#archiveteam-bs 2017-11-29,Wed

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05:22 🔗 hook54321 Does anyone know if IA has a nondestructive book scanner in SF that someone might be able to go get a book scanned at? The book isn't available online and likely won't ever be unless someone scans it.
05:36 🔗 CoolCanuc have you considered using a scanner app on a mobile device? :)
05:36 🔗 CoolCanuc it wont be super high dpi but it will be legiable.
05:39 🔗 wp494 hook54321: isn't IA's Scribe system non-destructive already?
05:39 🔗 hook54321 I think so, the person wants to keep the book though.
05:40 🔗 wp494 ohhh
05:40 🔗 hook54321 I saw awhile ago that IA let people scan books at an event....
05:42 🔗 hook54321 At this event. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-archive-turns-20-tickets-27292398298#
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10:45 🔗 godane i'm going to be uploading some more episodes of The Unit
10:45 🔗 godane and some 24 episodes i think
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12:01 🔗 godane SketchCow: i found tape 1 of bruce schneier deposition
12:01 🔗 godane its been digitize now
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14:02 🔗 odemg https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=86&acctid=6794
14:03 🔗 odemg godane, have we seen any tapes from the myspleen/craigslist guy yet?
14:05 🔗 godane there was only one torrent upload so far
14:05 🔗 godane its about 22gb
14:07 🔗 odemg Slow af...
14:08 🔗 odemg Are you getting it to ia as it comes?
14:09 🔗 godane i'm not get any of the tapes
14:09 🔗 godane i still have to figure out how to mail jasons stuff back to IA
14:10 🔗 godane anyways: https://www.gofundme.com/help-to-archive-a-collection-of-vhs
14:10 🔗 godane its a collection of 1000 tapes of canadian tv
14:18 🔗 SketchCow I have an incredibly boring thing that maybe people want to help with
14:19 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22description%3ADescription%20forthcoming%22
14:19 🔗 SketchCow These are all my items which lack descriptions
14:20 🔗 SketchCow Anyone who wants to hashbin or pastebin replacement descriptions, I'll take. Otherwise, I'll get to them myself
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14:52 🔗 godane https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-15606604
15:03 🔗 godane SketchCow: btw i added a 2nd goal to my patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/godane
15:07 🔗 odemg godane, how do I get 270,514/4.8TB to ia?
15:07 🔗 odemg 270,514 files*
15:07 🔗 SketchCow Why ask him and not me
15:08 🔗 odemg ohh you're here, it's the Madokami manga ftp rip, how?
15:08 🔗 SketchCow Easiest is mail in a hard drive to me
15:08 🔗 SketchCow Or I can give you an FTP drop
15:09 🔗 odemg Thought snail mail would come up, but I don't have it locally so ftp would be nice
15:15 🔗 odemg SketchCow, pm me drop details when ready. It's currently on a 10Gbit box in france, what kinda speeds can I expect to be able to push to your ftp?
15:19 🔗 Igloo Who's it with odemg?
15:20 🔗 Igloo I get around 1Gbps for american hosted
15:20 🔗 Igloo and 250 max for european stuff
15:20 🔗 jrwr Time for some rsync then :)
15:23 🔗 odemg Igloo, not sure honestly, I was given access by someone months ago. I can get 940MB/s between it and another 10Gbit box in Prague though.
15:30 🔗 Igloo Noice
15:44 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_pomf?&sort=-downloads&page=1 is me adding POMF logos and images so that the collection, which is terrible, doesn't LOOK terrible.
15:56 🔗 SketchCow Also, sorting the things in the godane inbox again
16:16 🔗 godane SketchCow: my inbox always need sorting :-D
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18:03 🔗 SketchCow It DOES
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19:00 🔗 JAA Does anyone here have experience with those $10 external floppy drives from eBay?
19:01 🔗 JAA I want to try to save anything that might still be on my floppies. They're all standard 3.5" 2HD (1.44 MB / 2.0 MB) ones.
