#archiveteam-bs 2018-07-13,Fri

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00:48 πŸ”— Arrhenius hello
01:27 πŸ”— godane so that 'the jam video snap' tape as no video for some reason
01:27 πŸ”— godane must be too old
01:27 πŸ”— godane i will put no-video in title name
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02:22 πŸ”— godane so i found this on a vhs tape : http://vhscollector.com/movie/has-anybody-seen-my-pants
02:22 πŸ”— godane the oldest tape i found so far in box
02:22 πŸ”— godane inless you count the few betas that i can't digitize
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04:33 πŸ”— * Stiletto is starting to think he should send godane his mom's small collection of VHS tapes
04:33 πŸ”— Stiletto or is it just for SketchCow
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04:34 πŸ”— Stiletto it doesn't matter since I can't swing the shipping right now regardless :P
04:34 πŸ”— Arrhenius somewhere around here i have a) a usb floppy drive and b) a bag of floppies with mailing lists from the late 90s
04:34 πŸ”— Arrhenius somewhere.
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04:37 πŸ”— kiska Flashfire you wanted an alternative to IRC. I've set up a zulip server on my home connection, you can try it out to see if you like it.
04:38 πŸ”— Flashfire I am right at the moment but thanks
04:38 πŸ”— Flashfire I may take you up on it at a later date
04:38 πŸ”— kiska Alright, its at https://zulip.kiska.pw if you wanted to access it
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04:56 πŸ”— godane Stiletto: if you sent it to SketchCow he can sent it me
05:11 πŸ”— eientei95 godane: What's the best way to digitise books/magazines?
05:11 πŸ”— eientei95 Just paid $200 for a box of Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, Worlds of IF and Galaxy magazines from the late '60s-mid '70s
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05:18 πŸ”— godane eientei95: this Galaxy Magazine: https://archive.org/details/galaxymagazine
05:18 πŸ”— Flashfire What’s the cheapest way to do it as a mostly broke 18 year old?
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05:19 πŸ”— godane eientei95: i use a vuescan in windows xp virtualbox to scan using plustek opticbook 4800
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05:21 πŸ”— godane i normally have restart the vbox after about 70 pages cause it start to take longer to scan each page after the first 40
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05:21 πŸ”— godane but thats cause its in a vbox
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07:48 πŸ”— SketchCo1 https://www.thedailybeast.com/hhs-plans-to-delete-20-years-of-critical-medical-guidelines-next-week
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCo1 So honestly
07:49 πŸ”— SketchCo1 is now known as SketchCow
07:50 πŸ”— godane hey SketchCow
07:51 πŸ”— godane did you see the computer chronicles episode i found?
07:55 πŸ”— kiska3 Didn't we already download that using archivebot earlier?
08:03 πŸ”— SketchCow We did it, but I want us to be super extra special sure.
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09:38 πŸ”— Jon eientei95, awesome :-)
09:39 πŸ”— Jon eientei95, I use a hopper-feed on an MFC at the University I'm attached to. but the drawback is it only does lossy compressed stuff : JPEG, or JPEG-in-PDF, or JPEG-in-TIFF (the last one caught me by surprise)
09:39 πŸ”— Jon eientei95, and probably not easy to belt feed copies of those magazines, very delicate paper
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09:47 πŸ”— JAA My US/AU Runes of Magic forum grab finished around 00:30 UTC and grabbed almmost 16k threads as far as I can see. The EU one is still running.
09:48 πŸ”— JAA almost*
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09:50 πŸ”— Flashfire Did it finish successfully?
09:53 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, I think so. Haven't looked at the actual data yet, but the log only mentions a handful of errors (a few redirect loops due to the same issue we saw in ArchiveBot, and a handful of timeouts) and those URLs were all retrieved successfully on retry.
09:54 πŸ”— Flashfire Ok then cause the archivebot jobs are still running into errors on the runes of magic
09:55 πŸ”— JAA Yep, IP bans tend to be quite effective.
09:55 πŸ”— Flashfire lol
09:55 πŸ”— Flashfire but we grabbed them another way?
09:55 πŸ”— Flashfire is what you are saying
09:56 πŸ”— JAA Yes, I should have all public forum posts on the US forums.
