#archiveteam-bs 2015-01-06,Tue

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02:58 πŸ”— godane looks like glennbeck.com changed
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03:05 πŸ”— RedType glenn beck will never change
03:06 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa but didn't you hear, he was cured of his brain damage.
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07:55 πŸ”— godane so i just figured out how to grab all motherboard.vice.com pages
07:55 πŸ”— godane turns out there are article number urls i can grab
07:55 πŸ”— godane like this one: http://motherboard.vice.com/article/100
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11:10 πŸ”— Kazzy http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
11:19 πŸ”— Kazzy aaaand aborted
11:22 πŸ”— joepie91 Kazzy: dun boom?
11:23 πŸ”— Kazzy not sure what happened, they didn't say on stream
11:23 πŸ”— Kazzy or at least, I didn't hear it
11:23 πŸ”— joepie91 I can't help but be mildly amused by the fact that we're launching fucking rockets into space, and "lolweather" is what breaks everything down all the time
11:25 πŸ”— Kazzy problem was "some actuator drift"
11:25 πŸ”— Kazzy whatever that means..
11:25 πŸ”— joepie91 lol
11:25 πŸ”— joepie91 Kazzy: perhaps somebody botched the flux capacitor resonance
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11:30 πŸ”— Kazzy zzz, 5:09am friday is such a horrible time for me
11:30 πŸ”— joepie91 received letter from police; confirmation of receipt of my complaint...
11:30 πŸ”— joepie91 10-14 weeks starting now
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11:35 πŸ”— joepie91 fuck
11:35 πŸ”— joepie91 http://www.ifc0nfig.com/moonpig-vulnerability/
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11:36 πŸ”— raylee joepie91: yeah i saw that on /r/netsec
11:36 πŸ”— raylee i was like "...."
11:40 πŸ”— joepie91 raylee: what if I told you this is not unusual :(
11:41 πŸ”— raylee sounds about right..
11:41 πŸ”— raylee i'm currently interested in some kids tablte
11:41 πŸ”— raylee tablet*
11:42 πŸ”— joepie91 raylee: ?
11:42 πŸ”— raylee it uses android with a modded ui, but the previous models which used linux supported rom carts
11:42 πŸ”— raylee and the android one also supports such carts, but it only reads the header and if supported it says "go download the android app"
11:43 πŸ”— raylee the manual details a paid for kids social network or whatever, and from prior experience kids social networks = websec fails
11:43 πŸ”— raylee i'm also be interested in reversing some of the included apps
11:44 πŸ”— joepie91 raylee: this sounds bad all around
11:52 πŸ”— raylee yeah
11:53 πŸ”— raylee i joined a related freenode channel, the dumped roms are basically a header followed by an encrypted fat partition
11:53 πŸ”— raylee where the crypto is aes with a known common key that has been dumped
11:56 πŸ”— joepie91 I don't just mean security-wise, also conceptually :)
11:56 πŸ”— joepie91 idk, I'm just extremely skeptical of kids anything to do with tech
11:56 πŸ”— raylee yeah
11:56 πŸ”— joepie91 because it more often than not is some dirty marketing ploy
11:56 πŸ”— joepie91 of some sort
11:56 πŸ”— raylee the tablet hardware is probably bottom of the barrel stuff
12:01 πŸ”— Smiley lol
12:01 πŸ”— Smiley my child will have tech
12:01 πŸ”— Smiley it's stupid not to expose them to such
12:01 πŸ”— Smiley but a proper laptop, not some stupid toy one ;D
12:06 πŸ”— joepie91 Smiley: yeah, my issue isn't with kids and tech, but rather with *kids tech* specifically
12:06 πŸ”— joepie91 ie. tech that is supposedly tailored to kids
12:06 πŸ”— joepie91 practically all of it is exploitative in some manner, and that's concerning
12:06 πŸ”— joepie91 and that includes "free educational systems/licenses" programs, stuff like "kids tablets", and so on
12:07 πŸ”— joepie91 some legitimate kid-oriented tech exists, but it appears to be a minority..
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12:59 πŸ”— godane i'm getting to be able to get 1080i copy of Nothing Lasts Forever
12:59 πŸ”— godane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Lasts_Forever_%28film%29
12:59 πŸ”— godane it was never released
13:00 πŸ”— joepie91 godane: link me when uploaded? :P
13:01 πŸ”— godane ok
13:24 πŸ”— godane also know its over 8gb
13:28 πŸ”— joepie91 godane: pft, 8gb :P
13:30 πŸ”— Kazzy ooh, wikipedia reached their donation goal
13:30 πŸ”— Kazzy and i'm being thanked for it /o/
13:31 πŸ”— godane only saying its going to take me maybe over 2 hours
13:31 πŸ”— godane it was saying over 3 hours before i re checked it
14:16 πŸ”— midas i'd should try to get a job at OVH
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15:41 πŸ”— godane i would like other people to find more api options for url: http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_nv/api/media/getMobileVideo?videoId=51091146
15:41 πŸ”— godane you can get the mp4 files that way
15:42 πŸ”— godane but i want to see if anyone can just see about getting any other options from that api
15:42 πŸ”— godane or to find docs for it
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17:05 πŸ”— joepie91 SketchCow: we can be proper lawsuit buddies soon! somebody has threatened to initiate a lawsuit against me
17:11 πŸ”— * ersi high-fives joepie91
17:14 πŸ”— schbirid how many billions?
