#archiveteam-bs 2014-11-19,Wed

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00:16 🔗 the_fox Somewhat ironic example of information being lost: Nobody knows for sure who invented the modern fire hydrant, because the patent for it (along with many others) were destroyed in a fire.
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00:21 🔗 TFGBD lel
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00:40 🔗 Ravenloft I leave the computer uploading all the files (.bin .cue .png) and came back now, but looks like only the .png was uploaded
00:40 🔗 Ravenloft https://archive.org/details/PCMaster34
00:41 🔗 Ravenloft ah, it was not showing on the beta
00:41 🔗 Ravenloft but on the old interface looks that it worked
00:42 🔗 Ravenloft so, if someone care to take a look and confirm that I did nothing wrong
00:43 🔗 DFJustin looks like it's all there
00:43 🔗 midas seems complete
00:43 🔗 DFJustin you should direct it to the community software collection rather than community media
00:44 🔗 DFJustin in this case I'll throw it in the coverdiscs collection
00:44 🔗 midas not sure if you can upload it directly to community software ?
00:44 🔗 DFJustin you can
00:44 🔗 DFJustin once it's marked as software rather than image, the other files should be more accessible
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00:46 🔗 midas dang, its almost 2AM and i have to work at 8.30 again
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00:52 🔗 DFJustin also it's nice to have the year entered on cds so you can browse by year
00:53 🔗 DFJustin https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=coverdiscs&field=year
00:56 🔗 Rallias yipdw: Since you're not in other channel, I'll relay it here. Maintenance is done, shrunk down by 480 gb disk and 8 gb ram,
01:02 🔗 yipdw Rallias: cool, that should be fine
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01:53 🔗 joepie91 weird, I seem to have somehow left this channelk
01:53 🔗 joepie91 channel *
01:53 🔗 joepie91 anyway, somebody's threatening to send their lawyers after me, lol
01:57 🔗 Rallias So you're getting blackmailed for bitcoins, lawyerbombed by retards, what's next... getting egged by british parlament?
02:02 🔗 balrog lol, what for now?
02:10 🔗 joepie91 Rallias: fuck if I know
02:10 🔗 joepie91 today is weird
02:10 🔗 joepie91 lol
02:10 🔗 joepie91 balrog: yadda yadda settlement reached, yadda yadda please remove document
02:10 🔗 balrog LOL
02:10 🔗 balrog that's not how it works
02:11 🔗 joepie91 yeah, nice try, but the docs from court clearly state that the DEFENDANT is responsible for getting content deleted
02:11 🔗 joepie91 not the plaintiff
02:11 🔗 joepie91 exactly
02:11 🔗 balrog isn't the document public record?
02:11 🔗 joepie91 I'm currently writing an email that says as much
02:12 🔗 joepie91 balrog: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?f5b08392112bfc54#MG8c+AssBbdKOZZGs2b0yRW51UG/ZZcdV6d18V22sZI=
02:12 🔗 joepie91 (10 min expiry)
02:13 🔗 joepie91 all rather amusing
02:14 🔗 garyrh oh lol
02:17 🔗 joepie91 bonus points for getting my first name wrong...
02:17 🔗 joepie91 >.>
02:18 🔗 Rallias Lulz.
02:19 🔗 Rallias Well... "sven" isn't a name an unintelligent american would realize is real.
03:08 🔗 joepie91 uh... what.
03:09 🔗 joepie91 bitcasa sent out an email to clients
03:09 🔗 joepie91 saying "we're extending the deadline for data removal to november 20 to give users with lots of data more time to migrate"
03:09 🔗 joepie91 apparently they don't even have the guts to upfront state that they were ordered to do so by a court
03:09 🔗 joepie91 fucking assholes
03:15 🔗 joepie91 .tw https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/534906547810607106
03:15 🔗 botpie91 Wow. Apparently #Bitcasa doesn't even have the decency to admit a court ordered them to retain data. Assholes. https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcasa/comments/2mabw4/less_than_14hours_and_24_minutes_left_until_they/cm3rgmf (@joepie91)
03:24 🔗 joepie91 "Bitcasa founder Tony Gauda is launching a new company called ThinAir with the tagline "Securing the world's data." I was going to come up with something funny to say but it's pretty much a joke within it's self considering Bitcasa's 3 weeks to cough up at the new 1000% price increase or all your files deleted ransom "
03:25 🔗 Rallias wait what?
