#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-25,Sat

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02:27 πŸ”— arkiver codeplex is full of POSTs
02:27 πŸ”— arkiver it will not playback well in the wayback machine because of that
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05:09 πŸ”— n00b396 Hi
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10:48 πŸ”— godane so i'm capturing another tape
11:00 πŸ”— schbirid godane: congrats on reaching your patreon goal! time to set a new limit? :))
11:00 πŸ”— godane i was think that
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11:02 πŸ”— godane so i got another dollar
11:09 πŸ”— godane i just added a new goal
11:09 πŸ”— godane as reads: This goal is just to make sure i have money for equipment vhs capturing and hard drives when i needed them.
11:10 πŸ”— godane cause sometime equipment fails on you
11:14 πŸ”— schbirid nice :)
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14:18 πŸ”— JAA I *hate* network debugging.
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14:26 πŸ”— Igloo I do it as my day job JAA
14:27 πŸ”— Igloo Whassup?
14:30 πŸ”— JAA Igloo: Trying to figure out why I don't receive any response when sending DNS queries over TCP using Python. It works with dig.
14:32 πŸ”— Igloo Oh, That kind of networking "fun"
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15:01 πŸ”— schbirid that makes me wonder if there is a super smart diff tool for packet capture sequences
15:02 πŸ”— JAA Igloo: Yep, I'm definitely having fun here.
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15:57 πŸ”— JAA I'm learning a lot about TCP and IP today. It's too bad I don't want to have to learn this right now.
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17:27 πŸ”— odemg https://www.reddit.com/r/opendirectories/comments/7fgknu/scifi_cult_horror_fantasy_film_and_fiction_zines/
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18:23 πŸ”— PurpleSym So, I was under the impression ArchiveBot used seesaw-kit under the hood (that is for job distribution). But apparently it directly connects to a Redis DB.
18:28 πŸ”— PurpleSym I’m not sure how to fit the Chrome-based crawler into that setup. (Should I even try?)
18:35 πŸ”— JAA It does use seesaw. The job retrieval is implemented as a seesaw task. But it also connects directly to the Redis DB for some things (settings, logs, etc.).
18:37 πŸ”— JAA (The job retrieval task connects to the DB as well, obviously, but that would be irrelevant to the scraper itself.)
18:38 πŸ”— PurpleSym You’re right, it is a seesaw task. But that task seems to be specific to archivebot and not a generic seesaw routine.
18:39 πŸ”— PurpleSym (I was hoping for β€œplug and play”.)
18:40 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, but the job retrieval isn't really relevant to the crawler. It uses a normal WgetDownload task for launching wpull.
18:40 πŸ”— JAA But yes, the crawler would need to be able to communicate to the DB as well for settings, ignores, !aborts, etc.
18:45 πŸ”— PurpleSym Alright, that means ArchiveBot spawn wpull with a special plugin doing these things?
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19:31 πŸ”— JAA PurpleSym: Yes, I think so.
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22:39 πŸ”— ola_norsk hi. I notice that pdf's are turned into Daisy format. My grandfather, who was blind most of his life, left behind quite a lot of (norwegian) Daisy audio books
22:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk would that be something to archive?
22:41 πŸ”— ola_norsk not sure how translation would work on them :/
22:43 πŸ”— ola_norsk at some point in time, Norsk Blindeforbund (norwegian blind people's national organisation) moved from tapes to Daisy, so it's quite a lot
22:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk if anything, it might serve as translations, since i'm sure the majority of the books were originally foreign/english?
22:50 πŸ”— ola_norsk i'm not sure how it goes with copyright, but Norsk Blindeforbund is pretty much a public/state owned norwegian organisation. Operating basically in same manner as library.
22:51 πŸ”— ola_norsk so the rights to the recordings would strictly speaking be property of norwegian people
22:53 πŸ”— ola_norsk the*
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23:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk hell, maybe they'd even upload their catalog themselves if asked ? https://www.blindeforbundet.no/
23:02 πŸ”— ola_norsk it would in some cases save them from sending out the DVDs..
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