#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-04,Mon

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00:03 🔗 CoolCanuk wiki seems better :O
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02:22 🔗 SketchCow Wow, CoolCanuk - that's.... not quite how I'd have uploaded those texts, item name wise
02:22 🔗 CoolCanuk Howdy. The title or id?
02:23 🔗 CoolCanuk I can reupload them properly if you want. But I'm not sure what the "best way" is to name them.
02:25 🔗 CoolCanuk how the heck did it get added to newspapers?!
02:26 🔗 SketchCow I added them
02:26 🔗 CoolCanuk oh
02:26 🔗 CoolCanuk the guides are not newspapers.
02:26 🔗 SketchCow They're all called coolcanu* so there's no way to know
02:27 🔗 CoolCanuk the title :)
02:27 🔗 SketchCow mmmm.
02:27 🔗 SketchCow Not how it works in the system
02:27 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, do better next time.
02:28 🔗 CoolCanuk I can't do better if you can't tell me what they should be named as
02:28 🔗 CoolCanuk I put in over 4 days of effort to get and upload those files. I want to make it right but it's hard to get advice
02:28 🔗 SketchCow Mmm
02:28 🔗 SketchCow Yes, please snap at me
02:29 🔗 SketchCow That has always worked
02:29 🔗 SketchCow And let's have a "days of effort" competition
02:30 🔗 CoolCanuk I didn't intent to come across that way. Would you like me to delete and reupload?
02:30 🔗 SketchCow You can't delete.
02:33 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/@starbritescanz
02:33 🔗 SketchCow yay
02:36 🔗 SketchCow ----- ARCHIVEBOT CAUGHT UP ON FOS -----
02:36 🔗 SketchCow Took a while.
03:24 🔗 Somebody2 I suspect a better identifier name would be one that clarified the subject more, and likely included the date.
03:25 🔗 CoolCanuk Thanks so much! I will use that next time. I really appreciate the help :D
03:37 🔗 Somebody2 Eh, I do what I can.
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04:12 🔗 jrwr Awesome SketchCow
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04:30 🔗 CoolCanuk SketchCow: can I continue to upload papers (properly) like I've done, or will they likely be removed later (eg: not public domain/cc)?
04:32 🔗 Somebody2 Eh, don't rely on them being available for you to download again, but I don't think that's a sufficient reason not to upload things.
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04:34 🔗 CoolCanuk I am sorry for uploading wrong. I will try harder nex ttime
04:34 🔗 CoolCanuk *next
05:05 🔗 CoolCanuk do I need to request any type of disclaimer if it shows "sensitive content"? or nah
05:06 🔗 Somebody2 No.
05:07 🔗 CoolCanuk okay :D
05:08 🔗 Somebody2 IA allows random people to upload random things. There's nothing you (or anyone else) *needs* to do; all filtering is post-facto.
05:09 🔗 Somebody2 It is *nice* if the uploader adds as much metadata as possible, and uses a descriptive identifier -- but it isn't a "need".
05:09 🔗 CoolCanuk it's not beheading or anything crazy. it's nazis, hitler, weapons, mentioning of fallen soldiers,
05:09 🔗 CoolCanuk ah ok. so only description is what i can do?
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05:51 🔗 bitspill CoolCanuk: what sorts of Nazi, Hitler, etc content do you have?
05:51 🔗 CoolCanuk ecks dee
05:52 🔗 CoolCanuk https://archive.org/details/RemembranceDay2006TributeSoldiersCry
05:52 🔗 CoolCanuk it's like no more than 10 seconds
05:54 🔗 bitspill Ok, thanks. Not quite what I was hoping for but I'll save for later.
05:54 🔗 CoolCanuk :P
05:54 🔗 bitspill I've been seeking out WW2 combat reports and old footage
05:54 🔗 CoolCanuk sorry to disappoint
05:54 🔗 CoolCanuk it appears to be war footage. Unlikely it was set-up.