03:27 🔗 aaaaaaaaa you know they are serious, they use all caps
03:37 🔗 closure securing in the classic "computer buried in concrete" sense, I assume
03:38 🔗 joepie91 hehehe
03:38 🔗 joepie91 closure: with HDDs that may or may not be infinite
03:39 🔗 joepie91 quantum infinity, even; as soon as you look at them, they may turn out to either be infinite or not infinite
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04:28 🔗 yipdw joepie91: I'm not sure I trust a company named ThinAir to secure anything
04:28 🔗 yipdw "oh, sorry, your stuff vanished...into ThinAir"
04:28 🔗 yipdw I mean seriously the pun potential is great
04:31 🔗 the_fox If you want to have a good time, get FoxReplace, set it to replace every instance of the word "cloud" to the word "butt", and go look up cloud storage solutions.
04:31 🔗 the_fox Flexible butt sizes to suit your needs!
04:32 🔗 the_fox All of your important things, in the butt!
04:33 🔗 Rallias http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EBN55YI/ <- My dad's christmas gift from me this year.
04:42 🔗 yipdw the_fox: try it on the AWS Management Console too
04:42 🔗 yipdw if you use cloudtobutt instead of foxreplace it works a bit better because cloudtobutt has more limited to scope and replaces "the cloud" with "my butt"
04:42 🔗 yipdw so you get e.g. "EC2: Virtual Servers in my Butt"
04:42 🔗 yipdw i have that on my work machine and my coworkers occasionally do double-takes
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04:47 🔗 the_fox Back when the NSA was all over the news, I had a rule to replace "NSA" with "FurAffinity".
04:49 🔗 the_fox Reddit, Mozilla, 4chan, Wikimedia Foundation among 83 organizations call on US Government to eliminate FurAffinity.
04:49 🔗 the_fox FurAffinity 'violates basic human rights' says Al Gore.
04:50 🔗 chfoo i had a browser script that replaced "keyboard" with "leopard" and i forgot to turn it off when i printed out a parts list for a new computer. luckily i forgot to include a keyboard on it.
04:51 🔗 the_fox I spilled tea on my leopard and it died :(
05:42 🔗 yipdw it is surprisingly difficult to do timezone-aware date arithmetic in javascript
05:43 🔗 yipdw like, let's say that you want to get ten evenly spaced points between times T1 and T2 where they're both in, say, EDT, where the points fall on nice boundaries (say start of the hour, start of day)
05:43 🔗 yipdw you can cast a Date to a Number but that gives you milliseconds in UTC, so you have to do messy adding and accounting to make it all work right
05:44 🔗 yipdw and i dunno how you'd even start to do this if you had to do it over timezone changes; pray I guess
05:46 🔗 yipdw huh, moment-timezone might work
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13:26 🔗 joepie91 [05:28] <yipdw> I mean seriously the pun potential is great
13:26 🔗 joepie91 hehehe exactly
13:27 🔗 joepie91 it almost puns itself
13:27 🔗 joepie91 and yes, `moment` will fix all your date/timezone issues
13:27 🔗 joepie91 it's magic in library form
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13:51 🔗 balrog joepie91: sorry missed that
13:51 🔗 joepie91 balrog: ?
13:51 🔗 balrog [21:11:20] <joepie91> I'm currently writing an email that says as much
13:51 🔗 balrog [21:12:23] <joepie91> balrog: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?f5b08392112bfc54#MG8c+AssBbdKOZZGs2b0yRW51UG/ZZcdV6d18V22sZI=
13:51 🔗 balrog [21:12:25] <joepie91> (10 min expiry)
13:51 🔗 balrog [21:13:07] <joepie91> all rather amusing
13:52 🔗 joepie91 oh
13:53 🔗 midas Paste does not exist, has expired or has been deleted. !!!
13:53 🔗 midas you didnt archive it ;)
13:53 🔗 midas (yes, with a reason i bet)
13:55 🔗 joepie91 midas: mhmm
13:55 🔗 joepie91 balrog: see PM
13:55 🔗 balrog yes I see
14:15 🔗 schbirid uhhhm, any idea if there is a torbooks successor for current german epubs? 8)
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14:33 🔗 godane looks like the torrent comments is closing on d-addicts.com
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16:18 🔗 DFJustin oh wow
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18:02 🔗 yipdw joepie91: yeah, moment/moment-timezone are good; my current problem is making it play nice with d3's time intervals
18:02 🔗 yipdw but that's more d3, less moment
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18:06 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: afaik moment exports JS date objects?
