| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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06:06
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godane |
i'm grabbing Samurai Archives Japanese History podcast |
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06:06
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godane |
its 92 episodes into it |
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15:04
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm starting to upload artistserver.com to your ftp |
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15:04
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godane |
the mp3s of it anyways |
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15:18
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chfoo98 |
# Appears as ARMANDO |
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15:18
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chfoo |
sorry about that, just testing |
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15:19
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chfoo |
ms chat still works i guess |
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15:19
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DFJustin |
haha |
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15:55
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yipdw |
wat -> https://www.refheap.com/4a0233b7ea5fb1bd4bad68acc |
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16:02
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Ravenloft |
http://www.dustandgrooves.com/rutherford-chang-we-buy-white-albums/ |
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16:36
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Jonimus |
chfoo: not only does it still work, its actually fairly decent if you need an IRC client that runs on old versions of Windows. |
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16:36
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Jonimus |
of course you have to turn off the terrible comic features though |
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16:53
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phuzion |
Jonimus: How come? lol |
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16:58
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Jonimus |
because they spam the channel you are in of course. |
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17:48
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Ravenloft |
"if you need an IRC client that runs on old versions of Windows" |
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17:49
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Ravenloft |
old mIRC also works |
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17:49
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Ravenloft |
the first versions were 16 bits |
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17:49
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Jonimus |
yeah but then you're using mIRC which is a fate worse than death IMO :P |
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17:51
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Ravenloft |
I like it :) |
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17:51
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Ravenloft |
different strokes for different folks |
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18:01
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schbirid |
huh? http://www.knightfoundation.org/grants/201499909/ vs https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/issues/1698#issuecomment-53745006 wtf |
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18:01
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schbirid |
i thought they were developing like mad now |
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18:06
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DFJustin |
the old versions of mirc have known security flaws though |
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19:02
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Ravenloft |
in old versions of Windows, security flaws is a given overall :) |
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19:04
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Ravenloft |
anyone IRCing in it is doing just for the lulz anyway |
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19:04
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Ravenloft |
with ancient hardware a *nix flavor would be way more sane |
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19:07
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yipdw |
i'm gonna run MS Comic Chat under WINE in an lxc VM and make people wonder if I am leet, newb, or asshole |
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19:32
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|
* |
Smiley ponders if we could use torrents for our space problems short term? |
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19:32
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Smiley |
have people grab certain blocks etc. |
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19:33
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antomatic |
How about some of those 1tb Dropbox accounts? |
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19:34
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antomatic |
The great thing about Dropbox is that it's *so easy* to share stuff between accounts directly |
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19:34
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antomatic |
aside from all the space, of course |
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19:35
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Smiley |
how do you get a 1tb account? :/ |
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19:35
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|
antomatic |
$10/month now |
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19:35
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antomatic |
used to be 100Gb, now 1tb |
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19:35
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Smiley |
i wish mah google drive had better intergration tbh |
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19:36
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yipdw |
i want to point out that twitch, justin.tv, and mobileme are the only projects where we have had space problems |
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19:36
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|
* |
Smiley needs to see if he can push his backups there via cli. |
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19:36
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Smiley |
you mean the last 2 of 8 and one a bit futher back? |
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19:36
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Smiley |
yipdw: I'd be willing to guess it's going to be a growing problem. |
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19:36
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yipdw |
where are you getting 8 from |
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19:36
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Smiley |
random number of projects I recall? |
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19:36
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Smiley |
some of those weren't warrior :O |
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19:37
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Smiley |
the last 2 tho |
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19:37
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Smiley |
justin and twitch.... |
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19:37
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Smiley |
more like that == sad pandas |
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19:37
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Smiley |
Right, gotta run, chat bit later maybe. |
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19:37
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yipdw |
https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/?query=grab |
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19:37
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antomatic |
Blip.tv got controversial too |
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19:37
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antomatic |
as i recall |
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19:37
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antomatic |
bye smiley |
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19:40
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yipdw |