05:54 🔗 bitspill Wasn't sure if you had casualty reports from the 40's or something
05:55 🔗 CoolCanuk but again like 10 seconds :P and the "march" is easily findable
05:55 🔗 CoolCanuk sadly no
05:55 🔗 bitspill All good. I'll find it elsewhere someday
05:56 🔗 bitspill More and more though it seems I'll have to be getting it from NARA in St Louis
06:02 🔗 CoolCanuk depressing facebook. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IjBGVPdY/image.png
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10:05 🔗 mr_archiv Hi, I am new here.
10:06 🔗 mr_archiv I have taken in interest in the #webroasting project, I found a few additional websites.
10:07 🔗 mr_archiv s/in interest/an interest
10:09 🔗 mr_archiv Should I discuss this on #webroasting? I did not see any activity in the logs so that is why I am asking here first.
10:26 🔗 Igloo Hi, I'm not sure what the status of that project is
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11:05 🔗 Jon hmmm wonder if we've got linux journal all sorted
11:06 🔗 Igloo It's in archivebot
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15:46 🔗 godane !ao https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/local/las-vegas-teens/
15:46 🔗 godane its in archivebot now
15:47 🔗 SketchCow godane: Is there a chance you could photograph the labels of the tapes you were sent?
15:52 🔗 godane i don't have a camera
16:06 🔗 sec0nd Can I have archive bot permissions?
16:12 🔗 Igloo Join the channel
16:12 🔗 Igloo If you join sec0nd i'll voice you
16:15 🔗 sec0nd Which channel?
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16:17 🔗 Igloo #archivebot
16:21 🔗 sec0nd Seems there is no way to register nicks with Efnet how do I make sure I always have my nick?
16:22 🔗 Jonimus sec0nd: you don't
16:22 🔗 sec0nd seems rather insecure
16:22 🔗 Jonimus EFnet is the lawless west
16:22 🔗 sec0nd why did #archiveteam not use freenode?
16:28 🔗 Kaz freenode sucks
16:35 🔗 sec0nd doesn't seem so bad to me
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17:14 🔗 jrwr Its come up before sec0nd, its mostly ~REASONS~
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17:24 🔗 ola_norsk hi. Anyone know if waybackmachine prunes captures down to nearest hour?
17:25 🔗 ola_norsk if so, there's little use in me doing captures of a twitter hashtag every 3rd minute :/
17:27 🔗 JAA I don't think it prunes them, but it certainly does seem like it only *displays* one capture per hour in the list.
17:27 🔗 ola_norsk aye
17:27 🔗 JAA ... with no way to get a full list, as far as I can see.
17:27 🔗 JAA Which is super annoying.
17:28 🔗 JAA Also, the arrows in the top bar no longer lead to the previous/next capture as they used to, but to the previous/next *date*.
17:28 🔗 JAA So if you want to go through the captures, you probably have to manually modify the URL.
17:29 🔗 JAA E.g. decrement in 1-minute steps until you're redirected to the next earlier capture.
17:29 🔗 JAA Maybe the API returns all captures, haven't checked.
17:29 🔗 JAA I wanted to write to IA about this months ago but forgot about it.
17:30 🔗 ola_norsk yeah, been wondering about making some python script that reads the twitter page, grabs all urls found, check trough the wayback json thingy if it already exist, then request that url trough their /save/ thingy if does not exist.
17:30 🔗 ola_norsk still gonna let it run though, and hope they dont actually prune
17:31 🔗 ola_norsk it says currently today 88+ captures, so
17:31 🔗 JAA Yeah, exactly. I strongly doubt they do.
18:00 🔗 schbirid doesnt ia get a full twitter feed anyways?
18:03 🔗 zino The library of Congress gets the full feed. I don't know of anyone else that does.
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18:08 🔗 zino I see it's the time of year we throw some money at IA.
18:08 🔗 Frogging I'm fresh out of money
18:08 🔗 ola_norsk let me know if it does so
18:09 🔗 ola_norsk doesn't library of congress go to IA?
18:09 🔗 zino Unlikely
18:10 🔗 zino Library of Congress ingests the data but blacks it out until it's historical.
18:10 🔗 JAA Frogging: Yeah, Christmas definitely seems like the perfect time to ask for donations, since nobody's spending their money on anything else around this time of the year.
