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ayanami_ |
On this "Miss O" website, there's no visible way I found to customize my own profile. I probably need their app to do that. What the fuck is up with companies and them just outright ignoring the PC nowadays? Everything is restricted to apps, apps, apps, get the full experience in our app, yada yada yada. Most kids of my generation haven't even touched a PC outside of their school/local library. It's sad. |
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ayanami_ |
Wait SHIIIIT |
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ayanami_ |
ive been posting in the WRONG channels the whole time |
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ayanami_ |
fuckfuckfuck |
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ayanami_ |
and i can't delete my messages. FUCKFUCK |
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ayanami_ |
I feel like Franktown Rocks might need a crawl more than Miss O/Girl2Girl though |
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JAA |
-ot for context. |
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ayanami_ |
Ah, sorry |
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ayanami_ |
Forgot to provide |
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ayanami_, you're not wrong about smart phones causing the web to become shit. |
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superkuh |
They're such bad computers. |
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superkuh |
Devs have to bend over backwards to support them. |
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JAA |
They don't "have to", but they do. |
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ayanami_ |
Anyways, as I said in -ot (on accident), I feel like Franktown Rocks (http://www.franktownrocks.com/) might need a crawl, mainly due to the fact that A) it's a dead game. Nobody is playing it. B) the use of Flash, which is going to go away in 2020, and C) their Twitter was last updated in 2011 |
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ayanami_ |
Also D) It's still using HTTP. |
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ayanami_ |
No HTTPS. |
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superkuh |
Right. They're incentivized to do so while working paid jobs because it's faster and obfuscation helps the companies. Then for some inexplicable reason they take that design philosophy home. |
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ayanami_ |
One issue is Flash - can ArchiveBot do Flash content properly or does it struggle with it? |
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ayanami_ |
Mainly because when you get to the website, it asks you to turn on Flash, but the website doesn't really rely on Flash entirely - I think it's just the homepage and the game itself |
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JAA |
ayanami_: It can retrieve the SWF, but if there's any interactive requests, nope. |
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Flashfire |
Archivebot has always struggled with flash |
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JAA |
No struggle, it never even attempted to do anything with Flash. |
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Flashfire |
I was making a tongue in cheek joke about myself jaa |
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JAA |
"The only way to win is to not play the game" or something along those lines. |
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JAA |
Oh, whoosh. |
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Flashfire |
lol |
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Sokar |
yea, the site I'm doing historical research on (desertbus) decided to move to the nuxjs stuff last year, even figuring out how to archive the current stuff on there has been a nightmare, and archive can't archive it anymore just gets 404 errors |
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Sokar |
a move done in part for "better mobile support" funny how I don't own a "mobile" device with enough ram to even load the website |
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JAA |
(Insert that meme I don't know how to describe: Design a nice site that's responsive and uses only CSS3? Naah. Cram three JS frameworks together and produce a giant /app.js that requires 1 GB of RAM to execute? Oh yeah!) |
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Sokar |
I believe that is the "chasing the latest trend" meme |
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ayanami_ |
Miss O and Friends/Girl2Girl is also another choice because A) semi-inactive website, last forum post was 9 hours ago, and some forum boards had their last post between a day and a month ago. and B) they might store passwords in plaintext, depending on the email I got, so one data breach could possibly fuck them up, especially since most users are under 13 (Miss O is a social network for kids). Then again, it is still |
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ayanami_ |
technically active in some way and seems fine for now, so a crawl might not be needed. An issue with archiving it though is the age of the users, would archiving material from kids under 13 be a COPPA violation of some sort? |
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ayanami_ |
Wow so the latest post I found was 2 hours ago. Why you lyin', Miss O? |
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ayanami_ |
*some forum boards or posts |
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ayanami_ |
Forgot to clarify that, sorry |
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ayanami_ |
Huh, I posted something and it says it's under "moderation". Maybe that's the reason for the inactivity? |
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ayanami_ |
But it still poses a general question: would it be OK to archive material made by children under 13 (if it's on a website intended for kids under 13)? Would it be a COPPA violation? Would we need to get permission to archive a website of that kind of sort? |
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Server outage? |
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ayanami_ |
https://goteen.net Here's another semi-dead website I found, last posts in most boards were in 2017. Maybe we should ArchiveBot this one. |
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ayanami_ |
(also suggested this in #archivebot) |
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chfoo: the is a huge mirror of random buffy sites, offline.buffy.de |
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Igloo |
bsmith093: already been done with the archivebot |
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Igloo |
I did it the other day |
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JAA |
Igloo: Because bsmith093 asked in #archiveteam a week ago. :-) |
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JAA: I knew I did it for a reason =] |
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Flashfire |
I did a bit of maintenance on the Webroasting stuff will work on it more tommorow |
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paul2520 |
could we get http://pinetechnicalcommunitycollege.blogspot.com/2010/10/ crawled? not necessarily in danger, but I just get chills when I see super outdated blogs not currently in the Wayback Machine... |
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Igloo |
Sure paul2520 |
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Igloo |
Jump into #archivebot |
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godane1 |
i'm uploading a anime magazine called amhmagz |
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ATrescue2: Can you stop creating random templates already? |
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JAA |
And why did you recreate Template:W2+? I thought I was clear enough yesterday. |
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PurpleSym |
*sigh* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ATrescue |
