#archiveteam-bs 2015-04-25,Sat

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03:25 🔗 Infreq heh... http://www.androidauthority.com/oh-no-they-didnt-a-giant-android-pees-on-apple-in-google-maps-603681/
03:27 🔗 touya openlibrary...
03:27 🔗 * touya goes back in his corner
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06:17 🔗 kyan Adventures trying to download a fan remix of a song found on Youtube: Youtube description mentions free download with bit.ly-obscured link. Link redirects to Soundcloud. Soundcloud links to Free Download through some website I haven't heard of. Link redirects to Facebook. Facebook then loads a blank page because it has javascript that I haven't whitelisted. Reloading with Javascript allowed, I get a huge list of tracks each with an e
06:17 🔗 kyan mbedded SoundCloud player. All of the Flash instances have slowed the browser to a crawl, and finally lock up the browser completely. Finally it loads, but by this point I've forgotten what made the remix worth listening to. Moral of the story: Please please please anyone reading this, if you post something online, for my sake avoid URL shorteners, Flash, and websites that don't make their data at least as accessible as the Internet
06:17 🔗 kyan Archive. That is all. </rant>
06:17 🔗 kyan Aagh, that was longer than I meant it to be...
06:22 🔗 godane SketchCow: this needs to be moved to all about android : https://archive.org/details/All_About_Android_13
06:23 🔗 godane its in the podcasts collection instead of the all about android collection
07:22 🔗 kyan This site about sites that died died, and so did the archives of it... http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=It_Died links to http://archiveteam.org/archives/itdied/ which is a 404
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07:23 🔗 kyan it's in Wayback though
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07:45 🔗 yipdw someone ought to propose and put up the money for a .onion gTLD just to fuck with Tor users
07:46 🔗 xmc hahahahaha
07:46 🔗 xmc you're terrible
07:46 🔗 xmc i like you
07:46 🔗 yipdw if I ever come across a spare $250k you know what to expect now
07:46 🔗 xmc that's a lot of money to consider surplus\
07:47 🔗 yipdw yeah
07:47 🔗 xmc but wait, isn't onion speculation illegal
07:47 🔗 xmc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_Futures_Act
07:47 🔗 yipdw I had no idea there was such a thing as the Onion Futures Act
07:47 🔗 xmc :D
07:47 🔗 yipdw #TheMoreYouKnow
07:47 🔗 xmc most people don't know
07:48 🔗 xmc in truth, most people don't know most things.
07:49 🔗 yipdw "By late 1955, they had stored 30,000,000 pounds (14,000,000 kg) of onions in Chicago"
07:49 🔗 yipdw wow
07:50 🔗 ersi tears my eyes
07:52 🔗 yipdw but yeah, I wonder how much you could get by, say, registering facebookcorewwwi.onion
07:52 🔗 yipdw how many people would know?
07:52 🔗 yipdw I guess that won't work if that's on Chrome's HSTS cheatsheet or something
07:54 🔗 ersi worst thing for commoners trying to register a gTLD is that the 250k$ application fee is lost if the application is denied :D
07:54 🔗 yipdw we should form a consortium or LLC or something
07:54 🔗 xmc "sorry, you didn't submit in triplicate with real carbon paper. this is carbonless paper, which we don't accept"
07:55 🔗 xmc "better luck next week"
07:55 🔗 yipdw "you're missing Form 27B-stroke-6"
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08:18 🔗 schbirid re my youtube feed whining the other day, they seem to work again
08:20 🔗 joepie91 [09:45] <yipdw> someone ought to propose and put up the money for a .onion gTLD just to fuck with Tor users
08:20 🔗 joepie91 afaik ICANN has a policy preventing exactly that kind of thing
08:20 🔗 joepie91 :P
08:20 🔗 ersi that said, they do like money
08:21 🔗 joepie91 ersi: well yes, that's the past where you don't get back your application fee :)
08:21 🔗 joepie91 part*
08:21 🔗 joepie91 (after failing that policy)
08:24 🔗 schbirid $ rm -rf rsnapshot/
08:24 🔗 schbirid worst backup tool i ever used...
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08:30 🔗 yipdw joepie91: yeah but policies were made to be subverted :P
08:31 🔗 joepie91 lol
08:32 🔗 joepie91 slight intervention for some NL news
08:32 🔗 joepie91 [10:30] <joepie91> goddamn
08:32 🔗 joepie91 [10:30] <joepie91> Dutch food safety inspection isn't fucking around
08:32 🔗 joepie91 [10:30] <joepie91> raided a company for falsifying information regarding horsemeat
08:32 🔗 joepie91 [10:31] <joepie91> seized administrative documents, vehicles, bank accounts, and a fucking house
08:32 🔗 joepie91 [10:31] <joepie91> also raided 15 other 'buildings' throughout the country for related false labelling, and arrested 3 people
08:33 🔗 joepie91 whoooooa
08:33 🔗 joepie91 a city in NL is apparently going to attempt basic income
08:34 🔗 ersi cool
08:34 🔗 joepie91 (Wageningen, specifically)
08:35 🔗 ersi Wageeningen
08:35 🔗 ersi cha-chingg
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08:37 🔗 * joepie91 hands ersi the tiny terrible-pun hat
08:37 🔗 joepie91 you've earned it.
