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03:02 🔗 espes__ sorted! https://archive.org/details/EmuWiki_Collection
03:03 🔗 espes__ hmm. a giant tar is kinda bad since there's no index and the contents view doesn't seem to get cached
03:11 🔗 espes__ also how do I make https://archive.org/details/acclaim_discs show up better?
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04:22 🔗 godane so i maybe able to grab kbs news clips from 2001
04:22 🔗 godane all cause of this post came up on google: http://cluster1.cafe.daum.net/_c21_/bbs_search_read?grpid=PqYA&fldid=4f5o&datanum=10&openArticle=true&docid=PqYA4f5o1020030523012744
04:23 🔗 godane they embed this link: mms://vod.kbs.co.kr/news/newstoday/2001/02/27/100.asf"
04:23 🔗 godane that google puts in plain text for search description
04:24 🔗 godane then i turn it into this: rtmpdump -R -r "rtmp://newsvod.kbs.co.kr:1935/news/_definst_/mp4:newstoday/2001/02/27/100.mp4" -o 20010227.mp4
04:38 🔗 joepie91 hm... where's the second Sony data dump?
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06:32 🔗 midas goodmorning
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06:44 🔗 godane midas: hey
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07:28 🔗 godane so looks like my kbs news grab from 2000 is 80 seconds per 1mb of data
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10:57 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: yipyipyip
11:00 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: seriously though, when you're here: you may want to look into Web Components (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqULJBBEVQE&feature=youtu.be) and Polymer (https://www.polymer-project.org/)
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13:09 🔗 w0rp Hmm, I had another insight on history, related to computer history. One thing might be the very original thing, but it might have absolutely nothing to do with how a thing progressed.
13:09 🔗 w0rp So you could say, "We made this first," but another party can very honestly say, "We never heard of you."
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15:59 🔗 schbirid oh holy fuck, new opera has no bookmark folders
15:59 🔗 schbirid there goes years of work
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16:07 🔗 joepie91 w0rp: also known as "why patents are fucking nonsense"
16:13 🔗 schbirid god i hate icon only gui
16:13 🔗 schbirid everything is terrible
16:13 🔗 schbirid someone launch the nukes
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16:18 🔗 arkiver I hate this Mr Cranky guy
16:19 🔗 arkiver I had a discussion soe time ago on the forums of IA with him and he just made me explode.
16:19 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/post/1027171/genealogy
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16:20 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/post/1019321/jeff-save-us-from-the-tweakers-please
16:22 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/post/1019197/whats-with-tweakers
16:22 🔗 arkiver https://archive.org/post/1019249/jeff-kaplan-please-help-tweakers-invasion
16:23 🔗 arkiver I did understand their first concerns, but the way they talked to me after that.
16:23 🔗 arkiver saying I was some computer generated robot and when I got a bit angry stating there might be something human in me
16:25 🔗 schbirid is that the banned kid?
16:26 🔗 arkiver I don't think that
16:26 🔗 arkiver he was waaay before that
16:26 🔗 arkiver that Mr Cranky, was way before the kid
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16:37 🔗 Jonimus schbirid: its a shame too because old opera was pretty rad, if only they could open source it or something.
16:37 🔗 schbirid yeah
16:38 🔗 schbirid the only piece of closed source i knowingly loved
16:48 🔗 Jonimus That said I'm too stuck in my Firefox ways to ever switch at this point, I don't know if I could live without tree style tabs any more.
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16:56 🔗 sep332 https://twitter.com/ryanprior/status/540905020984553472
16:56 🔗 sep332 Anyone grabbing notable vines right now?
16:56 🔗 sep332 or any Vines?
17:02 🔗 Start i've backed up jontron and both ashens accounts
17:02 🔗 Start haven't got around to uploading them to IA yet
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17:52 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: Please don't engage the people in the forums.
17:52 🔗 botpie91 SketchCow: 04 Dec 12:59Z <arb735> tell SketchCow I forgot to ask last night, does the wayback crawler have any ignores besides the robots.txt so we should keep a lookout for
17:52 🔗 SketchCow arb735: The wayback does not have any except possibly some legal thing even I won't be privvy to.
17:54 🔗 SketchCow ----------------------------------------------
17:54 🔗 SketchCow Don't engage people in the IA Forums.
17:54 🔗 SketchCow They don't understand archive team, and they
17:54 🔗 SketchCow are the crankiest, accusingest people
17:54 🔗 SketchCow in the entire world. You got me. You don't
17:54 🔗 SketchCow need them.