19:02 🔗 SketchCow USB Floppies are fine
19:03 🔗 PurpleSym Just noticed that Chrome-based web archiving (using a HTTP proxy) already exists: https://github.com/internetarchive/brozzler/
19:03 🔗 SketchCow You want a program that does fucktons of retries
19:03 🔗 JAA I.e. ddrescue?
19:04 🔗 astrid yeah
19:04 🔗 JAA Some of these floppies were written on Windows, others on Mac. Does that matter? (I really have no idea about how floppies work internally.)
19:04 🔗 astrid yes. mac floppies are very different.
19:04 🔗 JAA Hmm
19:04 🔗 astrid they're laid out differently physically
19:06 🔗 schbirid2 https://twitter.com/winampskins !!!!!!!!!!
19:06 🔗 CoolCanuk found this JAA. Install at own risk :P https://www.macdisk.com/mden.php
19:07 🔗 CoolCanuk ew. You have to buy it? nevermind
19:07 🔗 JAA Ew, Windows.
19:08 🔗 CoolCanuk you're the one who wrote the windows files to the disk ;)
19:08 🔗 CoolCanuk I misread your orig message wrong. nevermind
19:12 🔗 JAA astrid: So does that mean that I'd need two drives to read both types of floppies, or is it just a matter of how the data is structured on the disk?
19:14 🔗 CoolCanuk surely there must be a reason why we receive 508 on the wiki. :/
19:14 🔗 JAA It seems to be difficult to find information on this stuff on the internet...
19:20 🔗 CoolCanuk holy ... I am in disbelief at the new apple "bug"
19:20 🔗 JAA if not rootExists: createUser(username = 'root', password = '')
19:20 🔗 JAA WCGW?
19:21 🔗 CoolCanuk easier to login than the ctrl+alt+del ctrl+alt+del "Administrator" on xp...
19:22 🔗 astrid JAA: you need a whole different drive, i believe
19:22 🔗 JAA Ew
19:31 🔗 CoolCanuk where can we discuss the wiki? I would love it if we could upload svg files
19:31 🔗 Frogging you can discuss it here but I don't recall who runs it
19:32 🔗 CoolCanuk oh ok :) Thanks
19:32 🔗 Frogging they might be lurking if you're lucky
19:34 🔗 CoolCanuk It would be nice if the logo was a bit bigger on Template: Infobox project (like on wikipedia), but it's not my decision. Sadly the template the wiki uses overrides all sizes unless you want to display the full size image
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20:17 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_screenr Much nicer
20:25 🔗 CoolCanuk lol wish I knew how to upload web
20:26 🔗 CoolCanuk does anyone know if it's possible to "split" files in archive.org? I uploaded a bunch of pdfs as one item and it would be nice to have 1 item per pdf
20:31 🔗 astrid you can't split items like that in-place
20:31 🔗 astrid you'll have to download and reupload
20:31 🔗 astrid which you can do with this tool: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive
20:31 🔗 CoolCanuk O_O RIP
20:32 🔗 astrid i mean, you'll have to write the script yourself, but this takes care of the archive.org bits
20:41 🔗 CoolCanuk https://www.metronews.ca/winnipeg.html and https://www.metronews.ca/ottawa.html appear to be officially gone. RIP
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20:44 🔗 JAA astrid: What about 'ia move'? That does a server copy + delete, as far as I understand the documentation.
20:45 🔗 CoolCanuk I still have the files.
20:45 🔗 CoolCanuk it's just easier to not reupload :P
20:47 🔗 astrid JAA: only within the same item
20:49 🔗 JAA Oh, really? In that case, the docs are definitely misleading: "You can copy files in archive.org items like so: ia copy <src-identifier>/<src-filename> <dest-identifier>/<dest-filename>" (and "ia move works just like ia copy except the source file is deleted after the file has been successfully copied.")
