[00:05] for the implementation, if it were to be scanned anyway, I would probably use a barcode [00:08] mm. what sort of data capacity does yer typical tiny passive RFID tag have these days? [00:09] could strap one to each pigeon, program it on the way out of the loft, read it at the other end [00:18] yes, RFC1149 needs an update [00:18] in a zombie apocolypse, it might be valueable [00:22] it's been updated twice - once to add QoS support (including a nice ASCII art diagram of an avian carrier leaving a log entry when waiting in a queue), and once more in an IPv6 version [00:32] googd, good, RFC's need to be uopdated regularly [00:36] anyone got paid work for me? :/ [00:48] I gotta guy [00:48] He's gotta die [00:49] You gotta put a bullet in this fuck's head, see, and you gotta make sure, before he goes, he knows who sent you [00:49] youse got that? [00:57] ://// [01:05] no no no, you're supposed to name your price at that point [01:15] * BlueMax hides [01:42] $75? really? [01:44] that was a bad place to ask... [01:44] anyway, someone wants $75 as a starting bid (or 110 Buy It Now) for a bunch of DOOM stuff [01:46] ... wait, is there a copy of doom3 in there? [06:43] whoo, first review on something I uploaded [06:43] * joepie91 marks milestone [07:27] hm [07:27] I need an easyca [07:27] easycap * [07:27] and a VCR [07:28] anybody have a spare easycap type thing laying around by any chance? [07:29] also, how reasonable is it to 'digitize' cassette tapes by hooking up a tape recorder headphone jack to line in on my PC? [07:56] Why do that? [07:57] Well, what are you digitizing? [08:04] SketchCow: that is uncertain, but I'm planning to go around and try to get my hands on some old Dutch stuff that is only available on VHS (series, movies, etc.) or cassettes (music) [08:04] and I should probably have a 'reasonable' digitization setup handy before attempting that [09:02] so cbsnews.com is giving me 503 errors now for video pages [09:03] i can't even download the videos that just downloaded [09:03] there giving a 404 error [09:27] hi [09:31] Maybe CBS is scared of you [09:31] So, my manager at the Internet Archive has declared tomorrow "MuuMuu Monday" and we all have to wear muumuus [09:31] I have no idea why [09:35] no i just typed the wrong urls [09:35] its video${id}.mp4 not $[id}.mp4 [09:37] the video pages did say 503 error though [09:38] but cbs is on a very iffy server anyways [09:47] so looks like there is warcraft3 maps on one of my lki dvds [09:47] I hope you're sleeping all right, godane [09:48] i went to bed around 6pm [09:48] got up around 2:30am [09:50] so good news [09:50] lki 61 files dvd is not a nrg file [09:50] i was thinking it was cause it only said data when using file command [09:51] everything else say stuff like 'ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'LKI_11_2006'' [12:31] joepie91: I can't tell you how good this actually is, but someone I know is using this unit: http://www.amazon.com/Jensen-Stereo-Cassette-Encoding-Computer/dp/B006K2U6WE to dump tapes to the computer, and then make CDs from them [12:56] woah [12:56] http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2014/01/this-16th-century-book-can-be-read-six-different-ways/ [13:06] I use a USB cassette player for audio tapes myself. [13:06] Also, holy crap, that amazon link is one unappetizing photo [13:09] hm joepie91, we should try to archive CD-I [13:15] dashcloud: the review does not inspire much confidence [13:15] dashcloud: also, if I want audio I can just use the line in trick, I'd really only be interested in a USB reader if it offered something beyond that (ie. magnetic signal reading and throughput or whatever) [13:16] not to mention "we don't guarantee this works on MAC" [13:16] which means it almost certainly will not work on Linux [13:31] I don't think I have ever heard movies on videotape called software before watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqG6OurHaM [13:32] (it's a tv talking heads show about economics) [13:33] i have heard it applied to DVD, but not vhs [13:40] http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2014/01/this-16th-century-book-can-be-read-six-different-ways/ [13:40] *sigh* sorry. [13:41] Different compter, different terminal emulator, different mouse behaviour. [13:42] godane: NRG is an image format. ISO9660 is a filesystem