18:10 🔗 ola_norsk zino: that sounds like bogus thing to do
18:11 🔗 ola_norsk zino: "Let's us decide what is history worthy"-kind of thing :/
18:13 🔗 zino No, it's standard practise in a lot of historical archiving. It's not decideing what is history worthy, it's keeping it blacked out for a set amount of time to avoid complaints and demands to redact personal information. Many institutions handle it that way.
18:13 🔗 ola_norsk https://youtu.be/NdZxI3nFVJs
18:14 🔗 ola_norsk still bogus i think, since complaints and demands, basically reactions would IMO also be history
18:14 🔗 JAA zino: Surely the tweets from many years ago should be considered historical by now (technology evolving fast etc.). But as far as I know, the archives are not accessible anywhere, are they?
18:15 🔗 ola_norsk "you can't see this yet"...that's a bit shady IMO
18:17 🔗 ola_norsk (i think i just used 'shady' in it's correct definition for the first time, ever) :D
18:18 🔗 zino JAA: I don't know if LoC even has the infrastructure to search their own twitter database yet. My bets are on no.
18:19 🔗 zino https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/08/can-twitter-fit-inside-the-library-of-congress/494339/
18:20 🔗 zino Ah, the embargo is only supposed to be six months.
18:20 🔗 zino But deleted posts will not be visible.
18:20 🔗 ola_norsk mhm
18:21 🔗 ola_norsk zino: would tweets from deleted or banned twitter accounts be there?
18:22 🔗 zino No idea.
18:23 🔗 zino Oh, you can buy a full feed.
18:23 🔗 ola_norsk yeah lol
18:24 🔗 ola_norsk how much for every tweet containing "#netneutrality" ?
18:24 🔗 ola_norsk :d
18:24 🔗 ola_norsk it's how twitter makes a lot of money :)
18:32 🔗 ola_norsk there was a research done not that long ago, about "internet harrasment"; There's is no doubt in my mind that that research institution/department simply said "Hey twitter! give us all the tweets containing any of these words"
18:33 🔗 ola_norsk for money, of course
18:39 🔗 ola_norsk zino: you know that "if you have a room of monkeys with typewrites for an infitie time; eventually they would reproduce a shakespear work" , right? :D
18:39 🔗 ola_norsk makes one think of twitter lol :D
18:41 🔗 ola_norsk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
18:46 🔗 ola_norsk it would require a "total library" though...
19:01 🔗 ola_norsk "but for every sensible line or accurate fact there would be millions of meaningless cacophonies, verbal farragoes, and babblings. Everything: but all the generations of mankind could pass before the dizzying shelves—shelves that obliterate the day and on which chaos lies—ever reward them with a tolerable page."
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19:20 🔗 ola_norsk what could be the closest thing to an Internet Archive 'pitch deck' presentation, other than the entire site itself?
19:20 🔗 ola_norsk some sum-up video etc.
19:25 🔗 ola_norsk it's a shame i can take a 3 minute walk, and go into my local museum, where they literally moved old buildings and log-cabins into, to preserve them..and yet Archiving TODAY seems very much less priotizied
19:26 🔗 astrid things aren't valued until they are old
19:27 🔗 astrid part of the social role of an archivist is to safeguard things that are not yet old
19:27 🔗 ola_norsk but shit dissapears in basically 14 days now-a-days :/
19:27 🔗 astrid yes
19:28 🔗 astrid this is why archiveteam exists
19:28 🔗 ola_norsk aye
19:28 🔗 astrid it feels sisyphean sometimes
19:28 🔗 astrid but it is what we do
19:31 🔗 ola_norsk the benefit of internet is that it can be copied though. No need to dismantle it and carry it to some other location.
19:31 🔗 ola_norsk i like this slogan 'Memories give meaning' http://sunnhordland.museum.no/about/
19:32 🔗 astrid "no need to dismantle and carry" ... i take it you haven't moved a website to different infrastructure :P
19:32 🔗 CoolCanuk just fyi, if you try to archive that site, it need javascript :( ola_norsk
19:32 🔗 ola_norsk lol...
