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dashcloud |
joepie91: I'm going to assume you have used Slack before, and understand why it's an awesome tool. Does your favorite Slack clone/ group-of-parts-that-form-a-whole have bitchin' mobile app, especially for iPhone & iPad? If not, that's a serious strike against it as soon as anyone wants to use a mobile device instead of a laptop for whatever reason |
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S[h]O[r]T |
hipchat is very nice too |
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ersi |
joepie91: Jeez, just cut them some Slack. Man. |
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ersi |
S[h]O[r]T: Hipchat is pretty much Crapchat IMO |
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S[h]O[r]T |
everyones opinion differs. how a company even works using skype to communicate has always been beyond me. but ive seen it done over and over again |
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ersi |
Depends on scale I guess |
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joepie91 |
S[h]O[r]T: Hipchat is bug bonanza (having used it) |
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joepie91 |
absolutely not a good choice if you want things to Just Work |
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joepie91 |
it should not take months to resolve a disappeared tray icon, nor weeks to make your notifications not steal focus |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: there are many alternatives, afaik some of them have iOS apps, but tbh that's becoming less and less relevant... there's a HTML push notification API now, which should presumably work on iOS also |
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joepie91 |
(ie. if it runs as a webapp, it's good enough) |
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S[h]O[r]T |
i use it every day, i agree there are dumb quirks and too many differences between things that work on mac but dont on windows and they dont seem to care to address the small bugs and when they do they arent fixed for good |
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joepie91 |
S[h]O[r]T: yeah, exactly that |
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S[h]O[r]T |
but i can get over that because for chatting and group interaction and the ease of use of mobile..it just works |
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joepie91 |
S[h]O[r]T: if you're going proprietary anyway, then something like Slack works a million times better |
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joepie91 |
and gives you the same ease of use |
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S[h]O[r]T |
things like on mac osx if i use smilies from an api call they show up but it just shows as text on windows |
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joepie91 |
Hipchat is hardly the only one offering this |
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joepie91 |
(though they're the only one with such a fantastically buggy product) |
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joepie91 |
(it seems) |
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S[h]O[r]T |
i think we had hipchat before per user pricing was a thing. we have been thinking about hipchat server now that thats out. since both slack and hipchat have been hacked 2x over |
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joepie91 |
S[h]O[r]T: random google gives me http://www.mattermost.org/ |
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joepie91 |
(rocket.chat is another one, but it's still in early stages) |
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ersi |
I find it highly ironic that the Hipchat guys (Atlassian) also makes a bug tracker (Jira). |
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ersi |
Maybe it isn't ironic now that I think about it, maybe it's just fitting. |
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joepie91 |
ersi: the only redeeming feature of Jira seems to be the amount of customization you can do... |
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joepie91 |
it's certainly not a thing I like using |
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ersi |
I think it's pretty safe to say that it's impossible to find a bug tracker that everyone likes using. |
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godane |
i'm uploading march 1990 of mbc newsdesk |
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SketchCow |
made it to the hotel, did not die |
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SketchCow |
I passed a car on its side, totally emgilfed in flames |
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SketchCow |
made me think of jp for some reason |
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vitzli |
like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r94gooSsCc ? |
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godane |
i'm grabbing CNN Cold War series |
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godane |
its very hard to find the complete set of original encoded files |
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godane |
http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Cold_War |
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godane |
there are only emule links to it |
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godane |
but i found a torrent of the full set |
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godane |
anyways i'm blind |
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godane |
turns out the torrent forum link was on the page |
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godane |
:P |
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schbirid |
gah, spin up retry error just as i meant to use that drive as single remaining backup for some data |
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schbirid |
i mean, i just noticed it, not sure when it happened. smart does not log timestamps, does it? |
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godane |
so i think you can just brute force blingee.com |
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godane |
example: http://blingee.com/blingee/view/43260485 |
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godane |
example: http://blingee.com/blingee/view/4326048 |
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garyrh |
yup, that's what we're doing. the ids are incremental. |
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arkiver |
godane: #tragedee |
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godane |
ok |
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godane |
i was just pointing out the ids |