format which is also conflated with raw images of that filesystem. NRG files can contain data in an ISO9660 filesystem format. [13:42] ok [13:48] anyways there is going to be 2 isos from issue 60 on with lki set [13:48] one has videos another has files [13:48] there about 8gb each [13:49] midas: is there any CD-I stuff in NL? [14:16] joepie91: massive [14:16] oh? [14:16] it's phillips [14:17] i have massive amounts of VHS btw, might start to backup those [14:17] if i didnt threw away my VHS recorder away a couple of months ago :/ [14:17] De afgelopen weken kregen we opvallend veel mails binnen uit Overloon. Mensen met een mobiel telefoonabonnement van KPN (waarbij ook bijvoorbeeld Hi en Telfort horen) hebben sinds 23 december 2013 geen bereik meer.[...] KPN reageerde op sommige mailklachten met de belofte om telefonisch contact op te nemen: maar dat kan dus niet, want de mobiele telefoons doen het niet in Overloon. [14:17] * joepie91 claps [14:18] lol? [14:18] just KPN being KPN [14:18] lol [14:18] http://www.kpn.com/prive/klantenservice/storingen/storing-overloon.htm [14:18] anyway, midas, I would have no idea where to begin with CD-I [14:18] and a VHS recorder shouldn't be hard to come across [14:18] and yeah, I know [14:18] lol [14:19] lol @ 15:05:10 Skyrider_ | Req on shutting down the archiver on forums.sourceop.com [14:21] huh? [14:21] #archivebot [14:28] well, thats new [14:28] user joining a channel because he thinks #archivebot is killing his site :p [14:29] midas; not an unreasonable thought [14:30] but unlikely to be the case here [14:30] given the request rate [14:30] which goes at approximately the pace of an injured slug [14:30] cant access the dashboard, internetconnection here does not allow any other ports... :< [14:30] midas: basically, one request every 10-20 secs [14:30] or so [14:31] thats pritty sluggish [14:31] website itself (on my browser) works fine [14:32] it's slow though [14:34] Talking about that, I have a script that is pulling information from a website approx how often would be long enough to wait between each request? I was thinking like 20-30 seconds (It would be like 400 requests once a week). It's a college website, so not a small one or a very big one. [14:35] Dud2: 1-2 seconds between requests is usually sufficient [14:35] :P [14:35] but if somebody's hosting it on their toaster, you may want to consider a longer delay [14:35] s/toaster/raspi [14:35] ;-) [14:41] same thing [14:45] joepie91: for your 404 archive http://www.deruitershop.com/ [14:46] is there a 404 archive anyway? [14:53] midas: there is now [14:53] :) [14:57] :P [14:57] add ALL the 404's [14:57] you know what would be awesome [14:57] if archivebot had a feature to tell it add this to a certain archive/group [14:59] midas: add more stuff to yipdw's todo why don't you [14:59] :P [15:03] hahaha :p [15:03] sorry yipdw ! [15:12] nah it's finet [15:12] midas: the todo list is so long anyway and I actually spend a lot more time these days working on a game [15:13] midas: if you really think it'd be a useful feature, feel free to file an issue at archivebot's github issue tracker [15:15] yipdw: a game? :o [15:15] platformer [15:16] yipdw: link :D? [15:16] also, http://i.imgur.com/T7oBH8w.gif [15:16] http://piniongame.tumblr.com/ hasn't been publicly updated in a long time, but it shows visual styles at least [15:16] there isn't much in the way of public details beyond that -- the person I'm working with doesn't want to release anything more yet [15:16] that's quite nice [15:16] yeah, it's fun [15:17] for some reason I convinced myself that doing this by gluing together middleware would be useful [15:17] ? [15:17] SFML, Box2D, etc [15:17] no bells ring [15:17] I mean, it is, because (A) I control all the source code and (B) I can teach myself what's going on [15:17] but it has been a bit frustrating to run up against limitations he [15:17] h [15:18] SFML's like SDL, except I like its interface more [15:18] ah [15:18] Box2D is a 2D physics engine [15:20] the main issue that I've had has been dealing with some SFML decisions to simplify certain tasks: for example, SFML's world coordinate system mirrors many UI toolkits in that the Y-axis increases doing down the screen and the origin is upper left [15:21] but all of my vertex setup assumes (0, 0) at world center, so I've had to add