20:51 🔗 astrid i haven't tried, but i always thought that you can't move across item boundaries
21:20 🔗 JAA SketchCow: FOS's pipeline.html is semi-broken. It still displays the df output, but not the individual projects.
21:22 🔗 SketchCow Oh, I'm SURE it's broken
21:22 🔗 SketchCow I think it's SUPER broken
21:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm now fixing things on FOS lineraly
22:00 🔗 DFJustin JAA: Mac high-density 1.44MB floppies are the same as PC floppies, just with a different file system
22:00 🔗 DFJustin the older 800K floppies use a totally different magnetic encoding scheme
22:00 🔗 DFJustin so for the former a USB floppy should be fine, for the latter you'd need an old Mac or a kryoflux type board
22:00 🔗 astrid ah, thanks for the clarification
22:01 🔗 JAA Sounds good, thanks.
22:02 🔗 DFJustin to read the file system on windows you'll need a program like transmac or hfvexplorer
22:03 🔗 JAA I've read a bit more about it since, and I came across "DOS = fixed rotational speed, Mac = varying speed" (for better data density in the outer parts of the disk, I assume?). Is that about the 800k ones then?
22:03 🔗 DFJustin yes
22:04 🔗 JAA I see.
22:04 🔗 JAA Lots of confusing information across the internet. :-P
22:05 🔗 JAA Which file systems were used? FAT(something) and HFS?
22:05 🔗 DFJustin I believe so
22:09 🔗 JAA Alright, I'll deal with that when I have the images. Thanks for the info!
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23:30 🔗 SketchCow http://fos.textfiles.com/pipeline.html bettere
23:31 🔗 JAA :-)
23:31 🔗 JAA Thanks!
23:36 🔗 JAA SketchCow: You asked the other day whether someone would be willing to fix SSL on the wiki. I'd happily do that. Let's Encrypt has made it really easy.
23:36 🔗 jrwr might seem strange, but I need some help programming a 6502 / BASIC, doing some loops inbasic poking data but a refresh look for the LED bank is not getting enough cycles
23:37 🔗 JAA And on a related note, is there anything we can do about the resource limit errors? They've been getting quite annoying lately.
23:38 🔗 jrwr caching, the site is pretty static, but from what I understand its on a shared webhost under apache
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23:43 🔗 CoolCanuk keep-alive would be a start
23:43 🔗 JAA HTTP/2, also.
23:43 🔗 JAA Lots of potential for improvement.
23:45 🔗 CoolCanuk we're not using HTTP/2? oh god
23:45 🔗 JAA Of course not.
23:45 🔗 CoolCanuk are we anti-cloudflare?
23:46 🔗 CoolCanuk they'll give you https, http/2, ipv6, always online, ddos protection, etc for free. You can exclude subdomains from cloudflare as needed
23:46 🔗 JAA Fuck CloudFlare.
23:46 🔗 astrid we are anti-cloudflare
23:46 🔗 astrid cloudflare doesn't give you ddos protection for free, btw.
23:47 🔗 CoolCanuk it's worked for me O_O. Just not advanced
23:47 🔗 CoolCanuk but I completely understand why you're against WAF and such
23:49 🔗 JAA There's also the whole MitM problem, which apparently almost nobody is concerned about. A major fraction of the internet traffic can effectively be monitored and modified at will by one US company.
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23:49 🔗 CoolCanuk at&t room 641a?
23:50 🔗 SketchCow JAA: OK
23:50 🔗 JAA And well, even if they're not evil and all their employees trustworthy, there's still the risk of data leaks, as we've seen just a few months ago.
23:50 🔗 SketchCow Well, Coderjo hates cloudflare
23:50 🔗 SketchCow I have no direct opinion
23:50 🔗 astrid cloudflare fucks with archiving efforts often enough that i don't like it
23:51 🔗 CoolCanuk I completely understand why you'd hate cloudflare. I would too.

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