17:54 🔗 SketchCow ----------------------------------------------
17:55 🔗 midas that should be on the forums. "you guys are batshit crazy and dont like the rest of the world"
17:56 🔗 SketchCow No.
17:56 🔗 SketchCow NO.
17:56 🔗 SketchCow The forums are a bunch of very intense, very unpleasant people who all secretly want to work for the archive.
17:57 🔗 SketchCow And when anything upsets what they think is a special, good, don't-tell-anyone thing, they flip out.
17:57 🔗 SketchCow They worship my co-worker Jeff because he's the ONLY employee who talks to them.
17:57 🔗 SketchCow Do a search for "jscott" in there - nobody knows about me and they don't talk about me.
17:58 🔗 midas lol, you probably want to keep it like that
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17:59 🔗 SketchCow I DO.
17:59 🔗 SketchCow Which is why I don't want archive team members, which are literally these guys' living NIGHTMARE, engaging and debating with them.
17:59 🔗 midas haha
17:59 🔗 SketchCow Software has a forum, which was there before me. I never read it.
18:00 🔗 SketchCow Every time I'm asked about a major collection like arcade or CDs getting a forum, I go "nooooooo"
18:01 🔗 midas hm i might search for archiveteam on the forums
18:01 🔗 midas i wonder what happens to my brain
18:03 🔗 SketchCow It just makes me so annoyed to see people interacting with these folks.
18:04 🔗 SketchCow I watched them go after one of us when he was uploading a bunch of materials.
18:04 🔗 midas oh i wont interact, after reading this single line: "Those uploads of a few years ago were at least done by humans. If you examine the time stamps on the tweaker files (All Files :HTTPS) you will notice the minute by minute upload timing that occurs day and night. "
18:04 🔗 SketchCow And they didn't SPECULATE, they ASSUMED AND STARTED SCREAMING that he was OBVIOUSLY an agent of some television network, running a false flag of uploading piles of some show so they could rush in and shut the Internet Archive down.
18:05 🔗 SketchCow Not to come off as whatever, but I really changed some things at the archive
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18:05 🔗 SketchCow I would hope any employee coming into some place and spending some years there would have some influence
18:05 🔗 SketchCow But I'm jammed their intake like crazy, between archive team and helping people be able to add new material.
18:06 🔗 SketchCow This is why I did this 180 and my current priority is cleaning up the archive's stacks so that junk and unclassified good stuff isn't in some corner.
18:06 🔗 SketchCow When I started on Monday, "unfiled texts" had 560,000 items.
18:06 🔗 SketchCow It currently has 330,000.
18:06 🔗 midas thats impressive
18:06 🔗 SketchCow That's one week.
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18:07 🔗 SketchCow The key isn't just that I'm doing this cleanup, it's that I'm working with an internal tool that's being used for semi-effective spam control and I'm going to help make it able to classify and push various incoming large sets.
18:07 🔗 SketchCow And folkscanomy made a difference too.
18:07 🔗 SketchCow I found a guy who had uploaded 4,000 books and pamplets.
18:07 🔗 SketchCow Crazy, nasty stuff, too - anti-whatever you'd like.
18:07 🔗 midas also, you probably used some scripting. dont post it on the forum or you will be shot.
18:08 🔗 midas human intervention only and stuff
18:08 🔗 SketchCow I don't go on the forum.
18:08 🔗 midas ;)
18:08 🔗 midas just pulling your leg
18:08 🔗 SketchCow I really really avoid it.
18:08 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, don't do that.
18:08 🔗 SketchCow Someone tells you about a car accident that killed their family, don't occasionally go "honk honk"
18:08 🔗 SketchCow That thing is a horrorshow and I don't like having archive team members engage them on there.
18:09 🔗 SketchCow Because then they accuse, apparently arkiver took the bait, and then it's me and Jeff talking.
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18:12 🔗 SketchCow ----
18:13 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, I'm going to pass something to you nerds which you probably have, but which I found very useful.
18:13 🔗 SketchCow I needed treemapping. Treemapping works with someone like me who works visually a lot better than numerically.
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18:13 🔗 SketchCow https://developers.google.com/chart/interactive/docs/gallery/treemap
18:13 🔗 SketchCow I discovered google has a graphing api, and you can just take their code and shove in anything. That's how I made my contribution treemap.
18:15 🔗 midas hm thats cool, so you could create a treemap of any collection?
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18:17 🔗 SketchCow And I did.
18:17 🔗 SketchCow I can now see, in the open bins, who has contributed a ton of files, and how much of the total space they take.
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18:20 🔗 SketchCow For example, I now know the largest uploader in open, unsorted, uploaded 4,300 Romanian items.