some hacks to get it to play nice with SFML's built-in views [15:22] but THAT hackery hit a wall when I realized that flipping the Y-axis does not also flip texture coordinates, so I'm going through the codebase to just write my own model-view-projection matrices etc [15:22] shit like that :P [15:23] it has however been a fun learning process and luckily neither of us are under time or financial constraints to get this done, so so long as stuff keeps moving we're in good shape [15:25] :) [15:26] * joepie91 still celebrating first review on an item he uploaded [15:27] ah yeah, I got one of those once [15:27] it was less a review and more a "why the fuck haven't you added a description" though [15:27] :P [15:28] haha [15:28] nah, this was an actual review [15:28] yipdw: https://archive.org/details/BBCStoryville-2013-GoogleAndTheWorldBrain-720pHD [15:30] "cataloging "Leaves of Grass" under a topic like Agriculture" [15:30] hahahaha [15:31] assuming that reviewer meant Whitman's poetry [15:32] yeah, it's mentioned in the docu :P [15:32] as an example of a metadata fuckup [15:32] heh [15:34] let's see if my USB hub handles two scanners [15:34] without additional PSU [15:34] loojs like it [15:35] looks * [15:35] awesome :) [15:36] Bus 001 Device 009: ID 03f0:0105 Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 4200c [15:36] Bus 001 Device 010: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30 [15:37] "no devices available" [15:37] that's a lie, xsane, and you know it [15:39] * joepie91 stares [15:39] why are my scanners not working [15:39] :| [15:39] I got a brand new printer cable too [15:40] HP.... [15:41] are scannners now going to act like printers or what [15:41] did either work previously? [15:41] refusing to work when you need them [15:41] both did [15:41] k [15:41] hmmm [15:41] and yes, it's an old ass HP [15:41] meh [15:41] old as in "takes 2 minutes to scan an A4 at 300dpi" old [15:41] makes support easier normally :D [15:41] :P [15:41] lol [15:41] this is Linux [15:41] :D [15:41] what are you talking about [15:41] however i'm not experienced with scanners in linux tbh [15:41] HP is generally hell under Linux [15:42] other than knowing they use sane [15:42] [15:40:50] <@Smiley> HP.... [15:42] see my first comment ;) [15:42] they're the only manufacturer that actually requires bloatware on Linux [15:42] for many models [15:42] Bus 006 Device 002: ID 03f0:0105 Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 4200c [15:42] Bus 006 Device 003: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30 [15:42] let's see if it works now [15:42] perhaps my hub was overloaded after all [15:42] oh, it does! [15:42] or well [15:42] xsane booted [15:44] http://owely.com/8WKXej [15:44] I suspect that my canoscan may have died [15:44] :/ [15:45] yup, I think it's dead [15:45] oh great, my HP isn't recognized again [15:45] * joepie91 sighs [15:46] did I mention that I hate scanners [15:46] :D [15:47] * joepie91 wonders if tigerdirect or overstock ship to NL [15:49] network scanner for the win [15:50] dump all the paper in it, set it up to scan to ftp/smb/email/cifs/nfs or whatever you like and _never_ look back [15:50] midas: A3 formfeed scanner pls [15:50] lol [15:50] i have [15:51] D: [15:51] gief [15:51] no. [15:51] * joepie91 is still saving up for one [15:51] because then i will not have one! :p [15:51] lol [15:51] * midas has http://www.sharp.nl/cps/rde/xchg/nl/hs.xsl/-/html/productdetails.htm?product=ARM165 [15:51] midas: do you know if tigerdirect ship to NL [15:51] err, i think they do [15:52] http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6728284&CatId=294 [15:52] this might be an okay temporary replacement [15:52] until I have monies for an A3 scanner [15:52] need to check linux compat though [15:52] or ship to myus and reship from there :p [15:52] this seems to be the cheapest lide model that tigerdirect sells [15:53] I'm sure that'll cost monies [15:53] ship it to someone here in the US [15:53] im guessing SketchCow can reship it or something [15:53] urgh that's gonna cost $$$$$ [15:53] the problem would be import [15:53] weigh's a lot i guess [15:54] dollah! [15:54] joepie91: [15:54] doesn't matter [15:55] 1.5kg btw [15:55] aa [15:55] we need a traderoute for american stuff to the US [15:55] 3.4lbs Smiley [15:55] hahaha [15:55] i do Kg. [15:55] not so