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alexs_ |
question about the Yahoo! video archive |
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alexs_ |
I can't find users 55000-60000 on the archive.org dump |
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where could I go to find that data |
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alexs_ |
Also, for a user I could find, I couldn't seem to all their videos in the dump |
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*to find all their videos |
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I wish I had been archiving all the youtube videos of store surveillance cameras and police dash/lapel videos of armed criminals being shot, or unarmed clerks being shot. The SJWs have been convicing YouTube to remove them as they were a strong convincing pro-gun argument for law abiding citizens and employees. |
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had like 60 of them bookmarked and now they're gone :'( |
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astrid |
i'm unaware of such a campaign |
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Raccoon |
maybe Alphabet isn't entirely transparent about its censorship policies |
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Raccoon |
would be great if every video they took down, included a detailed postmortem describing exactly the decision to remove it. |
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astrid |
wouldn't it |
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astrid |
but it's just some dude at a desk getting paid $3/hour to watch gore and poking a kill/keep button |
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Raccoon |
Google created that nonprofit entity to detail all DMCA takedowns of google search results |
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alexs_ |
ok I logged off |
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Raccoon |
but don't feel so generous in exposing their own internal policies |
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alexs_ |
do you know where I should go for my Yahoo Videos archive-related question (if you can see that) |
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astrid |
yeah i see that, sorry i don't have good insight |
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astrid |
this is the right place to ask |
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alexs_ |
ok |
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alexs_ |
I'll ask in #archiveteam-ot as well |
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astrid |
saw that too :) |
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alexs_ |
yeah |
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alexs_ |
I wanted to find videos which had been deleted from YouTube, but may have been on Yahoo Video at the time it was deleted |
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alexs_ |
members of Archive Team who were around back in 2011 might have better insight |
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astrid |
yeah i was, there have been many things happening since and my memory is full |
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astrid |
sorry |
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alexs_ |
https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Video_Warroom According to this the section that I'm looking for was handled by Lambda_Dr/Guan |
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astrid |
ok let me dig thru my irc logs |
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alexs_ |
IDK why they didn't seem to have uploaded it to Internet Archvie |
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*archive |
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astrid |
(i'm chronomex fwiw) |
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alexs_ |
so you handled the users I'm looking for at one time |
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astrid |
what user id in particular |
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alexs_ |
55339 (it's jacksfilms) |
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astrid |
ok |
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alexs_ |
the Internet Archive had 50000-55000 but not 55000-60000 as far as I could tell |
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astrid |
can you link the 50000-55000 for me? i am bad at computers rn |
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alexs_ |
https://archive.org/details/ARCHIVETEAM-YV-0050001-0054999 |
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astrid |
thx |
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astrid |
euh these item names are a mess |
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A user whose records I was able to find (Justine Ezarik/iJustine) did not seem to have all of her uploads in the Internet Archive dump, however (she uploaded at least 200 videos, the file dump doesn't have nearly as many of her videos) |
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I didn't download the files, I just looked at the "View Contents" page if that matters |
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astrid |
aye |
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astrid |
that's fine |
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astrid |
(my name is on this but it was 8 years ago and i have forgotten many things since then, heh) |
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alexs_ |
did some users not get all their videos saved? |
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astrid |
(i am piecing together what happened) |
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(I guess it's possible iJustine deleted some of her videos before they could get grabbed) |
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astrid |
archiveteam was very disorganized until we got the tracker and seesaw system figured out |
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astrid |
which this predates |
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astrid |
sounds like Lambda_Dr did the initial scrape and guan filled in the pages that failed |
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ok |
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alexs_ |
could the video be hidden somewhere in the Internet Archive collection that I couldn't find? It seems to skip over 55000-60000 |
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astrid |
yeah i see that too |
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astrid |
the thing is |
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it could just be that it wasn't uploaded for whatever reason |
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astrid |
there are packs with numbers like 0055001 which are 7 digits long, and other packs with numbers like 002399997 which are 9 digits long |
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astrid |
and there are video ids(?) in that wiki page which are 7 digits long with no leading 0s |
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alexs_ |
yeah i don't know what was going there |
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alexs_ |
the videos are sorted by user ID |
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astrid |
thing is i don't either and i'm not finding a lot of evidence to explain this |
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astrid |
ok that helps |
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alexs_ |
the iJustine find confirmed that |
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alexs_ |
Which is why I bemoaned not being able to find 55000-60000 |
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astrid |
aye |
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astrid |
i will bother underscor sometime soon. send me your email address in PM and i'll get back to you sometime soon? |
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astrid |
traveling this week so i am spotty availability tbh |
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astrid |
