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godane |
so i'm down to about 78gb of jason scott tape rips to upload |
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godane |
so i'm capturing the 'in the footsteps of alexander the great' pbs home video tapes |
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godane |
turns out mvgroup did capture it from dvds back in 2007 : http://forums.mvgroup.org/index.php?&showtopic=21837 |
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Looks like the opper bots left this chan again. Spread ops please? |
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm uploading very slow right now to FOS for some reason |
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godane |
anyways DONT upload anything from Godane VHS Capture folder for awhile |
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JAA |
FWIW, my uploads seem to run fine. |
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JAA |
Might as well give an update on Charlie Rose while I'm looking at it: 3700 videos grabbed, 1700 more in the queue. Total size around 1.5 TB until now. |
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vxbinaca |
@sketchcow So 1) That's not me I'm much more judiscious in wehat I upload 2) I try to either do emergency rips of endangered content or ask permission of the creator - and they're receptive and I can provide sources 3) When I do emergecny rips it's because I have good reason to see content being wiped. 4) I agree with you on Alex Jones, whole heartedly |
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vxbinaca |
I wouldn't do a massive upload like that. I too think he's doing it as a publicity stunt. |
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SketchCow |
Right. |
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SketchCow |
So "an hero" decided to go to you to "help you" by telling you what I "meant" |
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vxbinaca |
I'm not in IRC, I live in Discord. I saw screen grabs. I'm trying to smooth over any wrinkles, because I look up to you and want to work with you. |
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SketchCow |
Well, I did a little experiment to head off a shitshow and it caused a bigger shitshow I'll be dealing with for months |
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So that's a lot of my annoyance |
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vxbinaca |
Is there anything I can do to help you? |
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SketchCow |
Just keep grabbing "rare content" where "rare content" represents "huh, this is a pretty amazing thing to upload to the internet, too bad it's just youtube" |
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SketchCow |
And mirror shows all you want, just hold off on putting them on the Archive until deletion or dead |
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vxbinaca |
If you must know, the issu came up in a discussion of another youtuber 'an hero' saved and I noted he got it before me. |
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SketchCow |
I only vaguely must know |
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SketchCow |
In trying to clarify, I muddied. Lesson learned |
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vxbinaca |
Basically you're telling to stop everything I do, because due to other projects that I'm fulfilling your request with, I'm running out of disk space and have a 70kbps upload speed at home and that is not a joke on my bandwidth. |
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vxbinaca |
I have 130 gigs of Tumblr I'm doing right now which is nothing in comparison to that site. Funeral recordings are 175 gigs. |
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vxbinaca |
Everything I do I do through a shell that goes to the Netherlands. |
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vxbinaca |
Otherwise, I'd be doing exactly what you ask. Ontop of that I've seen staff using Tubeup. That's thanks enough I don't need it enunciated. |
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vxbinaca |
If you ask again to hold onto the videos, I will cease all ripping, abandon my collections, give what's left of my etherium I pay rent on servers with to the head of my group, and walk until my local projects are done. Than that's it. I'll find another hobby |
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vxbinaca |
I'll give JAke repo access to PyPi he has write access to Tubeup he doesn't need me after that. |
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SketchCow |
I detect anger |
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vxbinaca |
Exaserbation |
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SketchCow |
So, there's a subtlety I feel is being missed. |
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SketchCow |
If in fact you're grabbing "rare content", which I define as "content that looks like it was samzidat uploaded to youtube because youtube is a place to upload videos", which means it's subject to all sorts of potential reasons to disappear, then that is something that makes total sense to mirror to the Internet Archive. |
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vxbinaca |
\Nothing is being missed. Ask again for me to do the impossible and I'll oblige you by leaving. This is a part-time thing for me. I can find other things in life to dump my energy into. It's nothing personal, I really like you, but I refuse to have conflict with you or staff. I would rather let you win |
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SketchCow |
That's just LOCKSS. That's a no brainer. |
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SketchCow |
Like, there's someone I found who uploads crazy amounts of 1980s commercials. Just hundreds. Totally makes sense to mirror at archive. |
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vxbinaca |
