#archiveteam-bs 2016-03-01,Tue

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00:03 πŸ”— dxrt SketchCow: Could I get this moved to web pretty please https://archive.org/details/www.tswf.com.au-2016-01-29-4b9f1792-00000.warc.gz
00:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Done
00:06 πŸ”— dxrt Thanks!
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01:05 πŸ”— snape You moΕΏt certainly can uΕΏe a long S at the beginning of a word; it was only preΕΏcribed at the end ther.
01:05 πŸ”— snape Thereof, I mean. Damn but my client doesn't like unicode, lol.
01:05 πŸ”— FalconK proscribed, perhaps
01:06 πŸ”— snape Anyway, the initial long S gives us the humorously-mispronounced ΕΏuccor :)
01:06 πŸ”— FalconK :)
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01:13 πŸ”— FalconK god tumblr's notes are worthless
01:14 πŸ”— FalconK a separate line for every single repost with basically 0 information content
01:14 πŸ”— xmc and if someone adds words they get clipped at like 80 characters
01:14 πŸ”— FalconK hahaha
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK wow
01:15 πŸ”— xmc or 40?
01:15 πŸ”— xmc not many
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK 477681tidwyxkioafgeg1gnk1 looks to be mired in note scrolling
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK http://mulder-are-you-suggesting.tumblr.com/notes/91675990871/aJgM9HqqN?from_c=1445509362
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK etc
01:15 πŸ”— xmc then add notumblrnotes
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK yeah.
01:15 πŸ”— xmc !igset 477681tidwyxkioafgeg1gnk1 notumblrnotes
01:15 πŸ”— xmc er oops
01:15 πŸ”— xmc w/e
01:15 πŸ”— FalconK lol
01:16 πŸ”— xmc though the notes link to other posts that reply to it
01:16 πŸ”— xmc so
01:16 πŸ”— * xmc shrug
01:20 πŸ”— FalconK as much as one can meaningfully reply in tumblr
01:20 πŸ”— FalconK but nobody does
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01:25 πŸ”— JW_work Anyone is always welcome to add notumblrnotes to any tumblr jobs that I (JesseW) started.
01:26 πŸ”— JW_work I don't like to put it on initially, as it's fine to get the notes for posts with only a hundred or so β€” but it's a waste of time to get all the notes for ones with tens of thousands
01:26 πŸ”— yipdw I like to see notumblrnotes as a last resort
01:26 πŸ”— yipdw grabbing all the notes should be feasible and it would be if not for technical problems
01:27 πŸ”— JW_work fair point
01:27 πŸ”— JW_work I just have a plenty big list of tumblrs I'm interested in archiving, and don't want to overwhelm archivebot
01:27 πŸ”— yipdw grab-site might work better honestly
01:27 πŸ”— FalconK it seems like the crawling algorithm will tend to get all the reasonable things more toward the beginning with the billion-long notes forming a long tail
01:27 πŸ”— JW_work grab site won't get them into the wayback machine
01:28 πŸ”— snape Not with that kind of an attitude it won't...
01:28 πŸ”— JW_work :-P
01:28 πŸ”— FalconK so policing them and adding notumblrnotes once they have only a few things left to fetch is probably a good strategy
01:28 πŸ”— FalconK if it's at-risk my impulse is to just add notumblrnotes straight up
01:28 πŸ”— FalconK since tumblrs can be long enough without
01:28 πŸ”— FalconK also those avatars...
01:29 πŸ”— JW_work the ones I add generally aren't at risk β€” just containing valuable material (or at least one valuable post someone linked to)
01:29 πŸ”— FalconK yipdw: yo check out job 7me1xyijiosr1fg3a8vhb2oep
01:30 πŸ”— FalconK it's having wild trouble RsyncUploading
01:30 πŸ”— JW_work in any case, this should probably go in #archivebot
01:30 πŸ”— yipdw yeah
01:30 πŸ”— yipdw I dunno what's wrong with that one
01:31 πŸ”— FalconK well 23 is "partial transfer due to error" so usually something like full disk on the remote end
01:31 πŸ”— FalconK (unlikely...)
01:31 πŸ”— snape For stuff that's really at risk, there's a tumblr archiving script on github I use sometimes. Can snag *the contents of* a thousand-post site in a minute or two. No WARC, sadly, but as an option of last resort, it's okay...
