#archiveteam-bs 2015-08-17,Mon

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01:14 πŸ”— dashcloud joepie91: I'm going to assume you have used Slack before, and understand why it's an awesome tool. Does your favorite Slack clone/ group-of-parts-that-form-a-whole have bitchin' mobile app, especially for iPhone & iPad? If not, that's a serious strike against it as soon as anyone wants to use a mobile device instead of a laptop for whatever reason
01:35 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T hipchat is very nice too
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02:35 πŸ”— ersi joepie91: Jeez, just cut them some Slack. Man.
02:36 πŸ”— * ersi snickers
02:36 πŸ”— ersi S[h]O[r]T: Hipchat is pretty much Crapchat IMO
02:39 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T everyones opinion differs. how a company even works using skype to communicate has always been beyond me. but ive seen it done over and over again
02:40 πŸ”— ersi Depends on scale I guess
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03:16 πŸ”— joepie91 S[h]O[r]T: Hipchat is bug bonanza (having used it)
03:16 πŸ”— joepie91 absolutely not a good choice if you want things to Just Work
03:17 πŸ”— joepie91 it should not take months to resolve a disappeared tray icon, nor weeks to make your notifications not steal focus
03:17 πŸ”— joepie91 dashcloud: there are many alternatives, afaik some of them have iOS apps, but tbh that's becoming less and less relevant... there's a HTML push notification API now, which should presumably work on iOS also
03:18 πŸ”— joepie91 (ie. if it runs as a webapp, it's good enough)
03:18 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i use it every day, i agree there are dumb quirks and too many differences between things that work on mac but dont on windows and they dont seem to care to address the small bugs and when they do they arent fixed for good
03:18 πŸ”— joepie91 S[h]O[r]T: yeah, exactly that
03:18 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T but i can get over that because for chatting and group interaction and the ease of use of mobile..it just works
03:18 πŸ”— joepie91 S[h]O[r]T: if you're going proprietary anyway, then something like Slack works a million times better
03:18 πŸ”— joepie91 and gives you the same ease of use
03:18 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T things like on mac osx if i use smilies from an api call they show up but it just shows as text on windows
03:19 πŸ”— joepie91 Hipchat is hardly the only one offering this
03:19 πŸ”— joepie91 (though they're the only one with such a fantastically buggy product)
03:19 πŸ”— joepie91 (it seems)
03:19 πŸ”— S[h]O[r]T i think we had hipchat before per user pricing was a thing. we have been thinking about hipchat server now that thats out. since both slack and hipchat have been hacked 2x over
03:20 πŸ”— joepie91 S[h]O[r]T: random google gives me http://www.mattermost.org/
03:23 πŸ”— joepie91 (rocket.chat is another one, but it's still in early stages)
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04:43 πŸ”— ersi I find it highly ironic that the Hipchat guys (Atlassian) also makes a bug tracker (Jira).
04:43 πŸ”— ersi Maybe it isn't ironic now that I think about it, maybe it's just fitting.
04:47 πŸ”— joepie91 ersi: the only redeeming feature of Jira seems to be the amount of customization you can do...
04:47 πŸ”— joepie91 it's certainly not a thing I like using
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04:50 πŸ”— ersi I think it's pretty safe to say that it's impossible to find a bug tracker that everyone likes using.
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05:28 πŸ”— godane i'm uploading march 1990 of mbc newsdesk
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06:44 πŸ”— SketchCow made it to the hotel, did not die
06:45 πŸ”— SketchCow I passed a car on its side, totally emgilfed in flames
06:45 πŸ”— SketchCow made me think of jp for some reason
06:47 πŸ”— vitzli like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r94gooSsCc ?
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07:39 πŸ”— godane i'm grabbing CNN Cold War series
07:39 πŸ”— godane its very hard to find the complete set of original encoded files
07:41 πŸ”— godane http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Cold_War
07:41 πŸ”— godane there are only emule links to it
07:41 πŸ”— godane but i found a torrent of the full set
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07:50 πŸ”— godane anyways i'm blind
07:50 πŸ”— godane turns out the torrent forum link was on the page
07:50 πŸ”— godane :P
07:55 πŸ”— schbirid gah, spin up retry error just as i meant to use that drive as single remaining backup for some data
07:56 πŸ”— schbirid i mean, i just noticed it, not sure when it happened. smart does not log timestamps, does it?
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08:51 πŸ”— godane so i think you can just brute force blingee.com
08:51 πŸ”— godane example: http://blingee.com/blingee/view/43260485
08:51 πŸ”— godane example: http://blingee.com/blingee/view/4326048
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08:53 πŸ”— garyrh yup, that's what we're doing. the ids are incremental.