19:33 🔗 ola_norsk but just imagine, every building seen in these photos stood somewhere else .. http://sunnhordland.museum.no/heim/om-museet/tun-samlingar/sunnhordlandstunet/
19:33 🔗 ola_norsk dismantled from farms etc. , moved, reassembled, and then kept
19:34 🔗 ola_norsk that's some wget stuff
19:35 🔗 ola_norsk this one isnt't from the same freakin island.. http://sunnhordland.museum.no/heim/om-museet/stolmastovo-sunnmus/
19:35 🔗 ola_norsk *even
19:36 🔗 ola_norsk and yet, internet archiving..nah, that's something too expensive perhaps..
19:37 🔗 ola_norsk the upkeep of these buildings though..
19:41 🔗 ola_norsk mind, that's a very, VERY, small musuem in norway
19:45 🔗 ola_norsk for some reason, we norwegians seem to like keeping old shit around. It's why i think it wouldn't take much convincing of government getting a mirror location of IA here.
19:45 🔗 CoolCanuk I wonder if the Canadian government could be convincee
19:45 🔗 CoolCanuk d
19:45 🔗 CoolCanuk (very likely)
19:45 🔗 ola_norsk isn't there already a canadian mirror?
19:46 🔗 arkiver yes
19:46 🔗 CoolCanuk omg I could be a book scanner
19:46 🔗 CoolCanuk *drools*
19:46 🔗 astrid i have a book scanner, it's a nice machine but gets boring quick :P
19:47 🔗 CoolCanuk jobs a job
19:48 🔗 astrid yeah
19:49 🔗 astrid also i keep taking time off scanning, to hack on the processing pipeline
19:49 🔗 astrid so i dont get much scanning done
19:49 🔗 CoolCanuk wonder if I could use a DSLR camera to book scan
19:50 🔗 ola_norsk humans suck; There's now sex robots and probes on other planets..But nothing to flip a damn page on a book :/
19:50 🔗 CoolCanuk there are mobile apps, which auto detect pages, but the quality wont be that great. A DSLR could work..
19:50 🔗 CoolCanuk some DSLRs let your use it as a "webcam"
19:51 🔗 astrid go to youtube and search for "linear bookscanner"
19:51 🔗 CoolCanuk O_O
19:51 🔗 astrid i chose to get one of the ones where you have to sit, though, because the linear style has a spoil rate of one page per about ten books
19:51 🔗 astrid and i have mostly rare books
19:51 🔗 CoolCanuk so THATS how they dont fk the book spine up xD
19:52 🔗 CoolCanuk I have a book from like 1996.. wonder if I could upload it
19:52 🔗 CoolCanuk it's still under copyright :/
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19:55 🔗 ola_norsk i have a copy of the Snorre's Saga that's older than any person i know. But it's in pretty bad shape. Is there anywhere i could send that SAFELY, and FREE, to get scanned?
19:55 🔗 CoolCanuk here's the book :P https://www.amazon.ca/Cybersurfer-Owl-Internet-Guide-Kids/dp/1895688507
20:04 🔗 ola_norsk that's the coolest cover i've seen :d
20:05 🔗 ola_norsk stole it! https://web.archive.org/web/20171204200525/https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51JWT1RGVHL.jpg#
20:07 🔗 CoolCanuk the cover isnt what it looks like in real life
20:07 🔗 CoolCanuk it looks ... better in real life.. that has like.. 50% of the color removed or something
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20:09 🔗 ola_norsk i know, internet is much cooler :D https://youtu.be/Bmz67ErIRa4
20:19 🔗 ola_norsk are there any book-scanning locations to send books to to get them scanned? preferrably for free. Talking about a book that should probably belong to national museum. So can't really ship it by fedex etc. :/
20:20 🔗 astrid sooooo if you can't fedex it then how are you going to ship it
20:21 🔗 ola_norsk that's why i am asking what locations there are :/
20:26 🔗 ola_norsk recognized, well-known book-scanning facilities in northern-europe or preferably scandinavia; I guess that is what i am asking about
20:27 🔗 ola_norsk if any such place previously have scanned for IA
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20:32 🔗 ola_norsk Seems like national library nb.no is the place to contact :D
20:34 🔗 ola_norsk btw, is this collection on IA? https://www.nb.no/search
20:35 🔗 ola_norsk (i wouldn't be surprised if access from outside of norway is restricted/blocked)
20:37 🔗 ola_norsk https://www.nb.no/search?mediatype=bilder
20:43 🔗 ola_norsk how can i detect if a file is already present on IA?