bad, but still expensive to ship. [15:56] USA, y u no metric? [15:56] bah, I need to sign up before they gief shipping costs [15:56] fuck it [15:56] pricewatch [15:56] I'll throw my BTC through Bitonic [15:56] padummm [15:56] 56 euro :/ [15:57] joepie91: https://www.bva-auctions.com/auction/lot/9589/3745187 [15:57] lol [15:57] scanner? :p [15:57] I don't have 200 euro [15:57] I don't have 200 euro plus extra fees * [15:57] plus no space for something like that [15:58] I'm saving up for a Brother all-in-one [15:58] with A3 formfeed scanner [15:58] that's the cheapest compact A3 formfeed option [15:58] midas: you don't happen to have some random flatbed handy, do you [15:58] this thing will scan the A2 road im guessing [15:58] lol [15:59] err, ill check when i get back home [15:59] midas: let me amend that request [15:59] you don't happen to have some random flatbed with a reasonable speed handy * [15:59] 2 minutes a page is ridiculously slow and not sufficient :P [15:59] (which is why I like the LiDEs [15:59] get this thing https://www.bva-auctions.com/auction/lot/9435/3767498 [15:59] as they do 15 sec scans) [15:59] (less even) [16:00] 200 euro again [16:01] anyway. midas, if you don't have a flatbed handy... it'll be https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/267448/canon-canoscan-lide-110.html [16:06] midas: but yeah, let me know if you find anything :) [16:12] sure [16:16] will check joepie91 [16:17] heyyyyyy [16:25] okay so [16:25] theoretically [16:26] this 4200c should be supported [16:26] I know it worked before [16:26] but it seems the driver isn't being loaded [16:26] for whatever reason [16:38] YES [16:38] IT'S RECOGNIZED BY YASTY [16:38] YAST * [16:38] WHOO IT WORKS [16:38] aw yeah [16:39] for certain values of "works" [16:42] D: [16:42] meaning it is still slow as balls [16:49] http://sprunge.us/YgFe [16:49] whoo [17:08] * joepie91 is still not awfully impressed by the quality of this scanner [17:08] http://cryto.net/~joepie91/0013.png [17:19] joepie91: What scanner, out of curiosity? [17:22] mistym: HP ScanJet 4200C [17:22] so, older than the earth itself [17:23] that weird scanner that had a parallel chipset with some weird USB bridge to make it work over USB [17:46] anybody bored and interested in running a pile of scans through Scan Tailor? [17:46] probably requiring a good amount of manual adjustments [17:46] because comic [20:48] damn you SketchCow. Though I can't remember the words, I now have Being Alive stuck in my head. (the melody, anyway) [20:49] (and I haven't listened to it since I saw your post yesterday) [20:54] if you think archiving cassettes is a pain, try software on 8-track tape http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=320908 [20:54] O_o software on 8 track? [20:55] wow [20:55] how about software on vinyl? [20:56] exists iirc, I remember hearing of some old magazines with small vinyl coverdiscs to be played into the cassete port of a home computer [20:56] eventually we'll be preserving punch cards that aren't in the right order [20:57] 'floppy ROM' is a term to Google for, I believe [20:57] i wonder if i still have that bit of mylar tape I had years ago [20:58] you're forgetting: software on playing cards (nintendo e-reader) [20:59] i find the 8 track one a bit weird, though, since there is no start [20:59] sure enough https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_standard#Floppy_ROM [21:00] for the 8-track thing the actual program is on rom chips and the tape stores ascii data for quiz questions and answers [21:09] software on vinyl has a warmth that digital downloads can't match [21:10] haha [21:28] Fuck me, led lights are BRIGHT [21:28] ill be blind for months [21:33] yipdw: bahaha [22:01] very soon you can 3d print vinyl records using mp3 [22:01] the vinyl record will mostly be some sort of plastic but works in a vinyl record player [22:13] Dark Crystal Director's Cut taken down. [22:13] Youtube and Internet Archive. [22:13] A glorious month! [22:20] so i found some missing episodes of CBS Evening News [22:23] missing cause there not in the sitemap xml anymore [22:52] https://i.imgur.com/Fzb2lEX.png [22:54] Seems legit [22:54] for you, gigaclicks give software special price [22:57] DFJustin: Not at all skeevy [22:57] DFJustin: Was it actually bundled with something semi-legit? [22:58] just reposting