09:57 πŸ”— Flashfire ok
09:57 πŸ”— Flashfire and the EU one?
09:58 πŸ”— JAA Still running. 110k URLs retrieved, 53k in queue currently.
09:58 πŸ”— Flashfire ok
09:58 πŸ”— kiska3 Are you rate limiting yourself, as that may have been the cause of the IP ban along with the session database stuff
10:02 πŸ”— JAA kiska3: I'm almost certain that the ban was purely due to the session table issues. I'm not rate-limiting directly, but I only use 3 concurrent connections, so it's automatically limited to a few requests per second (because of latency and their servers being somewhat slow).
10:03 πŸ”— Flashfire In queueing some old sites I have been getting some interesting error codes from archivebot
10:03 πŸ”— Flashfire havent seen a 416 and a 451 befoe
10:03 πŸ”— kiska3 Also their forum software is.......... anarchic
10:04 πŸ”— Flashfire i found it on the archiveteam subreddit which I have been frequenting
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10:07 πŸ”— JAA Flashfire: Those are normal. I've seen inexistent codes like 470 and 999 before.
10:08 πŸ”— JAA 999 is what LinkedIn uses instead of 429 to tell you you're going too fast, for example.
10:10 πŸ”— Flashfire Also have been queueing some stuff from /r/forgottenwebsites
10:10 πŸ”— Flashfire Mainly because my upvoting account needed to do some hiding
10:11 πŸ”— jut_m We will be seeing 451 a lot more, because of GDPR
10:13 πŸ”— kiska3 I guess that will be for all EU based pipelines, and not for others
10:14 πŸ”— Flashfire Yeah I tried to queue a site the other day blocked in the EU but was to lazy to try and find a non EU pipeine
10:15 πŸ”— Flashfire Cause those sites are still accessible through the wayback machine as a loophole i guess
10:16 πŸ”— Flashfire wacotrib.com
10:16 πŸ”— Flashfire if anyone wants to do what I am to lazy to do
10:17 πŸ”— Flashfire Someone will need to expire the old job as well
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13:17 πŸ”— jut Has anybody tried running the script on Windows subsystem for linux?
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13:24 πŸ”— Meroje no, but should work
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14:13 πŸ”— JAA So the Runes of Magic forums are gone now, and my EU grab didn't finish in time unfortunately.
14:15 πŸ”— kiska That is unfortunate
14:16 πŸ”— kiska However you did grab a partial copy that is still usable?
14:19 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, I grabbed slightly over 100k thread pages successfully.
14:19 πŸ”— JAA From about 76k threads.
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14:20 πŸ”— JAA Don't remember how many threads the homepage claimed there were.
14:23 πŸ”— JAA Wait a second, actually, my grab might've finished just in time.
14:25 πŸ”— JAA Nope, definitely missed content.
14:33 πŸ”— JAA But it looks like it didn't miss much.
14:34 πŸ”— JAA Just a few dozen subforum pages and the threads on those, it seems. Can't be 100 % sure though since I didn't do any detailed analysis of the data, only the log.
14:37 πŸ”— JAA Homepage of the EU forums claimed 176k threads, for the record. But given how large the mismatch on the other forums were, I assume a significant portion of those are in private sections.
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16:18 πŸ”— godane So i found out about this: http://www.chedd-angier.com/frontiers/season1.html
16:20 πŸ”— eientei95 http://www.chedd-angier.com/video/SAF/SAF_101.webm
16:20 πŸ”— eientei95 Nice
16:21 πŸ”— eientei95 VHS digitisations judging by the slight cracks in the audio
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16:58 πŸ”— godane its also in mp4
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18:53 πŸ”— JAA We should set up a hotline for #archiveteam. "If you want to know more about ZetaBoards, please press 1. If you're here because of guideline.gov getting deleted, press 2."
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19:25 πŸ”— tapedrive "If you want to tell us to stop downloading something, please type /quit"
19:27 πŸ”— jut that can be the topic for #archiveteam
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20:30 πŸ”— HCross SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_zetaboards_20180711235004 - can you please make a collection for these Zetaboards and put these items in it?
20:30 πŸ”— HCross cc arkiver
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