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kyan |
wikipedia's fundraiser advert is drastically more annoying than IA's ... (maybe because I actually want to donate to IA, but oh well, whatever.) It's just so BIG. |
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kyan uses the element hider in uBlock Origin |
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ndiddy |
haha same |
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ndiddy |
but now there's a white box at the top of the page |
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joepie91 |
kyan: cornell's law thing has adopted the same kind of advert |
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joepie91 |
kyan: except it doesn't push the content down but overlays it |
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joepie91 |
because clearly the original wikipedia one wasn't annoying enough! |
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joepie91 |
jesus |
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joepie91 |
they also seem to have worked every dark pattern into it... |
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kyan |
ndiddy: Yeah, the box just went away when I scrolled down so it didn't really bother me |
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kyan |
white space is, just, meh |
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kyan |
could probably fix it easily enough with Stylish, though |
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ndiddy |
joepie91, you mean that they make it so it loads right when you click on something else? |
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joepie91 |
ndiddy: no, just on pageload |
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joepie91 |
immediate 50% screen real estate overlay |
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joepie91 |
no obvious way to close it |
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ndiddy |
except ublock :^) |
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joepie91 |
er, not 50 |
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joepie91 |
~33 |
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joepie91 |
ndiddy: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512 |
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joepie91 |
annoying as fuck |
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kyan |
I get a close button, that seems middling obvious |
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kyan |
I would first probably try clicking the article below the advert, though |
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kyan |
since often modal dialogs (e.g. in Windows) can be closed that way |
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JesseW |
joepie91: you don't find the large "X" in the upper right corner obvious enough? :-) |
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joepie91 |
kyan: the close button is shoved into the corner and not very clearly outlined |
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kyan |
and it's a larger click target than the close button |
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kyan |
Ok, fair enough |
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joepie91 |
are we looking at different versions? |
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joepie91 |
it's not exactly "large" |
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ndiddy |
and once you close it it doesn't pop up again (unlike wikipedia's) |
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joepie91 |
JesseW: http://i.imgur.com/1sU8Jmx.png |
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joepie91 |
I do not consider that "large" nor "obvious" |
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JesseW |
it's a square, whose sides are about the same as the height of the buttons (slightly smaller), in the same corner as the close box in many window managers. I'm not sure what isn't obvious or large about that, but YMMV. |
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joepie91 |
no obvious clickability cues - no underline, no button outline, the color is low-contrast compared to the other content, it is pushed towards the edge |
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joepie91 |
it's not even remotely the same height as the buttons |
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joepie91 |
half, if that |
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joepie91 |
go ahead ;) |
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ndiddy |
joepie91, i doubt that the cornell legal information institute is a "top site" |
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JesseW |
I agree about the lack of clickabilit cues, though |
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JesseW |
(sigh, spelling) |
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kyan |
joepie91: Here's mine: https://archive.org/download/ScreenShot20151201At23.27.23.52000.0500/Screen%20Shot%202015-12-01%20at%2023.27.23.52000.-0500.png |
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joepie91 |
JesseW: 38px vs 15px |
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kyan |
I think it's the same size, but it LOOKS bigger to me since I have a narrow and tall monitor |
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joepie91 |
measuring smallest buttons (one-time vs monthly) |
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kyan |
(at least I assume that's why) |
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joepie91 |
no, it is legitimately less than half the height of the button |
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JesseW |
thanks, saved me the time |
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kyan, what res? |
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kyan |
Probably on a PDA it would look even bigger |
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kyan |
ndiddy, 1280px wide by 1024px high, 5:4 |
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joepie91 |
I'm not quite certain yet whether this was intentionally designed to be annoying, or their designer just doesn't know what he's doing |
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kyan |
Also: I bet it would suck ass if it were being viewed on a high-DPI display |
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ndiddy |
oh yeah, i have a 1280x1024 monitor |
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joepie91 |
"hm, I think I see a pixel somewhere in the corner..." |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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joepie91 |
what's with you people all having such tiny screens :| |
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kyan |
mine's 19" with 1280x1024, but imagine that 15px light grey button on one of the retina 5k iMacs |
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kyan |
hashtag #aaargh |
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yipdw |
http://depot.ninjawedding.org/didsomeonesayhidpi.png |
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joepie91 hugs his 2x 1920x1080 and 1x 1920x1200 |
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joepie91 |
downside: I have a sun on my desk |
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joepie91 |
as in the bright shiny thing |
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yipdw |
it renders fine |
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* |
kyan doesn't like wide screen displays, since he edits documents in portrait monde |
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kyan |
*mode |
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joepie91 |
kyan: get a flippable screen! |
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joepie91 |
:) |
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yipdw |
rotate the screen 90 degrees |
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kyan |
I know, I have a perfectly rotatable monitor now |
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ndiddy 1600x1200 |
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joepie91 |
there's a bunch of full HD monitors that you can swivel/rotate on their stand |
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aaaaaaaaa |
I like widescreen, can put two documents side-by-side |
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kyan |
but it would be annoyingly shaped if it was widescreen / tallscreen |