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91 no idea
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91 guy tried a copyright claim first
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91 then when I pointed out it seems to qualify as fair use, he went "well I'm just trying to protect my name"
17:14 πŸ”— joepie91 so effectively already indirectly admitting it was a frivolous claim
17:15 πŸ”— joepie91 and he has also failed to produce any evidence of defamation
17:15 πŸ”— joepie91 but
17:15 πŸ”— joepie91 "I am petitioning the court to remove the pdf's you refuse to remove this week."
17:15 πŸ”— joepie91 cc schbirid ersi
17:15 πŸ”— schbirid is his name chris peacock?
17:17 πŸ”— joepie91 schbirid: nope, avi roy dubitzky
17:17 πŸ”— joepie91 some self-styled "pedo hunter"
17:17 πŸ”— schbirid oh that IS a terrible name
17:17 πŸ”— schbirid :D
17:17 πŸ”— joepie91 and as far as I can tell, the document is critical of him and his practices
17:18 πŸ”— joepie91 (israeli guy, so that explains the name)
17:18 πŸ”— joepie91 (well, seems israeli anyway)
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18:51 πŸ”— ersi lol
18:51 πŸ”— ersi just don't talk to the retard
18:52 πŸ”— joepie91 ersi: bit hard when it's abusemail :P
18:54 πŸ”— ersi Nope
18:54 πŸ”— ersi It's only hard if you make it hard, like having some principle of handling all abuse mail and not considering deleting the mail as 'being handled'
18:54 πŸ”— ersi :)
19:00 πŸ”— joepie91 ersi: that stops working when your host starts complaining
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19:08 πŸ”— ersi and when they complain, I'd say I've answered him in a diligent way
19:08 πŸ”— ersi :D
19:09 πŸ”— joepie91 ersi: I try to run a serious operation.. :P
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19:40 πŸ”— ersi point being?
19:40 πŸ”— ersi :D
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22:09 πŸ”— kyan regarding electronicsandbooks: It's over 22TB according to the home page β€”Β is there a good way to get it into Wayback? It hardly seems like a job for the Archivebot, LOL
22:09 πŸ”— joepie91 pft
22:09 πŸ”— joepie91 just needs a bit of an infra upgrade!
22:09 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
22:10 πŸ”— kyan uhhhhh.
22:16 πŸ”— balrog kyan: it's over 22tb *and growing*
22:16 πŸ”— balrog and is on a home connection apparently
22:17 πŸ”— balrog so speeds vary wildly
22:17 πŸ”— balrog earlier it was unusably slow
22:17 πŸ”— balrog now I'm getting a reasonable 200 KB/s
22:17 πŸ”— balrog but it's jumping between 30 and 1500 KB/s
22:18 πŸ”— kyan Wait, doesn't archivebot push out partial WARCs as its going?
22:18 πŸ”— kyan So it might be possible to do big jobs
22:19 πŸ”— joepie91 balrog: basically, try getting into contact with him and arranging things
22:19 πŸ”— joepie91 and just let me know if you need me to play carrier pigeon
22:20 πŸ”— joepie91 I have 100mbit up at home, so it shouldn't be hard to upload it to a place
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22:42 πŸ”— * joepie91 waves at egg_
22:42 πŸ”— joepie91 said here earlier:
22:42 πŸ”— joepie91 [23:19] <joepie91> balrog: basically, try getting into contact with him and arranging things
22:42 πŸ”— joepie91 [23:19] <joepie91> and just let me know if you need me to play carrier pigeon
22:42 πŸ”— joepie91 [23:20] <joepie91> I have 100mbit up at home, so it shouldn't be hard to upload it to a place
22:43 πŸ”— egg_ the site mentions they are willing to send CDs, so I don't imagine they are adverse to any of this
22:43 πŸ”— balrog yeah but at a fee
22:43 πŸ”— egg_ I imagine it's not huge
22:44 πŸ”— egg_ burning CDs is annoyingly time consuming
22:46 πŸ”— joepie91 could very well just be S&H fee
22:47 πŸ”— balrog egg_: true that...
22:47 πŸ”— joepie91 balrog: might even be able to just convince him to buy a stack of harddrives, fill them up and ship them to me, if you can compensate the costs
22:48 πŸ”— joepie91 would probably cost, what, 10 euro to ship insured?
22:50 πŸ”— joepie91 mm
22:50 πŸ”— egg_ oh to have shipping that cheap.
22:51 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: heavy packages seem to have gotten cheaper recently in NL
22:51 πŸ”— joepie91 then again, NL is small
22:51 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
22:51 πŸ”— joepie91 you can cross the country in 3 hours, from north to south
22:51 πŸ”— joepie91 pretty much
22:51 πŸ”— egg_ in AU you're probably going to pay 30 euros to ship a hard drive to the next suburb.
