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anyone here knowledgeable in SQLAlchemy? |
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I'm trying to figure out how to use the JSON type for postgresql shown here http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/dialects/postgresql.html but i keep getting import and attribute errors |
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wait i think i finally figured it out |
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rubber duck debugging |
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I lack a duck |
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I should probably get one later |
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with a big sign reminding me to use it |
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a blinky sign that i can't forget |
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ersi |
we were the duck in this case |
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and that's fine, it's still rubber duck debugging though :) |
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Ctrl-S: make sure to use JSONB, not JSON |
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why? |
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Ctrl-S: JSONB is parsed on insertion |
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joepie91 |
which means any kind of lookup is much, much faster |
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as it is stored as a binary structure |
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rather than stored as text and parsed on every lookup |
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(as is the case for JSON) |
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you basically always want JSONB, unless you have JSON that is not fully spec-compliant (eg. the order of keys in an object matters) |
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okay, thanks |
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because the non-spec-compliant data is lost in JSONB |
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um |
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if i pass JSON in from an external source, i'd be better using JSON? |
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ATM i'm receiving JSON, json.loads()ing it, then reencoding after grabbing stuff from it and dumping that reencoded JSON |
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Ctrl-S: no |
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Ctrl-S: okay, so, according to the JSON spec, object keys are unordered - there is no guarantee that a parse and stringify will result in the same object key order |
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whereas arrays are ordered |
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*some* applications ignore this, and depend on object key order |
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so i'd only lose the ordering, not the keys themselves? |
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for those kind of applications, you need the original (string) data |
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correct |
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okay, that shouldn't be a problem |
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if you use a standard JSON implementation, always use JSONB |
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only use the JSON column type if you *explicitly* know that your data source is not spec-compliant |
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:) |
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this is Tumblr's API |
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(usually only a concern for embedded appliances) |
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okay |
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yeah, JSONB will be fine |
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joepie91 |
any REST API can be assumed to be spec-compliant |
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this is basically for mirroring blogs from the API |
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thanks for the advice |
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does anyone know how to grab periscope videos? |
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godane |
so looks like i can get c-span going back to 1990 |
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zenguy_pc |
godane: i never used it but judging from view-source:https://www.periscope.tv/w/VyEDnzE4MDcxNjB8Nzc3MjA3OOdHsrJMxrZl32h2RBOIQLoFnJSrVSw6ddZKiQhQv02C it may be only accessible from the mobile app |
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generating urls is pointless since they're so long .. somehow i think google indexed them but they blocked the results |
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re internet speeds, my connection at work https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDm1x02WoAE1MGF.png:orig |
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schbirid |
\o/ |
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xmc |
wooo |
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balrog |
schbirid: I give you this: https://files.app.net/jx7xnu037.png |
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balrog |
(also work) |
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schbirid |
:D |
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balrog |
it depends on server |
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balrog |
we peer with level3 and cogent |
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level3 is great; cogent *sucks* |
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i should check a traceroute tomorrow |
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balrog: such redaction |
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joepie91: what, you don't like that I cut out my ISP? |
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balrog |
or do you mean that it's not sufficient |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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was joking |
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balrog |
joepie91: well when your ISP and your employer are the one and the same ;-) |
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balrog |
then redacting makes sense |
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xmc |
heyyy balrog who's your isp |
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if you want to stay anon, sure |
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:p |
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balrog |
xmc: hahahahaha |
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godane |
so i found a way to grab cspan old videos |
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godane |
example code for rtmpdump: rtmpdump -r "rtmp://s1g3v4ljhhuslz.cloudfront.net:1935/cfx/st/" -a "cfx/st" -y "mp4:trimmed/full/012/12001-1/12001-1-MP4-STD_01.mp4" -o 12001-1-MP4-STD_01.flv |
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godane |
yes i know i'm insane |
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xmc |
we already knew that :P |
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godane |
thats good |
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godane: nice :) |
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i'm checking 1979 c-span schedule dates to see if there are any videos |
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how I hate rtmp, reminded me tha I have some rtmp work to do that i have been putting off |
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Boop |
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joepie91 |
ohai SketchCow |
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FOS is continuing efforts. Not having Halo for a few days will help. |
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godane: in regards to RTMP - one trick is to pretend to be a mobile device, more often than not an android phone will get an mp4 |
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wacky: "hi, I'm an iPad" is one of my favourites :) |
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amen |
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OK, I got a good one for you maniacs. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bW0v2F9Rgc |
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SketchCow |
This is boss Brewster, and his entire talk is "how much can we push the limit to get stuff on archive.org" |
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It's quite amazing he gave this speech. It's 40 minutes plus 20 minutes of incredulous questions |
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SketchCow: of the "wait... you can do _do_ that?" type? |
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It's just a worthwhile hour |
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I know some of you look for talks by me to watch; this is the boss going full out |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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SketchCow: that director is amazingly boring to listen to.. :/ |
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SketchCow |
Suck it up |
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:P |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA music video featuring Brewster Kahle |
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now we're talking |
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jesus christ on rollerskates https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/593529947538337797 |
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I really want those messages to look right in the window before it boots. |
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SketchCow: is there an ongoing effort for recording internet-streamed (regional) TV channels already? |
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Not that I know. |
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wacky: what rtmp work do you have to do? |
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i maybe able to help |
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