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ndiddy |
my 1600x1200 monitor can be swiveled and rotated on its stand |
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joepie91 |
... mine included apparently, heh |
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aaaaaaaaa |
Really nice with the "snap" feature. |
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ndiddy |
it also has s video and composite inputs |
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yipdw |
g |
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joepie91 |
~~ |
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joepie91 |
oh well |
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kyan |
I like 4:3 or 5:4 |
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joepie91 |
I can't complain |
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joepie91 |
2 of my 3 monitors still run on VGA |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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kyan |
Mine's VGA/DVI |
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joepie91 |
only my newest 1920x1080 uses DVI |
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joepie91 |
because my new GPU only has one VGA port |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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kyan |
from what I know, the cool kids are all using DisplayPort and Thunderbolt |
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joepie91 |
so I had to buy a DVI monitor... |
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joepie91 |
... because of my new GPU... |
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joepie91 |
kyan: that's Apple-land |
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joepie91 |
I have exactly 0 Apple hardware |
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kyan |
The high-DPI version seems to work ok except for Chrome |
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kyan |
thunderp |
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kyan |
*Thunderbolt's Apple. DisplayPort's everyone though, right? |
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joepie91 |
displayport is Theoretically Everyone |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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joepie91 |
adoption has been.. lacking, to say the least |
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kyan |
"Dell was the first company to introduce a consumer product with a DisplayPort connector" |
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yipdw |
I see it a lot these days |
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kyan |
Oh, huh, it looks like my laptop is using mini display port |
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joepie91 |
I'm fairly okay with my current setup |
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kyan |
I didn't even know what that was, figured it was something funky apple since it's a MacBook |
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kyan |
(Looks like the only thing having trouble with that high-DPI setup in the screenshot is Chrome... LOL) |
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yipdw |
yes, Chrome has problems with hi-dpi on Linux |
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yipdw |
most things do |
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kyan |
OH FOR PUCK'S SAKE |
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kyan |
Moving my cursor up to close a Wikipedia tab makes ANOTHER advert showup |
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ndiddy |
right click and hide kiddo |
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kyan |
Already did XD |
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kyan |
(actually, Hamburger -> uBlock Origin -> eyedropper -> advert -> Pick |
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kyan |
) |
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kyan |
since I turned off all the right click options aside from the few I use all the time |
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kyan |
just to reduce clutter |
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ndiddy |
>hamburger |
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ndiddy |
why are you using chrome |
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kyan |
Firefox |
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kyan hates Chrome |
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04:45
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kyan |
heavily modded Firefox |
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ndiddy |
same diff these days :/\) |
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kyan |
Nope, I can hack on Firefox |
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04:45
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kyan |
make it do what I want |
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ndiddy |
not for long :^) https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/ |
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kyan |
Chrome's like, want to do something other than look at Google's ugly marketing UI? well sucks to be you |
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kyan |
I've heard. There's a petition about that on Change.org |
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kyan |
I hope it actually does something, but I kind of doubt it |
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ndiddy |
<kyan> Chrome's like, want to do something other than look at Google's ugly marketing UI? well sucks to be you |
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04:46
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ndiddy |
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222546 |
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ndiddy |
firefox is fixing that issue |
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kyan |
However, I hope that if Mozilla really does murder Firefox, there'll be a fork because FORK YOU MOZILLA |
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ndiddy |
you mean like pale moon |
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kyan |
I think so |
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ndiddy pale moon |
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joepie91 |
this news just in: Mozilla is screwing over its users |
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kyan |
Huh, looks interesting, but IDK why they stuck with the old UI |
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kyan |
I guess for old addons compatibility? |
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joepie91 |
and has been for a while |
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04:48
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ndiddy |
because australis is an inefficient meme |
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kyan |
huh? I don't even notice it, classic theme restorer and stylish took it all apart |
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kyan |
What I've got is still obscenely ugly since I'm not a good programmer, but it works for the most part |
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kyan |
and that's enough for me |
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kyan |
Neither of the default UIs (old or new) for Firefox really "worked" for me, inasmuch as being able to use them with a minimal to moderate amount of suffering |
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joepie91 |
I try Firefox again once a year or so |
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kyan |
both need customization with extreme prejudice, IMO |
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joepie91 |
then give up after it crashes along with all my tabs 5 hours later |
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ndiddy |
i liked the old ui because i could use the tiny menu addon to get the menu bar down to one button and then have all the navigation buttons on one toolbar |
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kyan |
...wow, how many tabs do you have open? |
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ndiddy |
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tiny-menu/ |
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kyan |
I regularly have 60-70 open and it only crashes every few days |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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joepie91 |
