#archiveteam-bs 2015-02-03,Tue

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02:34 🔗 yipdw " Why isn't archive.org distributed P2P at this point? Instant, massive, redundancy."
02:34 🔗 yipdw heh
02:35 🔗 SketchCow All the best Reddit comments are people being awful
02:35 🔗 yipdw that's HN, but same difference
02:35 🔗 SketchCow They are all awful
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02:55 🔗 dashcloud this project is rather nice, and it's good to see they are back for a second round: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/singularityco/save-the-sci-fi-the-next-generation
02:59 🔗 SketchCow Tried to get them to mirror stuff at archive.org. Nothin'
03:15 🔗 dashcloud that's a shame
03:22 🔗 balrog no response, or they don't want to?
03:26 🔗 dashcloud am I missing something, or is the ability to sort your uploads by views/downloads gone from the v2 beta?
03:30 🔗 SketchCow No, should be there
03:35 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: perhaps you should ask them to find a torrent for $old_obscure_thing
03:35 🔗 joepie91 that should kill that argument
03:36 🔗 joepie91 ahhh, it's a slightly different argument from what I thought
03:42 🔗 godane SketchCow: did you see my comment about the cbsnews.com-video items being put in the wrong collection?
03:42 🔗 SketchCow Yes
03:43 🔗 SketchCow a cleanup in my future
03:43 🔗 godane ok
03:43 🔗 godane i don't know what the heck happened there
03:43 🔗 joepie91 lots of stupid in that thread
03:43 🔗 joepie91 (predictably)
03:45 🔗 SketchCow As you might imagine, some fun stupidness is just kind of the general thing now
03:45 🔗 SketchCow For every archive.org thing lucky enough to get press, there's a 30% "I DO NOT GET THIS BUT I HAVE AN OPINION"
03:47 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: I think HN comes with a stupidity multiplier for these kind of things
03:47 🔗 joepie91 2x or so
03:48 🔗 joepie91 it's basically always "but how... copyright?!", "<random concatenated economic terms that have nothing to do with reality>", or "well who cares about the data really"
03:52 🔗 garyrh_ "This is dumb." -> "Pfft, I did this 5 years ago on a weekend."
03:53 🔗 SketchCow Always good stuff when I see "this is impossible" next to "this is easy as shot"
03:54 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: especially when the response to both is "yep, we've already done it"
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04:02 🔗 godane SketchCow: your going to be getting tuaw videos
04:02 🔗 godane its most likely going to be ftp to you
04:02 🔗 godane its already +40gb
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06:50 🔗 godane so i'm starting to think joystiq didn't really start using the youtube often until about 2012/2013
06:52 🔗 godane i only say that cause i'm getting wii u demos in the first 500 videos they uploaded to youtube
06:52 🔗 godane also looks like Joystiq Podcast will not get a full mirror
06:53 🔗 godane alot of it was mirror to a third part hosting called castfire
06:53 🔗 godane from what i can tell none of there mp3 urls work anymore
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12:52 🔗 godane i'm starting to uplaod koreanet-1_daegu_happy files i have from kbs
12:53 🔗 godane first one: https://archive.org/details/koreanet-1_daegu_happy-20070430
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18:41 🔗 xmc you're welcome!
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18:44 🔗 SketchCow EFNet: Getting Work Done
18:48 🔗 SketchCow Tax billllllll
18:48 🔗 SketchCow Writing blog entry, the first thing you do when you get a tax bill.
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18:54 🔗 yipdw first thing I do when I get tax info is don't pull it out of my mailbox
18:54 🔗 yipdw I have a theory that it goes away if I don't look at it
18:55 🔗 yipdw of course then I have to panic when it turns out that object permanance is a thing
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19:00 🔗 xmc :S
19:02 🔗 yipdw it's probably unhealthy, heh
19:11 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: this is not Minecraft, things don't despawn when you walk away from them
19:11 🔗 joepie91 :P
19:13 🔗 yipdw joepie91: WHAT
19:14 🔗 godane so i mirrored parentdish.co.uk as parentdisk.co.uk
19:15 🔗 godane i used the wrong url for the name of the web archive
19:20 🔗 schbirid woot, quake walnut creek discs arrived
19:20 🔗 schbirid time to rip
19:20 🔗 schbirid joepie91: save me googling, best way to rip plain isos on lunix?