01:32 πŸ”— FalconK it's weird
01:33 πŸ”— FalconK for this tumblr I care about there are only ~16000 items in the queue so it should be fine
01:33 πŸ”— FalconK I'm surprised it's up this long
01:34 πŸ”— JW_work snape: please add a link to that to the wiki
01:34 πŸ”— snape Almost certain that's where I found it. Lemme go check...
01:34 πŸ”— FalconK I kind of wish one could add a filter like an ignore but "hang onto these URIs but get everything else before bothering with them"
01:35 πŸ”— snape Yeah, it's on the wiki already - https://github.com/bbolli/tumblr-utils/
01:36 πŸ”— FalconK to be used with, e.g., ^http.*\.media\.tumblr\.com/
01:36 πŸ”— JW_work ah, good
01:36 πŸ”— snape Yeah, it's be nice if there was a !defer regex thing to push stuff to the back of the queue for a job...
01:37 πŸ”— yipdw wpull goes breadth-first so you usually get that behavior anyway
01:44 πŸ”— FalconK with tumblr I see it pull, by breadth, 50-100 profile thumbnails, then one post, then another 50-100 profile thumbnails from that post...
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04:27 πŸ”— JesseW chfoo -- If you were willing/able to run a copy of ilya's https://github.com/ikreymer/pywb-ia on http://archive.fart.website -- I could make a PR to add links from pages in the archivebot viewer (e.g. http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/7yy80 ) to it, so people could verify that archivebot jobs worked out correctly:
04:30 πŸ”— yipdw that's a lot of disk space
04:31 πŸ”— yipdw AFAIK pywb requires the WARCs be local
04:31 πŸ”— yipdw has that changed?
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04:31 πŸ”— JesseW pywb-ia's /item/ method *doesn't* require the WARCs to be local.
04:32 πŸ”— JesseW https://github.com/ikreymer/pywb-ia#single-item-replay-item
04:32 πŸ”— JesseW "This will download the item .idx file locally on first use, and access the .cdx.gz and WARC remotely"
04:32 πŸ”— JesseW yipdw:
04:32 πŸ”— yipdw oh ok
04:44 πŸ”— yipdw https://twitter.com/isotrumpp is an amazing twitter account and I can't explain why
04:44 πŸ”— yipdw there's something about C++ with Trump that makes me laugh
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04:47 πŸ”— snape If someone (Sketchcow?) gets the chance, I'd love it if https://archive.org/details/29JanWARCs and https://archive.org/details/miscwarcs1 were set to "web" for eventual ingestion into the wayback machine
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06:16 πŸ”— chfoo JesseW: i'm not sure what you mean exactly
06:18 πŸ”— JesseW Let me try to clarify.
06:18 πŸ”— JesseW In the viewer (running on your server) each job has a page like this: http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/7yy80
06:21 πŸ”— JesseW If you (or someone else) ran a copy of pywb-ia, it could show the contents of the WARC for that job via a URL like this: http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/pywb-ia/item/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20150810080001/*/http://www.echoschildren.org/
06:22 πŸ”— JesseW with the archiveteam_archivebot_go_20150810080001 part populated from the item name and the http://www.echoschildren.org/ part populated from the job initial URL (both already displayed on the job page).
06:22 πŸ”— JesseW It would only download the CDX idx files locally (which are generally small) and load the rest on demand from IA.
06:23 πŸ”— chfoo oh, i understand now
06:23 πŸ”— JesseW cool
06:24 πŸ”— JesseW if you didn't want to run a copy yourself, someone could still write a bookmarklet to add links from the viewer to a copy running locally. I may do that.
06:24 πŸ”— chfoo yeah, i might be able to set that up
06:25 πŸ”— JesseW awesome!
06:26 πŸ”— JesseW The only problem I had setting it up was that on debian wheezy I had a slightly too old version of greenlet that wasn't required by the requirements.txt -- otherwise it installed like a charm.
06:29 πŸ”— JesseW Michael Karpeles (mek) from IA (ArchiveLab) is also glad to set up a copy of pywb-ia on archivelab.org -- so in that case there will be two. :-)
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06:42 πŸ”— Spring whoever scanned this musn't have been looking at what they were doing
06:42 πŸ”— Spring https://archive.org/stream/Another_Journal_by_Pett_02_Rylee/Another%20Journal%20by%20Pett%20%2802%29%20%28Rylee%29#page/n1/mode/2up
06:43 πŸ”— Spring slight 1940s-ish nudity warning. All the pages are cut off, it's odd.