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schbirid |
wtf https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/3h9vyk/look_what_i_found_in_a_dumpster/ |
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midas |
nice find |
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midas |
not jealous tho |
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midas |
that powerbill. |
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zhongfu |
wow |
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ersi |
dat bills |
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schbirid |
somehow cant believe MIT would throw that out |
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ersi |
if it's older than a few years, it's worth 0$ |
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ersi |
ie. written off |
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ersi |
Welcomez to the Biznizz wurld |
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schbirid |
yeah but surely some people would take it home or some requirement would prevent plain dumping? |
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ersi |
Wut? Like what? |
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ersi |
If it would be pure business, sure - they'd send the disks to the shredder |
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ersi |
but the chassi/machine would probably just be out on the loading bay regardless |
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midas |
schbirid: i have 2 MD1000's laying here, got them for free from employer |
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midas |
wont use them tho, they drain 500W each |
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midas |
30x2TB drives |
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schbirid |
according to wolframalpha that 0.6705 horsepowers per year |
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bentpins |
Or alternately 2 Donkey Power PY |
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schbirid |
http://www.factmag.com/2015/08/14/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-soundcloud/ |
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schbirid |
http://www.factmag.com/2015/07/27/soundcloud-is-reportedly-dangerously-low-on-cash/ |
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godane |
so i got tons of MBC Newsdesk to upload now |
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godane |
i got everything from 1990-04-11 to 1990-06-03 |
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midas |
maybe we should grab that schbirid |
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schbirid |
dont touch me |
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schbirid |
aaaah |
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midas |
\o/ |
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schbirid |
sorry, should have asked for permission first |
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midas |
:P |
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midas |
this is archiveteam schbirid |
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midas |
we ask permission after we grab |
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midas |
altho, dont do it AFK. |
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midas |
people might be scared :p |
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schbirid |
scarred |
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joepie91 |
http://fortune.com/2015/08/04/facebook-loan-approval-network/ |
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joepie91 |
"When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individualβs social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is rejected." |
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joepie91 |
extremely disturbing |
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garyrh |
ugh, that's awful |
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joepie91 |
garyrh: especially when you consider the larger social consequences |
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joepie91 |
because this doesn't just have moral issues, it has the potential to completely break down society |
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joepie91 |
because associating with people with debts has now become a dangerous thing for survival |
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joepie91 |
which means large-scale social isolation becomes very likely |
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schbirid |
and i just watched a talk the other day talking about income segregation which basically said that people are happier if they live in places with mixed income, from rich to poor |
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schbirid |
wait what that is a patent? lol |
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joepie91 |
yes... |
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RedType |
a bunch of personal finance companies were posturing about how much bullshit it is/was [disclaimer i work for one of them] |
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RedType |
nobody except for those who have drunk the social-network-all-the-things koolaide thinks it's a good idea |
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schbirid |
hm, patent link was http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=4&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=%28%28%22facebook%22.ASNM.%29+AND+%40PD%3E%3D20150804%3C%3D20151231%29&OS=AN/%22facebook%22+AND+ISD/8/4/2015-%3E12/31/2015&RS=%28AN/%22facebook%22+AND+ISD/20150804-%3E20151231%29 for me |
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schbirid |
which is also a hilariously bad patent |
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schbirid |
2012 |
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ersi |
joepie91: Well, then stay away from almost every Swede |
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:D |
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yipdw |
joepie91: well on the other hand this just means we need better ways to poison the well |
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yipdw |
"Oh, all your friends have a credit score of 836!" |
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schbirid |
good night |
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godane |
so this is odd |
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godane |
medium.com will not work on a proxy |
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godane |
but google.com does |
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https://narf-archive.com/pix/b0f2639d2dea8d2eacfdc9b49a6e565ca0894132.webm |
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