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How would I use Wikiteam to dump a wiki with $wgEnableAPI=false; set? |
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powerKitt: By using Special:Export? |
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https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Special:Export Trying to dump the GamerGate wiki but it's really locked down for some reason |
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(I don't agree with #GamerGate, but I think dumping it would be useful for future historians trying to understand what happened) |
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We are featured on https://youtu.be/FeAMpG4KbEc. |
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To back up Google+. |
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It's the last part of the video. |
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https://archive.org/details/youtube-FeAMpG4KbEc tubeup mirror |
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JAA: The tool tcp_closer ↑ works very well when gdb does not. |
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(With the -t parameter you could even run it as a cron job to auto-fix stuck connections.) |
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PurpleSym: Good to know, thanks! |
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Won't work on all pipelines due to the kernel version requirement (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS still has 4.4, for example), unfortunately. |
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The -t option seems very nice indeed. |
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There’s always a catch. You don’t even need cron though. I’m running it as `tcp-closer -t 300000 -i 120 -d 443 -d 80` on my pipelines now. |
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That closes connections idle for 5 minutes every two minutes. |
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Hmm, are there any valid connections which may be idle for 5 minutes? |
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Seems a bit short to me. |
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I’m not sure, but I can’t think of any reason for idling 5 minutes right now. |
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But if you’re uncomfortable with that, we can always push it up to 30 or 60 minutes. |
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minoa: Are the SVGs stored on the same host and in the same directory (or a subdirectory) as the main page you pass to wget? |
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minoa |
Yes, but right now I am trying with robots turned off. |
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minoa |
Ah, I got it now: wget -ckm -e robots=off --user-agent="(Agent)" "https://minoa.li/" --warc-file="minoa". I never intended to block archive sites, and I thought ia_archiver did the trick … at the time. |
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Ah yeah, "User-agent: * Disallow: /". :-| |
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minoa |
I will whitelist ArchiveBot. Sorry for any inconvenience |
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ArchiveBot ignores robots.txt anyway. |
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minoa |
I was after the SEO and referrer spammers, not archivsts. |
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And the ia_archiver block should make it visible on the Wayback Machine, I think. |
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(Except for those two directories, obviously.) |
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They are for internal use only. Not private but intended for other sites. |
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(By the way, if you haven't, take a look at our wiki page on robots.txt also.) |
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I saw that, but be assured I am only after the referrer spammers, not you. In fact I only learned about you today. |
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minoa |
So now I created a WARC dump: should it be compressed, and if so, what format? |
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gzip if poss |
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I think wget should already write gzipped WARCs. Note that this is not the same as writing an uncompressed WARC and then running it through gzip. Each WARC record is compressed individually to allow random access. |
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I know the WARC is gzipped, but I am referring to packing the complete archive for submission, when ready |
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I am also going to backup a MediaWiki wiki: https://nsindex.net - what considerations are needed for MediaWiki sites, because if I recall correctly there some pointless pages to skip (like the login page). |
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minoa: If the MediaWiki API is available you can use a special tool to dump the entire wiki through the API |
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https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=WikiTeam#Tools_and_source_code |
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Though it's probably a good idea to grab it as static WARC files as well |
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MrRadar |
In addition the ArchiveBot project has a bunch of exclusion regexes that are useful for MediaWikis: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot/blob/master/db/ignore_patterns/mediawiki.json |
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I know dumpBackup.php and dumpUploads.php, but I thought you may prefer as it would appear now. |
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Both are useful in different contexts |
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minoa |
It's not like NSindex is disappearing on 20 March, I have backing up high in my priority list. |
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But due to personal health issues I feel a checkpoint is in order. |
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I think I am a bit too new to archiving NSindex from the Archive Team side — maybe I will have to submit the site to the queue while I deal with the dump scripts sort of thing. |
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I do not even know if a Warrior VM will let me archive my own sites. |
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Warrior is for big things |
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#archivebot for one off |
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https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/grab-site for personal archiving |
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I probably have to come back here on 21 March if #archivebot does not have a scheduling system. |
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BTW, what does it mean by “we are not the Internet Archive”? I know about robots.txt being ignored (which is not always a bad thing), but is there anything that I have missed? |
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We upload our stuff to the Internet Archive but we have no official connection to them |
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Well, we are not the Internet Archive. We're a group of crazy people who throw terabytes of archives into IA each day, but everything we do is completely separate from IA's infrastructure and organisation. |
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minoa: it's clear archive.org wants a little distance. First off, you aren't their employees... |
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minoa |
I wanted to make sure I get everything right before submitting NSindex to archivebot. I don't want to make a mistake that may upset you or something. |
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ArchiveBot's quite busy currently, so unless nsindex.net is in danger of disappearing soon, I'd suggest we delay that until we have more free resources. |
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But you can archive it yourself with grab-site if you want. |
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(Downside: it won't become available in the Wayback Machine.) |
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And if I can use grab-site, how do I submit the completed project? |
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You can upload it to the Internet Archive directly. |
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I used to upload monthly data dumps there until they removed it. It was at https://archive.org/details/nsindex |
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Well, in that case, you should probably talk to IA before reuploading it (in whichever format). |
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Sent the email off to them. |
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Thanks for the help so far. |
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JAA: So, I installed Python 3.7.2 https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-372/ (Windows x86-64 embeddable zip file) - I tried to install snscrape but not sure how, I tried downloading Windows help file and opened it, but it didn't seem to work...what |
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So yeah I'm stuck at the moment~ |
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Ryz: I probably won't be able to help you with that since I haven't used Windows in many years. Stack Overflow suggests that the installation comes with pip and you should therefore be able to run 'pip install snscrape', possibly explicitly specifying a path for pip or pip.exe. But I'm sure someone else in this channel has installed Python packages on Windows before and can help you better. |
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Oh, so use the installer instead that has pip |
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