19:21 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: dd
19:21 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: hold
19:21 🔗 RedType_ dd
19:21 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc
19:21 🔗 schbirid you showoff
19:21 🔗 joepie91 wrapper script that uses dd(rescue) or other tools whenever appropriate for the current kind of disc
19:21 🔗 joepie91 install deps, run script
19:21 🔗 joepie91 enter disc name
19:21 🔗 joepie91 hit enter
19:21 🔗 joepie91 wait
19:21 🔗 joepie91 done
19:21 🔗 schbirid cheers
19:22 🔗 joepie91 auto switches to bin/cue for multitrack :)
19:22 🔗 DFJustin nice
19:23 🔗 balrog we need something like DiscImageCreator for Linux :)
19:26 🔗 balrog joepie91: is using something like rubyripper useful for mixed cds?
19:26 🔗 balrog also cds should always be ripped as bin/cue
19:26 🔗 balrog multitrack or not
19:27 🔗 joepie91 balrog: hm?
19:29 🔗 balrog joepie91: which question?
19:29 🔗 balrog bin/cue captures data that a dd-rip misses
19:30 🔗 balrog like how the cd is laid out
19:31 🔗 schbirid :o
19:31 🔗 schbirid and there we go again into the hell hole that is CD ripping
19:31 🔗 balrog cd ripping sucks
19:32 🔗 schbirid can you point to some docs on the bincue vs iso? or write them. plllleeeease
19:32 🔗 joepie91 oh, missed the question
19:32 🔗 joepie91 I meant re
19:32 🔗 joepie91 [20:26] <balrog> also cds should always be ripped as bin/cue
19:33 🔗 joepie91 [20:26] <balrog> multitrack or not
19:33 🔗 joepie91 thing is, if it's single-track, what "layout" is there?
19:33 🔗 balrog it comes down to cue/bin storing toc and 2352 bytes per sector
19:33 🔗 joepie91 it's a single track
19:33 🔗 balrog stuff like gap though?
19:33 🔗 joepie91 [20:26] <balrog> joepie91: is using something like rubyripper useful for mixed cds?
19:33 🔗 joepie91 potentially, but only if you just want the audio
19:33 🔗 joepie91 ?
19:33 🔗 balrog doesn't rubyripper rip the audio portions more accurately?
19:34 🔗 joepie91 in theory
19:34 🔗 joepie91 balrog: hold on, busy for a bit
19:40 🔗 DFJustin if it's single track, mode 1, no copy protection, then iso has the same information as bin/cue and you can convert back and forth
19:41 🔗 DFJustin and that covers a high percentage of software cd-roms
19:42 🔗 schbirid http://i.imgur.com/UPLBMAK.png
19:42 🔗 schbirid eh, chromium does awful things to that image
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20:27 🔗 SketchCow I'm about to be handed a shell script that will dark an item
20:27 🔗 SketchCow Life is about to get much easier for me
20:28 🔗 ersi Hehe, understandable :D
20:28 🔗 balrog :P
20:30 🔗 schbirid everyone, backup your IA items!
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20:31 🔗 joepie91 now SketchCow will only need 1 nanosecond to deal with my darking requests instead of 2!
20:31 🔗 joepie91 :p
20:35 🔗 raylee haha
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20:37 🔗 joepie91 seriously
20:37 🔗 joepie91 I send them, and before I've even informed the person abusemailing me that the request has been passed on to IA
20:37 🔗 joepie91 it's already darked
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20:39 🔗 schbirid nice, watching the images from those old discs crashes geeqie
20:39 🔗 schbirid no better fuzzing than 1990s files eh?
20:39 🔗 joepie91 lol
20:40 🔗 schbirid All the Power of UNIX at 1% of the Price!
20:40 🔗 schbirid With Linux Slackware 96 your desktop PC
20:40 🔗 schbirid performs like a UNIX workstation!