"only" |
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joepie91 |
kyan: I usually don't get beyond, say, 20-30 tabs open at any given time, but I browse rather intensively |
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joepie91 |
my middle mouse button is usually the first to break |
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joepie91 |
because I constantly open and close tabs |
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yipdw |
one of these days I am going to write a browser plugin that crowdsources tab reference times |
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kyan |
ndiddy: I'm half-stuck with the menu bar because of the Mac global menu |
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kyan |
except it can be hidden in the current OS X version |
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joepie91 |
kyan: for comparison: Chrome breaks once every two months or so. |
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joepie91 |
so frankly, Firefox just flat-out loses on the stability front |
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kyan |
Hah. Well, if Chrome didn't suck, I might use it |
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kyan |
I don't really need stability |
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joepie91 |
I do :) |
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kyan |
since it remembers my previous open tabs |
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kyan |
I just restart it and I'm golden |
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joepie91 |
state! |
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kyan |
much better than having to suffer through Chrome's unbearable UI |
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ndiddy |
oh yeah, did you hear that chrome's dropping support on 32 bit linux |
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yipdw |
dramatics |
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ndiddy |
makes sense because you can't use chrome with only 4 gigs of ram |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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joepie91 |
it's honestly not that bad |
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joepie91 |
Chrome doesn't _need_ all the RAM it uses |
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joepie91 |
it just uses it if it's available, because perf |
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joepie91 |
you can run Chrome on a low-RAM system relatively easily |
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joepie91 |
more easily than Firefox, even |
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kyan |
ndiddy: when I used Linux with a menu-per-window setup, I took Firefox down to the three menu items I wanted (View, History, Tools) and stuck it in the one toolbar with everything else (tabs, URL bar, navigation buttons) |
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kyan |
Quite possible, even using the Australis UI |
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joepie91 |
ndiddy: for a very long time, I had a Pentium III laptop as my portable dev system |
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joepie91 |
until some 2-3 years ago |
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joepie91 |
384MB RAM] |
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kyan |
For a menu button, I'd probably use the menu button option that's available in Crassic Theme restorer |
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joepie91 |
ran Geany, Chrome, Skype, Pidgin, Nettalk, the Puppy Linux audio player |
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kyan |
even though it's a little different from the real menus |
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joepie91 |
lighttpd + php + mysql |
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joepie91 |
bunch of other crap |
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joepie91 |
without issues |
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joepie91 |
my biggest problem was Flash |
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ndiddy |
if i had to run chrome on a p3 with 384 mb of ram i'd kill myself |
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aaaaaaaaa |
what DE? |
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: IceWM in Puppy Linux |
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ndiddy: it honestly wasn't a big issue. you're not going to open 20 tabs but it performed reasonably well |
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it was one of the last Pentium 3 models though |
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and if i ran chrome on a pentium 4 the processor would kill itself |
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ndiddy: as I said, Chrome takes what it can, not what it needs |
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well, Pentium 4 |
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I mean, those are practically space heaters anyway |
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ndiddy has a gx270 he uses as a space heater in the winter |
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ndiddy: still my favourite post I've read on a forum... somebody on bitcointalk: "I'll stop mining when my heater generates money for me" |
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I saw an article about people using specially designed computers as heaters in Europe and selling the number crunching. |
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i run boinc on the p4 to get that netburst going |
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uploaded: https://archive.org/details/worldbricks.com-download-id-1001-to-2000-20151201 |
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espes__ |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Studios#6th_pilot_season_.28November_5.2C_2015.29 |
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espes__ |
^ those 12 pilots are going to disappear in a month's time |
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espes__ |
and I think it's impossible to get a non-drm'd stream from amazon as of october -_- |
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espes__ |
do i have to go crack silverlight drm? D: |
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kyan |
If they use the amazon video on demand DRM, I think there's not really a good way to crack it short of a WARC for later attempts and a recording of the screen |
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AFAIK |
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well the former won't work assuming the key exchange has forward secrecy |
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espes__ |
i guess for this kinda stuff going forward you could like, save an execution trace using PANDA |
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espes__ |
(ftr this was the document to track down copies of the old pilots, a bunch are still lost: http://piratepad.net/e8FaqvIGRx) |
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<joepie91> I mean, those are practically space heaters anyway |
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Ne- i mean HeatBurst architecture! |
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i have 804 items waiting on that |
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https://archive.org/details/Sesame_Disco |
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godane |
also here is complete 1987 special of the Muppets Family Christmas: https://archive.org/details/Muppets_Family_Christmas_12-16-1987 |
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someone have time to help out this guy with old, seemingly obscure newsgroup backups? I would love to but really don't have the time until the end of january: https://lulz.net/furi/res/3303531.html#3303784 |
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..."Now the thing is, my stuff is all spread out among various media like 3.5" floppies, 4-GB hard drives, even Syquest and zip drive cartridges and would take SOME time to even begin to gather it together, especially since a lot of it is stored in places I've probably forgotten about. But it exists. And I can't believe I am the only other one who did that." |
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