so, the nice thing about space-over-time is that it gets cheaper for IA, too |
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19:40
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yipdw |
and we should drum up more donations |
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19:40
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yipdw |
I just think Dropbox is ass |
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19:41
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yipdw |
and am not really interested in relying on them for storage |
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19:41
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antomatic |
Perhaps, but it's 1TB of online storage for rather less than $2,000 |
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19:41
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yipdw |
because now to upload you suddenly need to have a Dropbox account and give them and Condolezza Rice all sorts of personal data |
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19:41
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yipdw |
fuck that |
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19:42
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antomatic |
Mm, I'll admit to a sympathy with that POV |
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19:43
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yipdw |
I guess you could fake-register |
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19:44
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yipdw |
but then you put yourself at risk for account deletion due to ToS violation, and bye bye data |
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19:45
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yipdw |
with IA, even if you account goes away, the data is still there |
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19:45
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antomatic |
We should collect old USB sticks and build a massiv array |
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19:46
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|
godane |
or start looking at creating those 5PB dvd disks |
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19:47
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godane |
anyways i know ohhdemgir as a PB of data |
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19:47
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|
godane |
but i don't think thats free |
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19:47
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godane |
*free space |
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19:48
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yipdw |
if you've got the money to do any of the above you probably have the money to donate $10 or $20/month |
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19:48
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ivan`_ |
storage hasn't been getting cheaper for three years |
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19:50
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antomatic |
I bought a 5tb drive today, 6% cheaper than this time last month |
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19:52
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ivan`_ |
Seagate? RIP your data ;) |
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19:52
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|
antomatic |
that's what RAID is for |
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19:52
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|
antomatic |
(or equivalent better technologies) |
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19:52
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godane |
ivan`_: IA uses Seagate |
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19:53
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ivan`_ |
godane: interesting |
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19:54
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godane |
i think it was only some Seagate drives that problems |
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19:54
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|
antomatic |
12% cheaper if you include the retailer discount |
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19:54
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godane |
i remember 1.5tb drvies are the ones that keep craping out |
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19:54
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|
antomatic |
Backblaze did a good Blog piece about it.. |
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19:55
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|
antomatic |
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/ |
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19:55
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|
antomatic |
yes, Seagate naffer-than-your-average, on the older drives |
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19:55
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|
antomatic |
but again, that's what warranties are for |
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19:59
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SketchCow |
Where's my hug |
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19:59
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* |
antomatic looks around |
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19:59
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|
* |
antomatic embraces nervously |
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19:59
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SketchCow |
Shhh, nobody saw |
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20:08
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godane |
i'm uploading new episodes of rev3games originals |
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20:09
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|
godane |
its close to being 100 episodes behind |
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20:09
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|
godane |
looks like episode 495 and 498 don't exist anymore |
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20:09
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|
godane |
i can prove that 498 episode existed but i can't download it |
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20:20
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godane |
i'm grabbing the youtube copy of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtUaQPJK8FI |
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21:18
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ohhdemgir |
cial situation at ia.. storage per GB is getting ever cheaper though so that's something .. urghh money, dirty, necessary evil!! |
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21:18
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ohhdemgir |
godane, yipdw antomatic USB arrays? wut, are we talking the slowly filling arrays at ia and cost again? I'd donate I'm just terrible frugal atm, even though I've spent silly amount on getting 1.2PB of storage with everything else I'm cheap!! :| donating $50/month doesn't go far when you think it's costing $2k/1TB stored, I imagine the big donations are what keeps ia afloat, though I wont pretend to know anything about the finan |
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21:19
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yipdw |
$50/month/person * 40 people = $2000 |
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21:19
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yipdw |
not that bad |
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21:20
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yipdw |
also re crowdfunding, given https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad is possible, I refuse to believe the problem is merely numbers |
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21:26
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ohhdemgir |
how do we market help save all the data better than we are currently? I think the best angle is the wayback machine as it's the most used service right? |
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21:27
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yipdw |
i think one way would be to curate a Ferguson, MO archive |
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21:28
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yipdw |
it does have the stink of opportunism but it does show the cultural importance of IA |
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21:28
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DFJustin |
https://archive.org/details/fergusonmissouri |
