#archiveteam-bs 2016-01-31,Sun

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00:02 🔗 MrRadar !ao https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
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05:33 🔗 godane so looks like Channel Awesome has videos dates all over the place
05:34 🔗 godane i say that cause i have one video for december 2015 when it should be all june/july 2015
05:48 🔗 vitzli probably reuploaded because of copyright issues
06:00 🔗 godane thats my guess
06:01 🔗 godane just that its weird to be in the same place before copyright claim
06:27 🔗 vitzli maybe it's 'created_date' and 'published_date' - it was created long ago and shows where it should be, but it was published today, for example, and it has today's date. Video may just show 'published' date instead of created. I think I saw stuff like this before, don't remember the channel though
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09:41 🔗 kyan joepie91, a few days ago in bed I think I figured out a solution to the puzzle. When I woke up the next morning, I couldn't remember it any more. -_- I'll keep thinking about it.
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10:18 🔗 espes___ i'm curious how the heck https://web.archive.org/web/20120406235634/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bwWcZ2Eg8 is available in the wayback
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10:23 🔗 kyan espes___, I think IA has a special setup for YouTube that they were crawling through tweeted video links, but I'm not sure if it's compatible with the ArchiveBot crawls
10:24 🔗 kyan Note that it's using JW Player rather than YouTube's player on that page
10:27 🔗 espes___ yeah but none of their other videos are available
10:27 🔗 espes___ lucky i guess
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12:20 🔗 SimpBrain i see this react situation wont blow over easily
12:25 🔗 SimpBrain omg they're losing subscribers to their videos https://akshatmittal.com/youtube-realtime/#!/TheFineBros
12:38 🔗 joepie91 SimpBrain: ?
12:39 🔗 SimpBrain https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43490c/the_fine_bros_from_youtube_are_now_attempting_to/
12:46 🔗 joepie91 aha
12:48 🔗 joepie91 SimpBrain: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43490c/the_fine_bros_from_youtube_are_now_attempting_to/czihefs
12:48 🔗 joepie91 :)
12:50 🔗 SimpBrain lol
12:51 🔗 godane i'm going after TheFineBros channel
12:52 🔗 godane or at least try too
12:55 🔗 Fletcher godane, looks like there's a bunch of secondary channels
12:55 🔗 SimpBrain subscriber count is on a downward trend
12:55 🔗 SimpBrain 4-5 per second now
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14:38 🔗 vitzli godane, are you using youtube-dl? could you please post your -f option?
14:41 🔗 godane i'm using -f webm
15:03 🔗 Fletcher is there any quality drop over the default? (bestvideo+bestaudio)
15:15 🔗 vitzli bestvideo+bestaudio tends to join mp4 and webm sometimes, at least in my experience
15:20 🔗 ivan` I patch my youtube-dl to avoid that but in rare cases it breaks
15:21 🔗 ivan` not sure if archiving .mkv's has downsides besides being unable to play back in a browser
15:23 🔗 schbirid mkv rules
15:23 🔗 schbirid webm is based on it btw
15:23 🔗 Fletcher ^ I got around the mismatch problem by just using mkv :P
15:25 🔗 ivan` https://github.com/ludios/youtube-dl/commits/prime I have all my weird format preferences in this pile of commits
15:26 🔗 ivan` prefer 60 fps over high res, no mixing mp4 and webm, opus over vorbis
15:27 🔗 ivan` my archiving operating is still screwed up because I'm not re-scanning for higher-res formats (sometimes they take many hours to appear for new videos)
15:29 🔗 vitzli bestvideo[ext=webm]+bestaudio[ext=webm] - would this be fine for archiving purposes?
15:30 🔗 ivan` vitzli: maybe? in some cases there might be a higher-res format but only in mp4
15:32 🔗 ivan` I think YouTube encodes higher-res webm's only after the video is relatively popular. unless they've changed that in recent months
15:35 🔗 ivan` e.g. youtube-dl -F L7e8tTfIJxg
15:35 🔗 ivan` highest-res mp4 is 136 mp4 1280x720 DASH video 2219k , avc1.4d401f, 30fps, video only, 49.02MiB
15:35 🔗 ivan` webm is 43 webm 640x360 medium , vorbis, vp8.0
15:40 🔗 Fletcher since youtube-dl defaults to mkv if it can't join the files could you just use the default and then process the mkvs afterwards?
15:45 🔗 vitzli you can make multiple formats in -f option, like -f 299+140/137+140/136+140/bestvideo+bestaudio/best - I did this for mp4s
15:45 🔗 vitzli order of preference
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23:08 🔗 HCross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Zr7c-J6qE for those in the REACT stupidity
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