#archiveteam-bs 2017-03-23,Thu

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07:44 🔗 vitzli SketchCow, downloading, editing and uploading _scandata.xml files works for a simple user, item's bookreader got updated immediately, thumbnail - some time later (after the derive was done)
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07:58 🔗 JAA Sanqui, SketchCow: I would recommend simp_le over Certbot. Although the latter is probably a bit easier to use (as in: just run a command, set up a cron job, and forget about it), it must be run as root and modifies the web server's configuration files.
07:59 🔗 JAA It's also a very complex program, meaning it's a very painful task to verify that it's doing what it claims it's doing.
08:00 🔗 Sanqui also an option. Personally I trust LE and EFF.
08:00 🔗 JAA simp_le is a little bit more complicated to set up, but it's still only a few steps. It can run as any user, which needs to have sudo privileges to reload the web server. Otherwise, it can be run entirely isolated.
08:08 🔗 JAA Yeah, I don't think that LE or EFF are doing anything funky, but I prefer having control over the process and not unnecessarily running stuff as root.
08:10 🔗 JAA Note, the original simp_le by koba is broken and unmaintained. Here's an active fork: https://github.com/zenhack/simp_le
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13:39 🔗 SketchCow vitzli: I'm surprised to hear it but happy it is the case.
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15:40 🔗 midas joepie91: the drupal soap is real
15:52 🔗 godane SketchCow: your getting a special Toys R Us catalog
15:52 🔗 godane from japan in 1998
15:54 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/Toys-R-Us-Japan-1998-Holiday-Catalog
16:02 🔗 joepie91 FYI: Sixxs shutting down
16:02 🔗 joepie91 https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/
16:13 🔗 xmc SketchCow: i'm still interested in any scandata.xml docs you can drop on me, btw
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16:57 🔗 zino Do we have a sanctioned way of archiving youtube channels? I continuously archive several for my own personal use with youtube-sync, but that only stores the videos, no meta-data besides title and or no comments.
16:57 🔗 zino Re: JAAs comment in #archiveteam about SourceFed shutting down.
17:04 🔗 PurpleSym Wrt youtube: What happened to videobot?
17:21 🔗 arkiver videobot supports twitter and periscope
17:21 🔗 arkiver not yet youtube
17:21 🔗 arkiver I really need to get on with adding youtube
17:21 🔗 arkiver #videobot
17:21 🔗 arkiver can archive single twitter videos, full twitter accounts, periscope videos
17:22 🔗 arkiver also hashtags
17:22 🔗 arkiver all videos will be uploaded as individual video items to the videobot collection on IA
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18:16 🔗 rocode JAA, it looks like mininova changed since I last visited it. How much data are we talking here if we grab the stuff that they are single seeder on?
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18:29 🔗 JAA rocode: here comes a rough estimate...
18:30 🔗 JAA Of the ~13k music torrents, ~2k have 2+ seeders. For the Games > Windows category, a bit less than ~5k of ~43k have 2+ seeders.
18:30 🔗 JAA As an upper estimate, let's say that 10% are seeded sufficiently, i.e. 90% would need to be archived.
18:31 🔗 JAA The median size for Music torrents from a random page (200 torrents) is 55 MiB.
18:31 🔗 JAA The games are much smaller it seems.
18:31 🔗 JAA Let's say 40 MiB on average.
18:32 🔗 JAA That would be 90% * 72k torrents * 40 MiB/torrent = 2.6 TiB
18:33 🔗 JAA Which actually doesn't seem that big. Not sure how I ended up with the two-digit TB estimate earlier.
18:34 🔗 JAA If 90% is single-seeded anyway, might as well grab everything for 2.9 TiB total.
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18:38 🔗 JAA Average size for games seems to be on the order of 3-5 MiB.
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20:33 🔗 JAA Mininova status so far: INFO Duration: 23:24:44. Speed: 11.1 KiB/s. INFO Downloaded: 55196 files, 746.4 MiB.
20:33 🔗 JAA Probably not going to finish in time at this rate, decreasing --wait a bit again
20:47 🔗 tammy_ window merge
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20:54 🔗 JAA Shit, I forgot --warc-append. :-(
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22:31 🔗 godane so i think this close to what IA wants for the internet: https://github.com/lbryio/lbry
22:33 🔗 pizzaiolo SketchCow criticized it briefly but I'd like to hear more on why they're scummy
22:33 🔗 godane i'm just found out about it again
22:34 🔗 godane i don't remember seeing it before
22:34 🔗 godane main website: https://lbry.io/
22:38 🔗 Sanqui ipfs does it better.
22:39 🔗 Sanqui some words from a friend: "Just because blockchains are the in thing right now does not make them suited to everything." "The transfer model is rather crude - non-resumable, single-source downloads. No chunking." "It's luring people in with 'make money by publishing stuff.'"
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23:06 🔗 joepie91 Sanqui: obligatory: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/e49d2bdc9dfec4adc9da8a8434fd029b
23:06 🔗 joepie91 also, no amount of blockchainery is going to give you assurances about data integrity
23:12 🔗 Sanqui joepie91: nice, thanks
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