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are they claiming that those links infringe, or that they have exclusive rights to all those things? |
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winr5r |
oh, yeah, the former |
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Ctrl-S |
And they can do this without fear of legal repercussions |
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winr5r |
yes, you have to prove bad faith, not mere idiocy |
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Ctrl-S |
Like i could claim i own the rights to half of the internet archive |
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Ctrl-S |
and it'd only be perjury if i lied about who i am, no what i hold rights to |
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Ctrl-S |
Would ignoring a clearly erronious claim like that create liability? |
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SketchCow |
Yes, this is the place to discuss law |
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Ctrl-S |
-bs |
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Ctrl-S |
i am so tired, been up all night coding |
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godane |
SketchCow: i uploading more G4 Icons series |
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godane |
also looks like i'm getting a korean cartoon |
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godane |
this is part of the e_history_korea_StreamRoot_MH collection |
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xmc |
baby it's cold outside |
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xmc |
there's no kind of datasphere |
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yipdw |
Web ain't the kind of place to raise your kids |
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yipdw |
in fact, it's cold as hell |
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BlueMaxim |
http://www.funstock.co.uk/commodore-amiga-a-visual-commpendium-book-collectors-edition just came across this book and now I want it so goddamn bad |
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ex-parrot |
BlueMaxim: I have the C64 version, it's so good |
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ex-parrot |
thinking about getting the amiga one too |
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BlueMaxim |
ex-parrot, out of curiosity, if I wanted to dig into the c64 library, would just playing every game in the c64 book do the job? (I assume you know a lot about the c64) |
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ex-parrot |
everything in there is a classic pretty much |
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ex-parrot |
it'd certainly be a good start |
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BlueMaxim |
...a good start? A 200+ page book is a good start? how many goddamn games did the c64 have?! |
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DFJustin |
10,000+ iirc |
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BlueMaxim |
ain't nobody got time for that >___> |
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ex-parrot |
I've got an sd2iec hooked up to my SX-64 with a good few thousand D64s in it |
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ex-parrot |
most of 'em I've never heard of, ofcourse :) |
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DFJustin |
this isn't completely exhaustive but http://www.gamebase64.com/search.php?h=0 |
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BlueMaxim |
heeeeeesh |
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BlueMaxim |
how many of those games are worth playing though :P |
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BlueMaxim |
god I wanna buy both these books but it comes to $125 Australian ._. |
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yipdw |
C-apple: so we get to save ~50% on space while not losing indexability or seekability |
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yipdw |
that's the main reason |
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C-apple |
OK-- bzip2 is not as happy when it gets concatenated? |
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yipdw |
I don't know why bzip2 isn't used |
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yipdw |
warc.gz was present in IA when we started using WARCs so we just did that |
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C-apple |
Ah, OK. |
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C-apple |
So WARC is always concatenated gzips, or sometimes just one gzip with a WARC format inside? |
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yipdw |
a WARC file itself is a sequence of WARC records, which are plaintext |
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yipdw |
a warc.gz is typically a sequence of gzipped WARC records |
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yipdw |
a (solid) gzipped WARC can't really be indexed |
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yipdw |
the sequence-of-gzipped-records bit is important for indexing and seeking |
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C-apple |
OK. The WARC records contain the content and metadata, or the content is in other files that get gzipped with specific filenames too? (Maybe I should just be asking if there's a simple summary of WARC files instead of having to wade through the full spec.) |
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yipdw |
the full spec is probably the best place; the WARCs you'll find around here use most of the recod types |
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yipdw |
the bulk of most WARCs is a sequence of request and response records |
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yipdw |
they aren't necessarily interleaved |
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yipdw |
each request/response contains a WARC header that describes e.g. which response goes to which request, which requests are related |
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C-apple |
Ah, OK. And the content is in there somewhere even if it's binary, I assume. |
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yipdw |
yes, typically in the response |
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yipdw |
you can download a WARC and page through it to get an idea of the structure at a textual level |
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yipdw |
http://archive-access.sourceforge.net/warc/WARC_ISO_28500_final_draft%20v018%20Zentveld%20080618.doc is the latest ISO draft |
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C-apple |
.doc! |
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yipdw |
https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20150223210001/gist.github.com-shallow-20150223-102033-a85hd-00000.warc.gz is a smallish one |
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C-apple |
The things we do for love... |
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yipdw |
all ISO drafts I've seen are .docs |
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yipdw |
it must be some ISO thing |
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yipdw |
anyway, https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20150223210001 is the source collection for that WARC; you'll also see .os.cdx.gz, -meta.warc.gz, and -meta.warc.os.cdx.gz files with that same basename |
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C-apple |
From the institution that brought you OOXML as a standard. |
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yipdw |
.cdx.gz is a WARC index, which is generated by IA |
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yipdw |
-meta.warc.gz is generated by wpull |
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yipdw |
it contains information about the wpull job, like the wpull log, as a WARC |
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yipdw |
-meta.warc.os.cdx.gz is an index of the meta-WARC which so far isn't used by anything AFAIK |
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yipdw |
-meta.warc.gz is not required by any WARC standard but it is nice to have |
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C-apple |
What does wpull do for us vs. wget? |
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yipdw |
a few things: Python hooks, concurrent fetch, phantomjs integration, written in Python (often easier to read and maintain), has unit tests |
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yipdw |
database-as-URL queue |
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yipdw |
(wget maintains it in memory) |
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yipdw |
archivebot used to use wget+lua and now uses wpull for most of the above reasons |
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yipdw |
also wpull's maintainer hangs out here so that's a big point in its favor |
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C-apple |
Ah-- and wget still doesn't have a fast way to figure out where in the queue it left off, does it? |
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yipdw |
I don't know |
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C-apple |
OK, so we like wpull, and it will generate the .cdx files also? |
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yipdw |
wpull can generate a cdx but in current workflows a cdx is typically generated by the viewer program |
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yipdw |
wayback, pywb, warc-proxy, etc |
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C-apple |
OK, so as far as grabbing it, I wouldn't care much about .cdx? |
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probably not needed |
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Sanqui |
https://webrecorder.io/ is excellent! |
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Sanqui |
uploaded one of my warcs as a test, works really well; https://webrecorder.io/replay/20150205112919/http://puppylinux.ic.cz/ |
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Sanqui |
s/;/:/ |
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ersi |
neat |
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http://envisage-project.eu/proving-android-java-and-python-sorting-algorithm-is-broken-and-how-to-fix-it/ |
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so i got a german CD with Quake and other FPS files from 1996 off ebay. i have never seen it before. it is still wrapped. |
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Give me |
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so i just found the 1988 olympics was in south korea |
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i'm getting alots of videos about it |