06:44 πŸ”— Spring edit, I tell a lie! It was only the archive's viewer that was cropping them
06:44 πŸ”— Spring now I can see all the lettering (which is what I was there for believe it or not)
06:46 πŸ”— JesseW Spring: yes, that's a wart in the bookreader -- probably worth opening a bug for it if there isn't one already (IDK where the bugreporter is, though which is why I haven't done so myself yet)
06:47 πŸ”— JesseW why were you looking for the locations of a 1940s cheesecake publisher?
06:47 πŸ”— Spring :p
06:47 πŸ”— Spring for the lettering examples
06:48 πŸ”— Spring that is, the hand-drawn headings
06:50 πŸ”— JesseW Ah, "Pett's Corner" on that page? That is nice lettering, yeah.
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16:42 πŸ”— arkiver So many new tv channels are being recorded by IA!
16:43 πŸ”— MrRadar *sigh*, another day another SSL/TLS vulnerability: https://www.drownattack.com/
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16:46 πŸ”— slyphic sslv2 vuln
16:46 πŸ”— slyphic that's been on the shit list for, what, 2 years now?
16:47 πŸ”— MrRadar SSLv2 was known to be broken even in the 90s
16:47 πŸ”— slyphic no one that is keeping up to date should be effected, and the people that haven't were already wildly vulnerable
16:47 πŸ”— MrRadar What's new is that this is an attack that uses specially crafted SSLv2 connection attempts to figure out the key
16:47 πŸ”— slyphic we were discussing it in the office this morning
16:47 πŸ”— MrRadar Even for clients using TLS
16:48 πŸ”— slyphic OK, but who that isn't asleep at the wheel hasn't had sslv2 globally disabled for years now??
16:49 πŸ”— slyphic It seems like a non issue
16:49 πŸ”— slyphic "house that is on fire now flooded"
16:49 πŸ”— slyphic a non-news story
16:49 πŸ”— MrRadar https://www.drownattack.com/#faq-ssllabs
16:50 πŸ”— MrRadar Basically, if the key is used on any SSLv2 server (including mail servers which may be overlooked when updating TLS configuration) you are vulnerable
16:51 πŸ”— MrRadar And there was a recently-discovered OpenSSL bug where it would accept SSLv2 connections even if all SSLv2 ciphersuites were disabled
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17:17 πŸ”— arkiver Just sent mail to IA about recording the BVN TV channel
17:18 πŸ”— MrRadar Where is the list of channels they record?
17:19 πŸ”— arkiver There's no list
17:20 πŸ”— arkiver or every channel there's a collection
17:20 πŸ”— arkiver https://archive.org/details/tvarchive?and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22collection%22&sort=-publicdate
17:20 πŸ”— arkiver That are all collections in tvarchive
17:20 πŸ”— MrRadar Ah, thanks
17:20 πŸ”— arkiver scroll down and you'll see a lot of TV channel that started recording this year
17:20 πŸ”— arkiver around januari 2/7/14
17:24 πŸ”— xmc "january 2/7/14" ??? what does that mean
17:25 πŸ”— arkiver well, scroll down and you'll see the newly recorded channel on january 2, 7 and 14
17:26 πŸ”— xmc ah
17:26 πŸ”— xmc it looked like you were saying 2/7/14 as a date, which was very confusing
17:26 πŸ”— arkiver I see
17:26 πŸ”— arkiver should have written it different
17:27 πŸ”— * xmc shrug
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18:04 πŸ”— SketchCo1 I like the reasonable archive team members.
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18:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Today, I am so blisteringly angry again. Might be the diet.
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18:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Might be someone pissed me off (not here)
18:06 πŸ”— SimpBrain dieting is a bitch
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21:59 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: 2003 pages of telegraph.co.uk are archived
21:59 πŸ”— godane mostly anyways
22:00 πŸ”— godane looks like telegraph gives out random /404/404.html redirect pages
22:00 πŸ”— godane so i will have to go thur that and give you a retry on them
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23:08 πŸ”— dxrt Would it be possible to give FOS a bit of a kick? most of the AB pipelines are very backed up with WARCs due to slow rsync - and running out of disk space.. things will start get a bit funky soon.
23:32 πŸ”— dashcloud yipdw: did you find what you needed to track that corruption bug on Intel?
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