08:54 πŸ”— arkiver godane: #tragedee
08:55 πŸ”— godane ok
08:55 πŸ”— godane i was just pointing out the ids
09:08 πŸ”— schbirid wtf https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/3h9vyk/look_what_i_found_in_a_dumpster/
09:15 πŸ”— midas nice find
09:15 πŸ”— midas not jealous tho
09:15 πŸ”— midas that powerbill.
09:16 πŸ”— zhongfu wow
09:16 πŸ”— ersi dat bills
09:16 πŸ”— schbirid somehow cant believe MIT would throw that out
09:17 πŸ”— ersi if it's older than a few years, it's worth 0$
09:17 πŸ”— ersi ie. written off
09:17 πŸ”— ersi Welcomez to the Biznizz wurld
09:18 πŸ”— schbirid yeah but surely some people would take it home or some requirement would prevent plain dumping?
09:18 πŸ”— ersi Wut? Like what?
09:18 πŸ”— ersi If it would be pure business, sure - they'd send the disks to the shredder
09:18 πŸ”— ersi but the chassi/machine would probably just be out on the loading bay regardless
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10:03 πŸ”— midas schbirid: i have 2 MD1000's laying here, got them for free from employer
10:04 πŸ”— midas wont use them tho, they drain 500W each
10:04 πŸ”— midas 30x2TB drives
10:20 πŸ”— schbirid according to wolframalpha that 0.6705 horsepowers per year
11:01 πŸ”— bentpins Or alternately 2 Donkey Power PY
11:36 πŸ”— schbirid http://www.factmag.com/2015/08/14/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-soundcloud/
11:37 πŸ”— schbirid http://www.factmag.com/2015/07/27/soundcloud-is-reportedly-dangerously-low-on-cash/
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15:23 πŸ”— godane so i got tons of MBC Newsdesk to upload now
15:25 πŸ”— godane i got everything from 1990-04-11 to 1990-06-03
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16:55 πŸ”— midas maybe we should grab that schbirid
16:55 πŸ”— schbirid dont touch me
16:55 πŸ”— * midas grabs schbirid
16:56 πŸ”— schbirid aaaah
16:56 πŸ”— * schbirid hugs midas
16:56 πŸ”— midas \o/
16:59 πŸ”— schbirid sorry, should have asked for permission first
17:00 πŸ”— midas :P
17:01 πŸ”— midas this is archiveteam schbirid
17:01 πŸ”— midas we ask permission after we grab
17:01 πŸ”— midas altho, dont do it AFK.
17:01 πŸ”— midas people might be scared :p
17:09 πŸ”— schbirid scarred
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19:41 πŸ”— joepie91 http://fortune.com/2015/08/04/facebook-loan-approval-network/
19:41 πŸ”— joepie91 "When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is rejected."
19:41 πŸ”— joepie91 extremely disturbing
19:45 πŸ”— garyrh ugh, that's awful
19:45 πŸ”— joepie91 garyrh: especially when you consider the larger social consequences
19:45 πŸ”— joepie91 because this doesn't just have moral issues, it has the potential to completely break down society
19:46 πŸ”— joepie91 because associating with people with debts has now become a dangerous thing for survival
19:46 πŸ”— joepie91 which means large-scale social isolation becomes very likely
19:48 πŸ”— schbirid and i just watched a talk the other day talking about income segregation which basically said that people are happier if they live in places with mixed income, from rich to poor
19:50 πŸ”— schbirid wait what that is a patent? lol
19:51 πŸ”— joepie91 yes...
19:51 πŸ”— RedType a bunch of personal finance companies were posturing about how much bullshit it is/was [disclaimer i work for one of them]
19:52 πŸ”— RedType nobody except for those who have drunk the social-network-all-the-things koolaide thinks it's a good idea
19:54 πŸ”— schbirid hm, patent link was http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=4&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=%28%28%22facebook%22.ASNM.%29+AND+%40PD%3E%3D20150804%3C%3D20151231%29&OS=AN/%22facebook%22+AND+ISD/8/4/2015-%3E12/31/2015&RS=%28AN/%22facebook%22+AND+ISD/20150804-%3E20151231%29 for me
19:54 πŸ”— schbirid which is also a hilariously bad patent
19:54 πŸ”— schbirid 2012
20:02 πŸ”— ersi joepie91: Well, then stay away from almost every Swede
20:02 πŸ”— ersi :D
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20:03 πŸ”— yipdw joepie91: well on the other hand this just means we need better ways to poison the well
20:03 πŸ”— yipdw "Oh, all your friends have a credit score of 836!"
20:05 πŸ”— schbirid good night
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20:38 πŸ”— godane so this is odd
20:39 πŸ”— godane medium.com will not work on a proxy
20:39 πŸ”— godane but google.com does
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21:35 πŸ”— ersi https://narf-archive.com/pix/b0f2639d2dea8d2eacfdc9b49a6e565ca0894132.webm
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