20:41 🔗 joepie91 well, they were not wrong...
20:41 🔗 joepie91 :P
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20:43 🔗 xmc joepie91: what collection do pdf.yt uploads end up in?
20:47 🔗 xmc ah, i can just find it myself, i am doofus https://archive.org/details/pdfymirrors
20:47 🔗 joepie91 :)
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20:51 🔗 SketchCow joepie91: Would it be good or bad for me to run my keyworder against it?
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20:54 🔗 SketchCow Also, urge to dark out those spams is strong
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20:56 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: oh right, I was going to poke you about that
20:56 🔗 joepie91 hold
20:57 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: *Download No Survey.pdf
20:57 🔗 joepie91 all spam
20:57 🔗 joepie91 *Full Movie Online Free.pdf
20:57 🔗 joepie91 all spam
20:57 🔗 joepie91 (* denoting wildcard)
20:57 🔗 joepie91 I already nuked them on PDFy, but forgot to e-mail you about it
20:58 🔗 xmc probably anything "hack tool" too
20:58 🔗 joepie91 xmc: nono, that's too broad
20:58 🔗 xmc ok
20:58 🔗 joepie91 xmc: a bunch of people are PDF-izing forum threads
20:58 🔗 joepie91 I can see that being in a forum topic of some sort
20:58 🔗 xmc weird, but ok
20:58 🔗 joepie91 sure, but humans are weird :p
20:58 🔗 xmc exactly
20:59 🔗 xmc lots of the "hack tool" ones are "* hack tool download no survey"
20:59 🔗 joepie91 yeah
20:59 🔗 joepie91 those two queries should catch like 99% of it
20:59 🔗 joepie91 and there's 3 or 4 that don't match the pattern but are still spam
20:59 🔗 joepie91 iirc
20:59 🔗 joepie91 but those can be picked out manually pretty easily
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21:03 🔗 SketchCow 342 were *Download No Survey*
21:05 🔗 SketchCow Darking.
21:05 🔗 joepie91 sounds about right
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21:11 🔗 SketchCow 1,677 were "Full Movie Online Free"
21:11 🔗 SketchCow Things oin keyworder
21:11 🔗 SketchCow Thoughts on keyworder
21:11 🔗 xmc mmm, this looks much cleaner now
21:12 🔗 xmc "hack tool download.pdf" is a couple
21:14 🔗 SketchCow Darking is still happening
21:14 🔗 * joepie91 wonders if he now has 2k emails in his inbox saying "your item was darked"
21:14 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:14 🔗 xmc ah
21:15 🔗 SketchCow Quite a sexy collection, once you bang out the spam
21:16 🔗 SketchCow And then there's "The Vagina Ass of Lucifer Niggerbastard"
21:16 🔗 ersi haha
21:16 🔗 SketchCow Which is probably destined to be my epitath
21:17 🔗 xmc i KNEW you would point that out
21:17 🔗 SketchCow Well come on, it was right there
21:17 🔗 xmc yes
21:17 🔗 xmc yes it is
21:17 🔗 SketchCow When have you ever seen me pass up a vagina ass
21:17 🔗 ersi especially of Lucifer Niggerbastard
21:17 🔗 xmc tbh i've never seen you given the opportunity to
21:17 🔗 SketchCow Well, that's just the topping
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21:19 🔗 joepie91 let's just say that PDFy gets some... weird stuff
21:19 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:20 🔗 DFJustin iirc that's from some guy who sells ebooks on amazon with the most offensive titles possible just to get clicks/sales
21:21 🔗 SketchCow OK, I did the first round of this.
