so
20:03 🔗 arkiver when I have a new computer I got like 16 GB of memory and then I'll be able to archive a lot more
20:03 🔗 arkiver I'm thinking starting with crawling news websites
20:04 🔗 arkiver starting with my own country's newswebsites
20:04 🔗 arkiver and then going country by country
20:04 🔗 arkiver to have everything saved
20:04 🔗 arkhive As soon as I get faster internet I will help with Warrior. My city needs gigabit
20:04 🔗 arkhive What country you in, arkiver?
20:04 🔗 arkiver the netherlands
20:05 🔗 arkiver so I'll create a list of dutch websites first
20:05 🔗 arkhive ah. cool. My dad goes there for business sometimes.
20:05 🔗 arkiver and then I'd like to ask other to create a list of the biggest news sites from their countryu
20:05 🔗 arkiver from where are you?
20:05 🔗 arkhive USA
20:05 🔗 arkiver ah maybe you can help then by putting a list together
20:06 🔗 arkiver :)
20:06 🔗 arkiver from your newswebsites
20:06 🔗 arkhive for news like paper news but the website version? I just read the wall street and denver post
20:07 🔗 m1das i first tought you were talking to yourself arkiver, but then i noticed the small difference...
20:07 🔗 arkhive for other news i read arstechnica, cnet, news.google.com/technology or whatever,
20:07 🔗 arkhive hahah
20:07 🔗 arkhive actually laughed out loud
20:08 🔗 arkiver :P @ m1das
20:08 🔗 m1das joepie91: less powerhungry drives, really doesnt matter as i still have 24 of them :(
20:08 🔗 arkiver so I'll create a list of the websites in the wiki next week
20:08 🔗 joepie91 WD greens
20:08 🔗 arkiver and will keep that up to date with the newest downloads
20:08 🔗 arkiver WD!!
20:08 🔗 arkiver best ever!
20:08 🔗 arkiver got 6 harddrives of them
20:08 🔗 arkiver 5*3 TB
20:09 🔗 arkiver 1*2 TB
20:09 🔗 arkiver 17 TB
20:09 🔗 m1das joepie91: i prefer hitachi (the old ones) but still, dropping from 6 to 5 watts isnt going to change that much
20:09 🔗 arkiver I think they work perfectly no noise at all
20:09 🔗 arkhive i've got a list somewhere of things i'd like to add to the wiki project ideas.. never edited a wiki though.
20:09 🔗 arkiver arkhive: maybe we can start working on that list together
20:09 🔗 arkiver :)
20:09 🔗 arkiver do you have windows?
20:10 🔗 m1das biggest problem i have is the areca, she is power hungry and wont spindown since the last update
20:10 🔗 arkhive ah.. a good site to get if it hasn't already been copied is the Lego set instructions scans database
20:10 🔗 arkhive i have windows machines and an iMac. not running any linux machines at the moment
20:10 🔗 arkiver brb
20:11 🔗 arkhive k
20:12 🔗 arkhive damn i need some kind of tab/window manager for chrome and firefox. I have 5 FF windows open with a bunch of tabs on each and 7 chrome windows with a ton of tabs each.
20:13 🔗 arkhive but ya.. anyway.. the sites that have scans of lego set instructions would be good to grab
20:14 🔗 arkhive anyone want Tropico 3 Steam Special Edition Steam key. I have an extra.
20:17 🔗 xmc m1das | i first tought you were talking to yourself arkiver, but then i noticed the small difference...
20:17 🔗 xmc worst part is weechat makes them both bold cyan
20:17 🔗 m1das xmc: indeed
20:17 🔗 joepie91 why do you people all have so much disk space
20:17 🔗 joepie91 I only have 40GB ;_;
20:18 🔗 m1das joepie91: http://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
20:18 🔗 joepie91 boo
20:23 🔗 m1das i want to buy a tank.
20:23 🔗 arkhive a real tank? like an abrhams or whatever?
20:23 🔗 m1das a T55 recovery tank
20:23 🔗 m1das they cost the same as a Skoda Octavia
20:24 🔗 m1das just alot more fun
20:25 🔗 m1das or a ATS 59 tracktor
20:33 🔗 arkiver so
20:51 🔗 arkiver hmm someone knows what the difference is between a graphics card and a processor?
20:58 🔗 godane i'm grabing LED - Loisirs Electroniques D'Aujourd'Hui magazine from t411.com
20:58 🔗 godane at least part1
20:59 🔗 godane whats weird is the radio count has not changed
20:59 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
21:00 🔗 Coderjoe well that domain name certainly sounds suspicious... (blocked by noscript) iesnare (dot) com
21:32 🔗 joepie91 http://owely.com/23ml1o :D
22:17 🔗 yipdw arkiver: what difference in particular are you looking for

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