20:43 🔗 CoolCanuk all I know is search
20:43 🔗 CoolCanuk thats the only way I know of
20:48 🔗 ola_norsk seems like national library have their own litte internet archive going, but in case IA is any part of this/these https://www.nb.no/english , it's not useful to re-upload it
20:49 🔗 ola_norsk https://www.nb.no/english/collaboration-projects
20:56 🔗 ola_norsk "Pliktavlevering" ..when you're shit is so old the museum just comes along and demands it ;)
20:56 🔗 ola_norsk i wonder if any other country has that; duty to give :D
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20:59 🔗 ola_norsk "pliktavleverening" = duty to hand over .. it even got own adress :D
21:00 🔗 ola_norsk CoolCanuk: those 1300+ e magazines, how did you aquire those?
21:01 🔗 CoolCanuk I scraped the pdf urls
21:01 🔗 CoolCanuk https://www.readmetro.com/
21:01 🔗 CoolCanuk pick a city, choose archves, pick a date and an "open pdf" button shows.
21:01 🔗 CoolCanuk urls were collected, I put them into Jdownloader
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21:02 🔗 ola_norsk ok, it seems like a seriously collection, so i had to ask if you manually collected them as they were released :)
21:03 🔗 CoolCanuk nope :)
21:06 🔗 ola_norsk what did you use to scrape it?
21:07 🔗 CoolCanuk https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/web-scraper/jnhgnonknehpejjnehehllkliplmbmhn
21:07 🔗 CoolCanuk small learning curve, and interface isnt the best but works well
21:07 🔗 ola_norsk that saves ALL urls on the page?
21:08 🔗 CoolCanuk it saves what you tell it to
21:08 🔗 CoolCanuk if you tell it to start at the archive page, click on the image, and gather the pdf url, that's what it will do
21:08 🔗 ola_norsk could it scroll a "read more" page?
21:08 🔗 CoolCanuk yup
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21:10 🔗 CoolCanuk http://webscraper.io/tutorials
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21:11 🔗 CoolCanuk you can continue to use chrome while it scrapes. Just don't close the tab
21:14 🔗 ola_norsk i'd need a headless browser for that. So many times i close shit by even accident
21:15 🔗 ola_norsk but, it has no problem with lets say ; having to automatically scroll down a twitter page of a certain hashtag?
21:17 🔗 CoolCanuk shouldnt be
21:17 🔗 ola_norsk ty
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21:23 🔗 ola_norsk CoolCanuk: this, http://webscraper.io/documentation#element-click-selector could be the damn "This is taking a long time..CLICK TO RETRY" twitter shit, right? :D
21:23 🔗 JAA Was about to say, that button is the worst.
21:24 🔗 JAA And headless browsers exist. Both Chromium and Firefox have headless modes since a few months.
21:24 🔗 JAA I.e. proper headless browsers, not some frankensteined stuff like PhantomJS.
21:24 🔗 ola_norsk any way to simulate scroll down?
21:25 🔗 JAA Most likely. I haven't looked at it in detail yet.
21:26 🔗 Harzilein JAA: heh, i kind of wondered if that's how firefox would sweeten the deal for devs w/ xul going away
21:27 🔗 Harzilein JAA: so embedding might get easier again as well?
21:27 🔗 JAA Possible, but more likely that they just realised that something like this is wanted. Chromium shipped their version of it quite a bit earlier.
21:27 🔗 JAA Yes, definitely.
21:28 🔗 JAA PurpleSym has been working on building a grabber with Chromium headless.