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21:21 🔗 DFJustin https://web.archive.org/web/20110323235034/http://www.amazon.com/Vagina-Ass-Lucifer-Niggerbastard/dp/1452868360
21:21 🔗 SketchCow Give it five minutes to settle like a good drink
21:22 🔗 SketchCow At the very least, we should be murdering all spam off the front of https://archive.org/details/pdfymirrors/v2
21:23 🔗 SketchCow Found 330 more
21:23 🔗 SketchCow That will make a huge difference
21:31 🔗 joepie91 uh oh
21:31 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: I found a broken
21:31 🔗 joepie91 https://archive.org/details/pdfy-9MwmH_nnJ4eOmL66
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21:39 🔗 SketchCow Just killed 900 people
21:45 🔗 joepie91 isn't it beautiful how much headlines tell you about a site
21:45 🔗 joepie91 http://i.imgur.com/gYjxDhf.png
21:46 🔗 joepie91 cc SketchCow
21:46 🔗 yipdw "Eero is a ridiculously named wifi router that will just make your neighbor's Wifi issues worse"
21:46 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: that's the upshot of it, yes
21:46 🔗 joepie91 lol
21:46 🔗 yipdw I say this as someone who has been having wifi trouble at work for the past two weeks so I may be biased
21:47 🔗 joepie91 it's the ultimate manifestation of startup douchebaggery
21:47 🔗 joepie91 "now! be the same dick to everybody else that we are to people!"
21:47 🔗 yipdw if we archive their stuff I wonder if we'll get free routers
21:47 🔗 joepie91 also, yipdw: your assessment is absolutely correct
21:47 🔗 joepie91 judging from the video
21:47 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t9vL34OV50
21:48 🔗 joepie91 also the part where they say "create a new network with your phone!"
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21:48 🔗 joepie91 I already hear the CVEs rolling off the stairs
21:48 🔗 joepie91 absolutely no things that could go wrong there. NONE WHATSOEVER.
21:48 🔗 yipdw "This is not a router"
21:49 🔗 yipdw heh
21:49 🔗 joepie91 "this is not ice cream. it's cold, made from milk, and it has the taste and structure of ice cream, but it's not ice cream."
21:49 🔗 joepie91 (this could probably be the slogan of ben & jerrys but that aside)
21:51 🔗 yipdw if this router also turns my lights on and off with cool rave music when it goes offline
21:51 🔗 yipdw I think that might balance it out
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21:56 🔗 joepie91 hehe
21:56 🔗 joepie91 ddwrt can probably do that
21:56 🔗 joepie91 :P
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22:04 🔗 joepie91 The mesh network is seen by your devices under a single name (no picking between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, for example), and it'll automatically hunt for the best frequencies and channels to cut out interference.
22:04 🔗 * joepie91 stares
22:04 🔗 joepie91 I.. what?
22:04 🔗 Smiley lets create interference to figure out where there isn't any!
22:04 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: what kind of bizarro router hardware do you use in the US?
22:04 🔗 joepie91 because practically every router here does exactly this
22:04 🔗 joepie91 every dualband router *
22:04 🔗 joepie91 (some better than others)
22:06 🔗 joepie91 reading http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/3/7969815/eero-wifi-better-router-network-box
22:06 🔗 joepie91 it's just surreal
22:06 🔗 joepie91 like
22:06 🔗 joepie91 "Today, "good enough" for most people means dealing with occasional buffering and a Wi-Fi network that falls short of the speeds written on the router box"
22:06 🔗 joepie91 THIS IS NOT A ROUTER ISSUE
22:06 🔗 joepie91 IT IS AN ISP ISSUE
22:06 🔗 joepie91 my god.
22:07 🔗 ersi yeah, with the US being a third world country and all
22:07 🔗 joepie91 internet-wise, it certainly seems like it
22:07 🔗 ersi yea
22:07 🔗 joepie91 if you have a reliable internet connection and no insane amount of spectrum-wide interference, then *any* modern router will get you the promised speeds
22:08 🔗 joepie91 if you have insane spectrum-wide interference, like I do here, no Eero is going to save you from that
22:08 🔗 joepie91 if the spectrum's congested, the spectrum's congested
22:08 🔗 joepie91 end of story
22:08 🔗 ersi I get like 3.4MB/s down over my AP
22:08 🔗 joepie91 ersi: pre-spectrum-wide-interference I could burst my full FttH speed (which was some 70/60 back then due to ISP being shit)
22:09 🔗 joepie91 over wifi
22:09 🔗 joepie91 so..