Right before PEriscope stopped working I was doing subject appropriate Periscope rips, I have 10,000 videos. 8,00- are gone. |
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vxbinaca |
That's just one example. I'm testing YouNow as we speak |
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vxbinaca |
These are ephemoral, vanishing things that if no one grabs them they're gone. |
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vxbinaca |
it's not just Youtube |
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SketchCow |
Yes |
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SketchCow |
But I was speaking |
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SketchCow |
Specifically |
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About |
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SketchCow |
Youtube |
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SketchCow |
Shows |
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SketchCow |
Shows. |
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SketchCow |
Shows. |
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vxbinaca |
I don't do Youtube shows. I limit myself to a few subcultures that are demonstrably in danger. |
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SketchCow |
Shows. Things where they are these commercial entities, with a podcast feel but very obviously and specifically money-enterprises |
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SketchCow |
Yeah |
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SketchCow |
So knock yourself out |
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SketchCow |
Have an awesome time |
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vxbinaca |
I mean it when I say you inspired me. |
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SketchCow |
If for some reason it triggers off something on the Front office of Internet Archive, they'll go (they literally do this) "one of yours?" and I go "yeah, one of mine" and I either say "let them go" or "let them not go" |
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SketchCow |
"Ah, someone's uploading funerals" |
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SketchCow |
UPLOADING FUNERALS TOTALLY MAKES SENSE |
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SketchCow |
UPLOADING PILES OF ACTIVIST HORSESHIT MAKES SENSE |
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SketchCow |
UPLOADING BOOTLEG CONCERT FOOTAGE MAKES SENSE |
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SketchCow |
I feel like you're arguing with a cop, randomly, about whether you've been speeding recently |
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SketchCow |
And the cop's just sitting on a corner directing kids across a crosswalk |
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SketchCow |
But I mean |
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SketchCow |
< vxbinaca> If you ask again to hold onto the videos, I will cease all ripping, abandon my collections, give what's left of my etherium I pay rent on servers with to the head of my group, and walk until my local projects are done. Than that's it. I'll find another hobby |
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vxbinaca |
I'm not arguing with you, I'm pointing out that as time goes on I eneded up doing what you wanted anyway. Both at the reauest of staff and because I can't take on large projects. |
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SketchCow |
That needs to be shouted with a megaphone while you're standing on a ledge |
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SketchCow |
Very... hostage-situation |
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SketchCow |
Why are we having this discussion |
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SketchCow |
You're coming in to tell me you're doing things |
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SketchCow |
The derive queue is going to be fine or not fine |
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SketchCow |
We run cheap |
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SketchCow |
We lose 5-10 drives a week |
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SketchCow |
We don't lose the data |
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SketchCow |
But we lose the drives |
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vxbinaca |
Oh no not at all. I don't want to argue with you or be in conflict. I spend money out of my own pocket to run things on my end. If it's not wanted or causing trouble, bye . I don't want to cause you trouble. |
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SketchCow |
Ahem |
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SketchCow |
=============================================================================================== |
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SketchCow |
YOU ARE DOING FINE, CONTINUE YOUR WORK CITIZEN, ENJOY YOUR DAY |
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SketchCow |
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vxbinaca |
Alright. Fine. Thank you. |
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vxbinaca |
@sketchcow In closing, he thanked you all and not me: https://youtu.be/WdCES55f9To?t=460 |
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SketchCow |
Almost as if people on the internet use incomplete information to make delcarations and thanks |
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vxbinaca |
I actually prefer he tanked you all instead of me |
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vxbinaca |
I don't do what I do for personal recognition. |
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godane |
SketchCow: the only alex jones stuff i upload is the audio of his radio show |
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godane |
we are talking shows from 2003 though |
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