21:28 🔗 Harzilein JAA: i always had a sweet spot for the kazehakase browser
21:31 🔗 ola_norsk one problem with twitter is they fucking t.co url's though. Although, they could easily be written to real urls since the url they point to is always in the alt= property of the links
21:31 🔗 JAA Harzilein: Looks like that project has been dead for years though. :-/
21:32 🔗 Harzilein JAA: yes. that goes together with bitrots in distributions/port collections that used to have it
21:32 🔗 JAA ola_norsk: I wish we could throw t.co into URLTeam. But the codes are way too long to do that.
21:32 🔗 ola_norsk ?
21:33 🔗 JAA ola_norsk: Archiving link shorteners because they suck.
21:33 🔗 ola_norsk hell yeah they are :D
21:34 🔗 JAA If you want to know more: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam and #urlteam
21:35 🔗 ola_norsk can't click on a damn think on captured twitter, without t.co making it fail. Even if the page shows the correct link at hovering over it
21:39 🔗 ola_norsk some naturally short link do, but i guess if a link that surpasses char limit of tweet is pasted by user, it becomes converted to t.co link
21:40 🔗 ola_norsk and the actual link is then put in the 'alt=' property of that t.co link
21:45 🔗 ola_norsk basically looks like a list of internet MOULD http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#URL_shorteners
21:59 🔗 CoolCanuk it should work, yes ola_norsk
21:59 🔗 CoolCanuk I have no used it for twitter
21:59 🔗 CoolCanuk *not
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22:50 🔗 ola_norsk CoolCanuk: this illustrates url shorteners i think http://www.magsfrosta.no/images/svartsopp.jpg .. URL shorteners deserves a latin name..
22:51 🔗 CoolCanuk :P
22:51 🔗 ola_norsk what's that shit that rots tents if one pack them while moist?
22:53 🔗 ola_norsk "hospites putridum" .. that's url shortners
22:56 🔗 CoolCanuk can a bureaucrat please delete those pages
22:57 🔗 JAA SketchCow: Wiki spam ^
22:58 🔗 wp494 CoolCanuk: use {{Delete}} to flag spam articles for deletion
22:58 🔗 wp494 I'll do it for you
22:59 🔗 CoolCanuk why? The template is blank
22:59 🔗 wp494 It adds the "Deleteme" category to those pages
22:59 🔗 CoolCanuk Why not just add it to Deleteme?
23:00 🔗 SketchCow Neat
23:01 🔗 jrwr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdySvd_HIlQ
23:01 🔗 jrwr just watching it now
23:01 🔗 jrwr Your crazy ass suite
23:02 🔗 ola_norsk finally a video, i was so bored on #norge
23:03 🔗 ola_norsk ...what if...black light causes cancer.. :/
23:03 🔗 ola_norsk he's so sued!
23:03 🔗 CoolCanuk lol
23:09 🔗 CoolCanuk (I don't know why the IRC bot reports +1 or -1 but oh well)
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23:10 🔗 ola_norsk on a serious not, it worries me to learn the state of it... When someone mailed someone at dataforeningen.no regarding a national mirror , the message back was "I like the idea very much! I know WayBackMachine very well! What else can you tell me about what you're thinking."
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23:10 🔗 JAA That's the article length (bytes or characters) difference due to your edit.
23:10 🔗 wp494 CoolCanuk: it's just relaying the amount of bytes that were changed with your edit, so since yours was just 1 character taken out, it would be -1
23:10 🔗 CoolCanuk -1 is hardly worth reporting about
23:10 🔗 wp494 (in the case of the -1s)
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23:10 🔗 wp494 /shrug
23:11 🔗 wp494 it relays everything and it doesn't give any damns about how big or how small edits are
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23:11 🔗 JAA ola_norsk: Nice!
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23:13 🔗 ola_norsk a representative of dataforeningen.no saying "I like the idea" is not actually a small deal, it's one of the oldest computer thingy techie associations in Europe (and scandinavia)
23:14 🔗 ola_norsk all that was asked was 'What would be your stand on Norway having a IA mirror'
23:14 🔗 CoolCanuk i clicked on their site and they retweeted a computer scren photo. NOPE. use the screenshot tool xD
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23:15 🔗 JAA So I'm supposed to take a screenshot of the photo and distribute that. Got it.