18:21 🔗 SketchCow I found another one who did nothing but 3,000 Urdu-ish items.
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18:22 🔗 midas finding the diamonds in the rough? :)
18:22 🔗 SketchCow Diamonds in the dogshit, yes.
18:22 🔗 midas heh
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18:28 🔗 schbirid there is also a d3 treemap block that is fairly easy to hack for other data
18:28 🔗 schbirid kdirstat (or was it something else, some KDE thing) promised some import/export of treemaps but it never worked for me
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18:42 🔗 DFJustin 560,000 is already down a lot, I thought it was over 1 million before, guess spamsweep really did a number on it
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18:46 🔗 DFJustin my personal favourite ia forums guy is the one who was very upset that people keep uploading videos in arabic which he, personally, does not speak or understand
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18:49 🔗 SadDM So today's project is adding tables of contents to the descriptions of issues of Weird Tales.
18:50 🔗 SadDM Every once in a while you see a really wild name... like this: https://archive.org/stream/wt_1937_10#page/n99/mode/2up
18:50 🔗 SadDM I imagine that when he wasn't writing for the pulps, Mr Wellman was out in the bush wrestling bears.
18:52 🔗 SadDM Also, TIL that the author of Psycho (Robert Bloch) wrote for the pulps early in his career.
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19:31 🔗 kyan arb735: From what i've seen, Wayback does have ignores for websites that have made requests to be blocked, as well as those that have had legal threats made against them (e.g. xenu.net)
19:36 🔗 kyan i hope your not actually deleting those things with the spam removal tool? (the crazy pamphlets, and whatever)
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19:46 🔗 SketchCow Why would we delete crazy pamphlets
19:51 🔗 kyan political correctness or whatevre
19:51 🔗 SketchCow ha ha ha
19:51 🔗 SketchCow Is kyan new
19:51 🔗 kyan i've run across the attitude that, like, hate speech should be destroyed or wahtever
19:51 🔗 SketchCow ARE YOU NEW
19:51 🔗 kyan ish
19:51 🔗 SketchCow We don't even delete SPAM
19:51 🔗 kyan shown up on and off for a year or so
19:51 🔗 SketchCow We dark it
19:51 🔗 kyan cool! *so cool*
19:51 🔗 SketchCow Nothing leaves the archive, not a bit
19:52 🔗 kyan <3
19:52 🔗 schbirid whoa http://bellard.org/bpg/
19:52 🔗 SketchCow The only issue, which I'm addressing is 1. Getting "rid" of spam that tries to hide itself or which due to some of our search limitations, we don't find.
19:53 🔗 SketchCow And 2. Making it so our big "unsorted" bin is quickly and easily semi-classified into smaller, manageable bins
19:53 🔗 kyan nice :) the opensoruce collections are a little, umm, messy
19:54 🔗 SketchCow It was 500,000 items on monday
19:54 🔗 SketchCow It's friday and I got it to 360,000
19:54 🔗 SketchCow The laser's aimed at this problem. By 2015 you won't remember when it was this bad
19:56 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Like those scenes in movies where some kid will complain there is 250 items in it and the old guy will say "you think thats bad? I remember when..."
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20:02 🔗 SketchCow Well, we'll focus on other things.
20:02 🔗 SketchCow I'm just going to keep improving the shitpile in 2015.
20:03 🔗 SketchCow This is my primary goal at the archive for the year, I got this cleared, and I will just brutalize it
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22:40 🔗 Smiley hmmm
22:40 🔗 Smiley how did we access twitch streams again anyone?
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22:41 🔗 dashcloud I think there was a custom tool or something
22:42 🔗 dashcloud since it was a warrior project, the code should be available somewhere
22:46 🔗 Smiley yup hgot that
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23:15 🔗 godane i at least try my best to keep my shitpie neat
23:15 🔗 godane with tons of metadata and stuff
23:15 🔗 yipdw shitpie?
23:16 🔗 godane my collections of stuff i upload
23:16 🔗 yipdw oh
23:17 🔗 godane 2008 collection of radionz nine to noon mp3s is almost done
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23:29 🔗 kyan When files are deleted from IA via the item editor, are they deleted deleted, or hidden deleted?
23:30 🔗 SketchCow Nothing gets deleted
23:30 🔗 SketchCow godane: We fixed your shitpile by giving you a collection for an inbox.
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23:41 🔗 godane i know
23:42 🔗 godane btw i got access to asiatorrents.me
23:43 🔗 godane i'm grabbing 1 thur 38406 subtitle files
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