08:37 🔗 joepie91 :P
08:45 🔗 joepie91 heh. npm has WTFPL-licensed dependencies
08:46 🔗 ersi I'm gonna need a bigger hat
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08:57 🔗 joepie91 webdev, a number of years ago: http://i.imgur.com/syp1gnI.png
08:58 🔗 joepie91 I don't miss it one bit
09:04 🔗 dan_ a friend just told me for their "intro to css" class the teacher has them trying to centre and colour some text without using css, just using tags
09:04 🔗 dan_ why
09:06 🔗 joepie91 exhibit A: why I actively discourage people from going to school/college/uni/whatever for dev stuff
09:06 🔗 joepie91 always the same shit
09:13 🔗 ersi WebDAV is still alive though
09:16 🔗 xmc that it is
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14:39 🔗 ivan` https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/33lmi9/disproving_infinite_or_unlimited_storage/
14:39 🔗 ivan` I'll find out soon enough for Google Drive
14:41 🔗 SketchCow Trying a thing!
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18:33 🔗 ivan` wayback is "Oops, something went wrong."ing everything
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18:50 🔗 bzc6p SketchCow
18:50 🔗 bzc6p There is a section on AT wiki FAQ page (http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FAQ#How_redundant_is_Archiveteam.3F) where there is some outdated information about backups of the archiveteam.org site itself. I'd like to update it, and for that, I have three questions, if you may answer.
18:50 🔗 bzc6p 1. Is the following paragraph true yet? "There are backups done by the hosting provider (several, going back days and weeks as well as hours), which use the storage capability of the shared hosting to keep them automatically (no tape or disk backups being done as most people would think of them). There are similarly copies of the database kept going back months."
18:50 🔗 bzc6p 2. The section also says the following: "Additionally, an XML dump of the Mediawiki database (which can be imported into any MediaWiki software) is accessible at http://www.archiveteam.org/dumps. New backups are currently pushed out once a week (and will be increased if changes on the site require it). All images are also wrapped into a images.tar.gz file". Now, the link gives 404. Shall I remove this piece of information, as I guess dumps are not ser
18:50 🔗 bzc6p ved anymore?
18:50 🔗 bzc6p 3. There is a link to an archive.org item with the wikidump from August 2011. But there is another item that contains newer, also 2013 and 2014 dumps (I'd like to give the link but I can't at the moment as archive.org is down). I guess I should link there from the wiki, as they are "official" backups, right?
18:50 🔗 bzc6p Thank you for your answers, I'm just trying to keep a piece of the wiki up to date.
18:51 🔗 xmc whoa bzc6p, irc and email are different
18:51 🔗 xmc for 2, if it's no longer true, then it probably shouldn't be listed as true on the wiki
18:52 🔗 xmc you could move it to a different part of the page with a section heading "previously" or whatever
18:52 🔗 xmc or you could delete it
18:52 🔗 bzc6p We are in "-bs", and the replies may be interesting for others as well
18:52 🔗 xmc for 3, yes.
18:52 🔗 bzc6p By the way – I've always wondered – what does bs stand for?
18:52 🔗 xmc bullshit
18:53 🔗 bzc6p Well, I'd have never guessed.
18:53 🔗 xmc hah :P
18:53 🔗 xmc i don't know anything about the hosting of that site, so i can't address 1
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18:53 🔗 bzc6p For the second, it may be just some misconfiguration, that's why I ask
18:54 🔗 bzc6p It is SketchCow who operates so he knows it the best.
18:54 🔗 bzc6p *operates it
18:54 🔗 xmc i was mostly talking about your question-asking style: dumping an email into irc minutes after you join is a strange way to engage
18:55 🔗 bzc6p Well, I found it a way to start a conversation, but next time I may not do so. Or not even ask,
18:55 🔗 bzc6p .
18:56 🔗 ersi well, it started a conversation
18:56 🔗 ersi so you're not wrong
18:57 🔗 xmc ha
18:59 🔗 ersi ^_^
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19:33 🔗 SketchCow whut
19:34 🔗 SketchCow xmc is right
19:34 🔗 xmc i try
19:34 🔗 SketchCow I have not roped back to wiki maintenance. I will probably share access and information with people.
19:34 🔗 joepie91 xmc: idk, works in some contexts
19:34 🔗 SketchCow So it can be better maintained.
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20:14 🔗 bzc6p Okay and sorry; I'll update the wiki as much as I can tomorrow when IA is back.
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