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23:16 🔗 CoolCanuk I brought up a privacy concern because my college was asking for SIN numbers over HTTP (not HTTPS). Privacy commissioner claimed colleges are not for profit so they won't help me. Even though the college says they have to follow PIPEDA everywhere.
23:16 🔗 CoolCanuk I was so upset lol
23:16 🔗 ola_norsk the problem is, i'm just a drunk fuck from an islan out west in norway...So a "pitch deck" would certainly help :/
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23:19 🔗 ola_norsk when he asked me; "Have you talked to Brewster Kahle" , i was tempted to write back "who the fuck do you think i am? I just asked about your stance!"
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23:24 🔗 ola_norsk anyway, my point is that Den Norske Dataforening are major 'movers-and-shakers' in Norway .. And if they represative say "I really like the idea! What more can you tell me" ..that is not really a small thingy
23:24 🔗 astrid :)
23:24 🔗 ola_norsk but a drunk fuck like me can't really take it further
23:27 🔗 bithippo ola_norsk: I'd be happy to put a pitch deck together with IA's blessing
23:27 🔗 bithippo I'd be happy to approach governments for grants on IA's behalf _for free_ actually
23:27 🔗 bithippo Not sure if that's something they'd be cool with? Have to check with someone who has authority in such matters.
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23:29 🔗 ola_norsk bithippo: aye..that would be most helpful
23:29 🔗 ola_norsk here's what i wrote back btw: https://pastebin.com/raw/RWFYhsCd (translate whoever want's to) :D
23:32 🔗 ola_norsk google translation https://pastebin.com/raw/nzAZx0RV ..all i did was ask about their stance of the possibility :( suddenly i get questions back. I'm not a boss! :/
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23:33 🔗 ola_norsk google translate is horrible shit...
23:34 🔗 bithippo I would love to get IA EU sponsorship for an EU physical location/mirror
23:36 🔗 ola_norsk pfff..EU , that's breaking it apart it seems :D
23:36 🔗 ola_norsk but yeah
23:37 🔗 ola_norsk (norway is not member of eu btw)
23:38 🔗 sec0nd Does the archive have full text search?
23:38 🔗 sec0nd For the wayback machine mainly and perhaps also the collections
23:39 🔗 ola_norsk sec0nd: here's for https://archive.org/details/texts?and[]=it%20was%20the%20best%20of%20times
23:40 🔗 ola_norsk i think WayBackMachine operates on 'keywords' ...whatever that means
23:40 🔗 ola_norsk prolly means in urls, i don't know
23:43 🔗 ola_norsk sec0nd: https://web.archive.org/web/*/jimmy%20hendrix
23:44 🔗 astrid that searches <title> tags, which is better than nothing
23:44 🔗 ola_norsk sec0nd: seems like wayback 'keywords' are words in urls
23:44 🔗 ola_norsk even better than in just urls then..
23:44 🔗 sec0nd Thank you
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23:49 🔗 ola_norsk is this an 'The Onion' clone? http://irishpost.co.uk/irish-villagers-complain-viagra-plant-fumes-men-dogs-walking-around-hard-ons/
23:50 🔗 ola_norsk if that's a legit newspaper, i'd like to be irish
23:53 🔗 ola_norsk "The Irish Post is the biggest selling national newspaper to the Irish in Britain." ..wtf
23:53 🔗 CoolCanuk i read that too lmao
23:54 🔗 ola_norsk no i mean, 'the biggest selling national newpapaer to the Irish IN BRITAIN'...something is fushy about that
23:54 🔗 ola_norsk fishy*
23:58 🔗 ola_norsk CoolCanuk: it must be a 'The Onion' clone.. Does viagra 'plants' even produce "fumes" ?? lol
23:58 🔗 CoolCanuk i dont think it would make sense to have fumes
23:58 🔗 ola_norsk aye
23:58 🔗 CoolCanuk i dont think any factory for medicine would have fumes..
23:59 🔗 CoolCanuk heat exaust, sure. but shouldnt be fumes unless they're burning trash /bad batches which is NOT permitted
23:59 🔗 ola_norsk aye.. And where's the lawsuits..
23:59 🔗 CoolCanuk ya

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