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so channel suggestions: #theisolatedartists or ... #theabandonoftheartists ... |
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We had a fiber cut 1.1km from the data center, at a junction box, in Richmond CA (which is different than the Richmond District of SF, which is where HQ is). |
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SketchCow |
The fiber people took a fucking nap and spent 12 hours before they got someone to fly in and fix it and do the splicing, I expect yelling |
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Once they actually showed, they fixed it in about 2 hours. |
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Both datacenters (SF and Richmond) stayed up during all this, so some functions stayed going, because they used minor connections. |
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We TRIED to shift things to our smaller connections, but as you can imagine, The Archive bandwidth is no small fuckin' potatoes. So TV worked, the rest didn't. |
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SketchCow |
NEXT |
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Webcite is doomed, we should archive it whenever it shows. The guy's a tool. |
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And it's basically one guy |
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FOS was redirected to Fusl, who took the load while IA's net connection jacked off, thanks to Fusl for doing that. Glad it was relatively short. |
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Like everything else, FOS stayed around the whole time, no power outage, just bored as fuck and wondering why it didn't get any good info |
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luckcolor: Do what you want, don't ask for permission |
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Ask for permission when it leans on resources |
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Do all the research you want |
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SketchCow: we have an alert configured for when webcite reappears that we start archiving it |
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JAA: i need to borrow your brain when you're around |
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JAA and others: i need a way to scrape all followers and friends of a specific twitter account without using the official API or account credentials. any way i could do that? |
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Fusl |
or maybe extract mentioned and retweeted profile names from the tweets using snscrape? |
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Fusl: I believe that followers and followees are only accessible when logged in. So I don't think that's possible. Retweets are also not possible with snscrape since the search doesn't return them. Mentioned users should be possible by using --format '{content}' plus grep, sed, or similar. You could also get users that tweeted at a particular account with snscrape twitter-search 'to:username' |
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JAA: wanna add an implementation into snscrape to print all the mentioned profile urls along with each tweet url? would make auto discovery for me much easier |
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Fusl: Hmm, I guess I could add something like outlinks/outlinksss for mentioned users and perhaps also the previous user if it's a reply to someone else's tweet. I'll look into that. |
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jrwr |
@JAA I'm helping luckcolor get his project to save the artist union online, hes willing to make the warrior as he has been writing some code in golang, I pointed him to wget-lua |
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jrwr |
@Arkiver2 you might want to get in on this as well |
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jrwr: this is irc, no @ needed :P |
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JAA |
Sounds good. |
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Fusl |
whoops |
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i thought this was -bs |
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JAA |
So... bridge? Yes, bridges are often awful, but if we do want to get people on board who use Discord and don't want to figure out IRC, then that might be a viable solution. |
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I'm not convinced we want that though. |
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One thing I want to clear up ASAP is how many channel we've got in discord already: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/23lCYHZV/image.png |
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Kaz |
if we're doing this, imo each channel should be linked to an irc channel (other than bot-related shit) |
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Kaz |
everything else needs to be deleted |
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Kaz |
there will never be enough traffic in any of the infra channels to justify their existence |
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Kaz |
#archiveteam, -bs and -ot only |
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Kaz |
cc jrwr |
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hook54321 |
I think bibanon uses a bridge, it seems to work okay for them. I'm a little hesitant on if we want to bridge with a discord server though since it might attract angry people that otherwise wouldn't have been able to figure out IRC. |
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If we’re not going for bridging then we will end up with separate communities at some point. |
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Kaz |
kicks/bans still work on discord, that doesn't change anything imo |
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jrwr |
I'll setup a bridge for the main channels |
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jrwr |
Already looked into it |
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jrwr |
Im going to bridge archiveteam archiveteam-bs and archiveteam-ot |
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jrwr |
setting up a dedicated VPS with Hetzner now |
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jrwr |
So, What EFNet server is the most stable right now? |
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jrwr |
irc.servercentral.net seems pretty good |
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luckcolor |
yeah a bridge is a good idea |
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luckcolor |
i've been to another discord wich used that and it helps |
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archghost |
can you please bridge to the matrix as well? |
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jrwr |
Ill look into it as well |
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hook54321 |
This is what bibanon uses for bridging https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge |
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hook54321 |
Someone in the matrix channel told me it looks ugly and recommended these instead, i know nothing about them https://github.com/Half-Shot/matrix-appservice-discord, https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc |
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JAA |
jrwr: They're all bad really. Port80 has been pretty stable the last few months. |
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AT-Bridge |
<JRWR> Hello from Discord |
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jrwr: Is it possible to have 1:1 user mapping instead of a dedicated bridge user? |
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jrwr |
not in IRC |
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jrwr |
but in discord, if your name matches, it will be there |
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PurpleSym |
Well, that sucks. |
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jrwr |
its a IRC limitation |
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JAA |
Only possible if you either open a connection to IRC for every user on Discord (bad) or run your own IRC server. |
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jrwr |
Ya |
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AT-Bridge |
<Fusl> welllllllllllllllllllllllll i know someone who has a server with many ip addresses attached :P |
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AT-Bridge |
<JRWR> Ipv6 all the things |
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<Fusl> and that |
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hook54321 |
I believe that's how matrix-appservice-irc does it :/ |
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PurpleSym |
There’s two modes and yes, one of them creates one connection per user. (Full disclosure: I’m on matrix right now.) |
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<Fusl> i tried matrix on weechat but couldnt get it working |
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<Fusl> i mean, i have it working now but for some reason i cant join any channels and dont know enough about matrix to figure out why not |
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PurpleSym |
Does it work with, say, the web client (Riot)? |
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atbrdg |
<Fusl> i guess it would |
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I guess the question is: do the admins of the used EFnet server have a problem with it? And the answer to that probably depends on the number of users. |
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PurpleSym: for single-person bridges I'm sure it's fine, but I'm under the impression EFNet wouldn't be a fan of someone operating a big multi-user bridge. |
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A number of servers don't allow any bots in the first place, so... |
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<Fusl> lol |
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SketchCow |
NO CHAT BRIDGES IN ACTIVE ARCHIVE TEAM CHANNELS |
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SketchCow |
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I got it SketchCow, Ill yell at the people who wanted to go up a creek |
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The discord is already a 4/10 idea, this would make it a -4/10 |
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SketchCow |
Fusl: Right now, FOS is doing a number of projects, hence only a few TB free |
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SketchCow |
It was at 5tb filled, now down to 1.1tb (on Archivebot) for example |
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SketchCow |
Every time I try to stick my hand into the archivebot uploader, something gets the fuck snapped out of it |
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SketchCow |
I could take a shot. |
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SketchCow |
It takes it 2 minutes to upload 5gb. |
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SketchCow |
OK, I took a shot. There's now an archiveteam surgical uploader |
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Fusl |
a what |
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Igloo |
A big hammer. |
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Igloo |
Also, Discord, No ta, I have enough with work slack, teams, webex teams, skype for business. Then all the phone whatsapp yada yada |
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SketchCow: If we don't want bridges (and I agree they're ... not great), then I suggest not starting chats on other platforms. The community split is unavoidable otherwise. |
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astrid |
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I don't like there's a discord |
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SketchCow |
I can't stop people from having a discord |
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SketchCow |
What I can do is make the discord be its own thing and say, as always, that #archiveteam on #EFNet and the related channels are the official channels |
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SketchCow |
And if someone ever goes "but it was on the discord", fffffffffffffffff |