22:09 🔗 ersi well I don't think I'm using 802.11n or whatever
22:10 🔗 * joepie91 is
22:10 🔗 joepie91 well, was
22:10 🔗 joepie91 thing is
22:10 🔗 joepie91 if your device doesn't 802.11n, it doesn't 802.11n
22:10 🔗 joepie91 :P
22:10 🔗 joepie91 Eero or not...
22:11 🔗 joepie91 On the back are a couple of auto-sensing Gigabit ports that you can connect to your cable or DSL modem, plus one networked device. If you're wondering, gee, two ports seems kinda skimpy, well, Weaver (who's also Eero's CEO) says there's a reason for that. "We wanted the box as small as possible, so that's a limiting factor. But we also realized that even if you have four to five ports, you're always running out." Most people who have a lot of
22:11 🔗 joepie91 Ethernet devices end up buying a port switch anyway, he says.
22:11 🔗 joepie91 lol
22:11 🔗 joepie91 just lol
22:11 🔗 joepie91 "it's a feature, not a bug!"
22:11 🔗 Ctrl-S bastard needs hanging
22:11 🔗 botpie91 Ctrl-S: 30 Jan 15:31Z <joepie91> tell Ctrl-S [16:29] <DFJustin> Ctrl-S: you can upload the torrent file to https://archive.org/upload/ and archive.org will retrieve the contents
22:11 🔗 botpie91 Ctrl-S: 30 Jan 15:31Z <joepie91> tell Ctrl-S [16:30] <DFJustin> note that if they're huge like that you should only do one per item
22:12 🔗 Ctrl-S only two ports?
22:12 🔗 joepie91 yes, only two ports
22:12 🔗 joepie91 "And that's not all -- there's also a cloud component with the Eero, which means its software will get updated automatically. "If there's ever a security issue, we can update your router instantaneously," says Weaver. "
22:13 🔗 joepie91 I have yet to see something this box does that my fritzbox doesn't
22:13 🔗 Ctrl-S :I
22:13 🔗 Ctrl-S Have fun once someone breaks the update system security
22:13 🔗 Ctrl-S because you know they will all use a shared key
22:14 🔗 joepie91 Ctrl-S: you can also "create a network from your phone over bluetooth"
22:14 🔗 Ctrl-S it's only 2015, it's not like it's feasable to assign device specific ones
22:14 🔗 joepie91 [22:48] <joepie91> I already hear the CVEs rolling off the stairs
22:15 🔗 theChip the repeater induced latency is gonna be a bitch too when you get to the 3rd chained repeater, time slicing all the way down and then the weird mesh routing
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22:25 🔗 yipdw [16:04:27] <joepie91> yipdw: what kind of bizarro router hardware do you use in the US? <-- I have no idea, but my bouncer went totally offline there
22:25 🔗 joepie91 lol
22:25 🔗 joepie91 point in case I guess
22:25 🔗 joepie91 (or not :D)
22:25 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: good attempt at a fake pingout though :P
22:26 🔗 yipdw ha
22:26 🔗 yipdw it was real, the thing really went out
22:26 🔗 yipdw :P
22:26 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: then why does it prefix your quit message with Quit:
22:26 🔗 joepie91 :p
22:26 🔗 yipdw I have no idea
22:26 🔗 yipdw but the thing also lost connection to Freenode and its Twitter stream
22:27 🔗 joepie91 >.>
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22:28 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o underscor
22:50 🔗 SketchCow PDFy is MUCH better
22:52 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: neat :)
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23:26 🔗 joepie91 https://soundcloud.com/alexandr-zhelanov/deal-with-the-devil
23:43 🔗 winr4r when someone posts a soundcloud link i'm like "this had better be good, motherfucker"
23:43 🔗 winr4r in this case, it was
23:43 🔗 joepie91 :D
23:43 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: found the guy through opengameart
23:43 🔗 joepie91 apparently he releases his stuff under CC there
23:44 🔗 winr4r and a good man for doing that
23:48 🔗 joepie91 https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md
23:49 🔗 winr4r joepie91: that's cool
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