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21:28
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yipdw |
but don't use it as an incentive to donate; get it up and running and just make sure the donation link and rationale is accessible (ideally on the same page) |
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21:28
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yipdw |
DFJustin: yeah |
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21:29
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DFJustin |
but with more than 4 things in it I guess |
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21:29
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yipdw |
also perhaps on http://blog.archive.org/ |
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21:30
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yipdw |
wayback is very cool, but I think it is really only used by internerds |
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21:31
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yipdw |
it doesn't yet have the same sort of cultural relevance that twitfacetube etc have |
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21:31
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yipdw |
solving that would be a cool problem too |
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21:33
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yipdw |
maybe we can get Mozilla/Google to ship an enabled-by-default extension that offers wayback results when Firefox/Chrome hits 404s |
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21:33
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yipdw |
IMO the only people who would be angry about that are slashdot commentators who think that that is somehow corrupting the meaning of HTTP 404 |
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21:36
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ohhdemgir |
404 (kinda) |
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21:36
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yipdw |
it is still a 404 |
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21:36
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schbirid |
i would be scared of that leading to more people disallowing ia |
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21:37
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schbirid |
"if i say 404, i dont want people to recover my deleted stuff" |
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21:37
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ohhdemgir |
fuckers |
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21:37
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yipdw |
schbirid: possible, but then they should learn about 410 |
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21:37
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yipdw |
actually that wouldn't help |
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21:37
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yipdw |
never mind, there is no technical solution for that |
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21:38
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yipdw |
I guess at that point we have the much harder problem of getting people to think of the web as a publishing and distribution system |
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21:50
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godane |
where is the auido of this: https://web.archive.org/web/19970715233248/http://www.packet.com/packet/hotseat/97/07/index4a.html |
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21:50
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godane |
bad news is the ram file is a pnm link |
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22:06
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Famicoman |
godane, do you keep a list of files you can't find? |
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22:06
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DFJustin |
wow 2 whole terabytes |
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22:07
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DFJustin |
they should do a torrent of the entire 1997 internet |
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22:08
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Famicoman |
godane, what the hell is rev3games originals? How did I miss that? |
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22:09
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godane |
there sort of a collection of rev3games shows |
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22:09
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Famicoman |
oh, it's still going on |
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22:09
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godane |
yes |
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22:10
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|
godane |
i also got luckly and found the youtube version of episode 498 |
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22:11
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godane |
Famicoman: i saved this from the youtube stream https://archive.org/details/rev3games-25-hour-extra-life-charity-livestream-part1 |
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22:11
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godane |
and part 2 https://archive.org/details/rev3games-25-hour-extra-life-charity-livestream-part2 |
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22:11
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godane |
parts of it are in rev3games originals |
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22:12
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Famicoman |
I wonder if 498 ever went on the site |
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22:12
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Famicoman |
they have a ton of holes in their show catalogs |
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22:13
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godane |
check here: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701022637/http://revision3.com/rev3gamesoriginals/feed/mp4-hd30 |
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22:13
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DFJustin |
damn, looks like it still existed as recently as 2009 http://simson.net/page/HotSeat |
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22:14
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|
Famicoman |
that's weird |
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22:15
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|
godane |
episode 495 on the other i have no idea |
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22:24
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DFJustin |
wow while poking around, found out this earlier interview is still up http://web.archive.org/web/19970712133735/http://www.real.com/contentp/npr/nb6o01.html |
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22:24
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DFJustin |
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1030439 |
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22:24
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DFJustin |
download.npr.org/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/nb6o0101.ra |
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22:56
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godane |
DFJustin: thanks |
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22:56
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godane |
i will see about download all i can of this |
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23:00
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|
godane |
i figured out the patten |
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23:01
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|
DFJustin |
mwahaha |
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23:01
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godane |
for example october 16, 1996 is this url: download.npr.org/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/nb6o1601.ra |
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23:03
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godane |
september 3 1996 for example: download.npr.org/real.npr.na-central/raarchives/me/nb6s0301.ra |
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23:44
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|
godane |
some bad news about december 1996 |
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23:44
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|
godane |
i think they used another host for half of the month and they don't have in there archives |