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 balrog: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/316662/toshiba-dt01aca300-3tb.html
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 this is probably the cheapest option
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 so it'd still cost a bit under 800 euro worth of drives...
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 for the entire thing
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 22TB
22:52 πŸ”— egg_ are 3TB drives really the cheapest?
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 unless you want to ship back and forth in chunks, but idk if that's something he'd want to do
22:52 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: from a quick browse, seems like it
22:53 πŸ”— joepie91 I can look a bit further
22:53 πŸ”— joepie91 yeah
22:53 πŸ”— joepie91 cheapest 2TB is https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/257753/hitachi-deskstar-7k2000-2tb.html
22:53 πŸ”— joepie91 let me check 4TB, but those seemed pretty expensive
22:53 πŸ”— egg_ no, actually that gels with what I'm seeing here. bit of a gamble between 3 and 4TB being cheapest
22:53 πŸ”— joepie91 mmm
22:54 πŸ”— joepie91 cheapest 4TB is https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/400154/intenso-6513123-4tb.html
22:54 πŸ”— egg_ cheapest I can get in AU is 4TB seagate for 121 euros.
22:54 πŸ”— joepie91 ~130 euro here for 4TB
22:54 πŸ”— balrog joepie91: how are those new 8tb drives?
22:55 πŸ”— joepie91 vs ~95 euro for 3TB
22:55 πŸ”— joepie91 balrog: fuck, we have 8TB now?
22:55 πŸ”— egg_ balrog: holy pricetag
22:55 πŸ”— balrog yeah, seagate SMR based
22:55 πŸ”— balrog iirc around $260
22:55 πŸ”— balrog not hitachi helium
22:55 πŸ”— balrog those are $$$
22:55 πŸ”— egg_ 746 euros
22:55 πŸ”— snuffy 850 21 euros
22:55 πŸ”— egg_ who the hell would buy that thing
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/427020/seagate-archive-hdd-v2-st8000as0002-8tb.html
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 260 euro
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 8TB
22:56 πŸ”— balrog availability is sparse
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 so not really cheaper :P
22:56 πŸ”— balrog not really cheaper, no
22:56 πŸ”— egg_ might be cheaper to ship
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 also, "archive HDD" makes me a little iffy
22:56 πŸ”— egg_ more expensive drives but less of them
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: doubtful, we have very wide price brackets
22:56 πŸ”— joepie91 hold
22:56 πŸ”— balrog joepie91: the nature of SMR means it's slow to write
22:57 πŸ”— egg_ what's a WD purple drive? that's new too.
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: http://www.postnl.nl/versturen/pakket-versturen/tarieven/
22:57 πŸ”— balrog take a look at http://www.extremetech.com/computing/165972-seagate-uses-shingled-magnetic-recording-to-break-capacity-barrier-5tb-hdds-coming-in-2014
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: basically, anything 0-10kg is 8.60 euro with tracking
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 10-30kg is 14,90
22:57 πŸ”— Ravenloft joepie91 meet him in person, if he is ok with it, I am sure it would be a nice guy to chat
22:57 πŸ”— joepie91 so those few drives are not going to make a difference :P
22:57 πŸ”— egg_ joepie91: I'm so jealous of that
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: there's some pretty strict size restrictions, though :)
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 Ravenloft: idk if he would be
22:58 πŸ”— joepie91 he doesn't use his full name anywhere...
22:58 πŸ”— balrog joepie91: also maybe indoctrinate him on archive.org :)
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
22:59 πŸ”— balrog well considering what he's got uploaded there
22:59 πŸ”— egg_ I want to give examples. australia post suggests shipping a bottle of wine in an envelope :\
22:59 πŸ”— balrog I'm not surprised
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 but yeah, I'm fine with either
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 you figure it out, I'll play carrier pigeon and/or HDD-to-internets converter
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 egg_: hahaha
22:59 πŸ”— joepie91 helpful
23:01 πŸ”— joepie91 but yeah, cheapest option still seems to be 3TB drives..
23:05 πŸ”— egg_ I expected that by this point in time sneakernet would have been outdated.
23:06 πŸ”— joepie91 hehehe
23:07 πŸ”— joepie91 perhaps I should consider sleep...
23:14 πŸ”— joepie91 yeah, sleep seems like a pretty good idea
23:14 πŸ”— joepie91 night :P
23:21 πŸ”— balrog egg_: haha
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23:23 πŸ”— midas egg_: i can understand why, it cant fall on the floor anyway. aussies are up side down
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23:26 πŸ”— egg_ midas: australia post will break anything. I had some carefully mailed glass items destroyed because the delivery guy tried to put them through a letterbox.
23:26 πŸ”— BlueMaxim ‘ʇɐΙ₯Κ‡ Κ‡uǝsǝɹ I
23:26 πŸ”— midas logic
23:43 πŸ”— aaaaaaaaa That is why my family ships stuff in a cooler and, if it is really fragile, have the neighbor's kid scribble on the box in crayon.
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