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PurpleSym: Can you make the bot announce template changes as well please? |
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thanks Igloo |
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One Week |
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SketchCow |
Because apparently they don't mind causing a shitbox of trouble and fuck working with a team |
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SketchCow: Hello there. I haven't read the IRC messages yet until now. Sorry. JAA: I was trying to help. I recreated the template only for the meantime until the links get fixed. Then, I would have removed it. |
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I've gotten to spend healing time scrolling back watching you ignoring people |
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When the team has someone who decides they have a superior way and they just blast through the place, people lose energy |
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Teams dissipate |
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I don't care if you're solving cold fusion |
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SketchCow: This is the first time I opened this IRC client today. |
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Oh, you're a fuckin' peach |
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You think this just happened TODAY? |
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SketchCow |
MONTHS |
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SketchCow: The other times I opened IRC were from the other devices. |
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SketchCow |
MONTHS you've been doing this |
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Ok, time to go change the new user password! |
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SketchCow |
Now I have to remember how to do that. |
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Kaz |
ah, we had a good run with that one |
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SketchCow |
When, you know, half the comments and edits are people going "Please don't" right after the guy |
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I don't care how "productive" he is. |
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I just super-blocked him. |
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SketchCow |
A friend just died, it would mean a lot to me if people could archive everything he touched. |
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/cw_infosec |
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SketchCow |
I am really crushed |
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SketchCow |
This guy was so fuckin' nice |
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SketchCow |
A real gem, can't believe I outlived him |
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1129052206467112960 |
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SketchCow |
He literally tweeted me 2 days ago to wish me well on my heart issues |
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phuzion |
I'm sorry to hear about that, Jason. I hope you're doing alright. |
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SketchCow |
The thing is, that's not the first time someone has wished me well on heart recovery and they themselves died shortly after |
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JAA |
Damn, sorry you have to go through that. |
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PurpleSym |
JAA: Sure, any other namespace I should include? (list: https://www.archiveteam.org/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces&formatversion=2) |
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JAA |
PurpleSym: Category maybe? Not sure about Talk, but we shouldn't use it anyway. Otherwise, seems fine. File is already included, right? |
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PurpleSym |
Yeah, (Main) and File are included right now, I’ll add Template and Category. |
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JAA |
SketchCow: Scraped some Twitter profiles now. Specifically: cw_infosec, cloudpassage, baythreat, and si1isec. Will throw those and the related websites into ArchiveBot shortly. Let me know if there's anything else that should be covered. |
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SketchCow |
https://twitter.com/_cw_ |
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SketchCow |
I found his secret person |
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JAA |
Scraped that as well. |
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godane1 |
latest scans : https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-scans-26908720 |
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Ryz |
Since the YouTube Gaming portion of YouTube is shutting down, the only thing I can think of saving are the game pages themselves since they seem to be auto-generated; wondering if they're removing the interface, but keeping the games section? |
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Ryz |
Thoughts on this JAA? |
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Ryz: I have no idea what YouTube Gaming is. |
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Sokar |
Their twitch "competitor" |
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JAA |
Like Google+ was a competitor to Facebook? |
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Sokar |
you got it |
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Sokar |
half-assed implementation, stuipd restrictions / other problems the works |
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JAA |
So there's basically just https://www.youtube.com/gaming and channels for each game they have listed? |
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Ryz |
Their implementation of YouTube Gaming, for those that don't use it at all, video gaming videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2nCO4DCWew would have something like "Super Mario Bros 3: Mario Forever - 2004 (YouTube Gaming)" |
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Ryz |
Under the metadata, which is auto-added a bot I assume |
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Ryz |
And there would be auto-generated pages like https://gaming.youtube.com/game/UCp-u0KRu4PAlFRzF64DH0Ug |
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JAA |
The videos themselves are independent though, i.e. they won't be affected by the shutdown apart from minor cosmetic differences? |
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Ryz |
Fangames can somehow go in here, as this is definitely not an official Nintendo game |
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Sokar |
as for as I understand it, the videos will stay on their creator's youtube pages, but who knows for sure |
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Ryz |
The only thing I can think of that's considering remotely wroth saving are probably the game pages, as I think up of a possibility of what YouTube determines if a game page should be created or not |
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Ryz |
There's this YouTube gaming page when viewing a video: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=xeY7bW9z3zE |
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JAA |
Oh, I see, it's gaming.youtube.com which is going away, not the page I linked above. According to https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/6057845?hl=en anyway. |
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JAA |
Sounds like only the interface is changing. |
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Flashfire |
Damn that list is sad to look at |
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Ryz |
Needs more and more looting |
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Flashfire |
I was going to suggest an archivebot page for that one |
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