18:06 🔗 joepie91 and/or uses them as their prototype
18:06 🔗 joepie91 (so they should theoretically work out of the box)
18:07 🔗 yipdw joepie91: less a type/type coercion problem and more of a d3 interface problem
18:08 🔗 yipdw they do work out of the box, it's just that d3's time scale seems to end up treating them internally by coercing them to Number
18:08 🔗 yipdw which works fine but you get back milliseconds in UTC
18:08 🔗 yipdw that's fine if you're displaying UTC or browser local time but gets annoying when you want to display a time scale in some other TZ
18:08 🔗 yipdw mostly because the X-axis is off
18:09 🔗 joepie91 ah
18:09 🔗 yipdw the data is still in the right place, the X-axis labels are wrong :P
18:09 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: monkeypatch the object? :P
18:09 🔗 yipdw I wish
18:09 🔗 joepie91 that's rather... trivial in JS
18:10 🔗 joepie91 I think it's... valueOf? that d3 would be using
18:10 🔗 yipdw https://github.com/mbostock/d3/blob/master/src/time/scale.js is what I need to modify
18:10 🔗 yipdw specifically d3_time_scaleLocalMethods
18:10 🔗 yipdw as far as I know there is no way to monkeypatch fine-grained enough to modify the contents of a local variable in a module
18:11 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: for a quick hack, you could just monkeypatch valueOf on the moment object to return what d3 expects
18:11 🔗 joepie91 or whatever the func name is
18:11 🔗 yipdw I could, I'm not sure what that'd do to the graphing itself
18:11 🔗 joepie91 idk
18:11 🔗 yipdw the other course of action is to consider that so far client hasn't given a shit about this problem :P
18:12 🔗 yipdw because the target TZ and his browser TZ are usually 0 or 1 hours off
18:12 🔗 yipdw which I think I will do, bigger problems to solve first
18:12 🔗 joepie91 lol
18:12 🔗 Smiley so my desktop randomly rebooted and ican't figure out what called it :(
18:12 🔗 yipdw I thought it'd be not too bad a correction
18:12 🔗 yipdw turns out it touches some internal d3 stuff
18:12 🔗 yipdw so meh
18:13 🔗 yipdw unrelated, https://github.com/mbostock/d3/blob/master/src/time/scale.js#L37 is a crazy ternary
18:14 🔗 yipdw another possibility is that I fork d3 and just add what I need, adding moment as a dependency
18:14 🔗 yipdw hmm yeah might as well
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18:15 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Smiley: if you run windows, it might have been a reboot to install https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS14-068
18:15 🔗 Smiley nah linux
18:15 🔗 Smiley and it was a 'proper' reboot as apposed to randomly powering off
18:15 🔗 yipdw yeah fuck that patch, it ruined my Great Giana Sisters run last night
18:16 🔗 Smiley services all logged they were stopping correctly, yet i have no clue what called it D:
18:16 🔗 yipdw i was doing so well in Spooky Castle and then the game went to pause and then I saw "Windows needs to restart to install critical updates" and I was like WAT
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18:37 🔗 ivan`- Smiley: do you have unattended-upgrades installed and configured? could be that
18:37 🔗 ivan`- check all your /var/log/*
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19:10 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: https://www.npmjs.org/package/hyperboot
19:11 🔗 joepie91 cc everybody else concerned about archiving web apps, really
19:19 🔗 yipdw joepie91: huh
19:20 🔗 yipdw oh wait I see it's for single page apps
19:20 🔗 yipdw I couldn't figure out how you could apply that to existing apps
19:45 🔗 yipdw huh, Jolla's tablet uses an Intel quad-core processor
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19:46 🔗 yipdw what would that be, an Atom Z3740 or something
19:48 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: yes, the idea is that you have immutable versioning for single-page web applications
19:48 🔗 joepie91 and cacheing
19:48 🔗 yipdw joepie91: that seems a bit like a Couchapp
19:48 🔗 joepie91 thus making updating optional and so on
19:48 🔗 yipdw minus the immutability
19:48 🔗 joepie91 not sure I see the similarities between the two
19:49 🔗 joepie91 (also, couchapp is stack-specific)
19:49 🔗 yipdw it is
19:49 🔗 yipdw I see them as similar in that they're both ways to deliver practically distributable web apps
19:51 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: couchapp doesn't seem to do versioning?
19:51 🔗 joepie91 also its site is dead
19:51 🔗 joepie91 (the irony)
19:52 🔗 yipdw joepie91: it doesn't, which is one thing hyperboot adds
19:52 🔗 yipdw it versions insofar as couchdb does versioning but that's all
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20:42 🔗 Kazzy hour after my ticket goes in to crashplan, speed goes up 4x.. hmhm
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21:04 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: are you there?
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22:30 🔗 SketchCow I am.
22:30 🔗 SketchCow Sort of.
22:31 🔗 SketchCow I haven't fully checked the scrollback
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22:35 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: hold, PM
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23:57 🔗 joepie91 aaaaand then joepie was without internets

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