or, better, email me astrid@smith.seattle.wa.us |
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ok |
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Was IA hit by the earth quake? Any progess archiving the archive? |
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JAA |
I was wondering about that in the first moment as well, but probably not significantly since the epicentre was a fair bit away from SF. |
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arkiver |
afaik it was not affected |
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_tbhetz |
Did they see disk latency spike ... heh? |
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_tbhetz |
Anyway sorry guys that i ahve not managed to setup an warrion fleet at my student internet provider, since big supprise ... i have to study :) Hope to do that by 2020 :) |
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Are any changes to planned to the warrior infrastructure? |
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alexs_ |
Is there a good earthquake/disaster-related backup plan at the Internet Archive |
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JAA |
_tbhetz: I'm not aware of any plans, but I sure hope things change... |
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_tbhetz |
What problems are there with the trusty old warrior? |
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hook54321 |
If a student internet provider is like university internet access or something it's best not to set one up there if they do filtering. |
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alexs_ |
There is IA.BAK but that's not a big thing at all |
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and there are external mirrors but I'm not sure how complete they are |
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_tbhetz |
There is no filtering |
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_tbhetz |
university multi GBit, symmetric |
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_tbhetz |
(well no filterng except UPD for which we need to get a statefull (CISCO) firewall first (those things are fucking expensive)) |
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_tbhetz |
Anyway yeah, when i find the time to do it (likely not before December) i tell you. |
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_tbhetz |
See you |
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alexs_: IA isn't very open about those internals. There is the online mirror, but that's just a few km from the main DC, so that doesn't help for the earthquake case. I haven't heard anything about the plans in Canada since the end of the donation drive in late 2017, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that that wasn't going to be a full mirror anyway for financial reasons. IA.BAK is an AT |
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JAA |
project which mirrors only very little data and can only do so for publicly downloadable files I believe; I also have no idea how active it is these days. |
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JAA |
But I'm sure the fine folks at IA have thought about this before. Chances are we'll only hear about it after disaster strikes though. |
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alexs_ |
Why can't they just disclose their plans? |
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alexs_ |
They cold be worried about someone trying to bring the whole thing down, I guess |
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alexs_ |
*could |
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JAA |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You'd have to ask them about that. |
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JAA |
(And probably wouldn't get an answer.) |
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alexs_ |
do you have any extra insights about my Yahoo requests? |
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JAA |
Unfortunately no, that was long before my time here. |
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ivan_ |
alexs_: which deleted youtube thing are you looking for? |
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alexs_ |
I was looking for old Jacksfilms videos he deleted |
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ivan_ |
see PM |
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23:53 < _tbhetz> Are any changes to planned to the warrior infrastructure? |
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Igloo |
I have plans. |
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Igloo |
It's being re-done as a docker manager and each project will run as a docker container to get around the funk |
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Igloo |
as different projects ues different scripts needing different requirements |
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i still dont have github org admin access so i cant do any of that stuff that i wanted to do :/ |
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Igloo |
Do we know who owns the account? |
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Igloo |
arkiver: has org rights actually |
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JAA |
GitHub org access is not the problem, Docker Hub is. |
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Igloo |
Github was asked about just by Fusl |
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Igloo |
I did ask about Docker Hub but I don't know who registered it. |
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Fusl |
JAA: we can just as well create a new docker hub account but we cant create a new github account without moving that stuff over :P |
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Kaz |
I have org rights on GH |
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JAA |
Ditto. |
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Igloo |
Makes sense to do that Fusl |
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Igloo |
Get org rights from ^ (me also please if im trusted :p) |
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Igloo |
and make a new hub account. |
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JAA |
I feel like we haven't exhausted all options yet for finding who operates the existing account. |
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JAA |
Would be nice to keep it under "archiveteam". |
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Igloo |
Can we ask them i wonder? :-/ |
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Kaz |
eh |
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Kaz |
why do we keep going in circles with this (or have I missed something?) |
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Kaz |
yipdw created the account |
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Igloo |
Because no onw knew Kaz. |
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Fusl_ |
yipdw probably did but i wasnt able to reach him |
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astrid |
so what remains to be done |
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astrid |
let's stop going in circles |
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astrid |
i will be in chicago shortly |
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JAA |
I'll get in touch with yipdw. |
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astrid |
(as in like sunday or monday, much traveling in my near future) |
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Igloo |
Just get the credentials from yipdw. |
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astrid |
what level of rubber hose do we need to employ |
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Igloo |
4. :-p |
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Fusl_ |
40 |
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Kaz |
Igloo: tbf that bit wasn't aimed at you - we've had this conversation in the past and people *do* know now |
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Igloo |
Fair enough, but as a whole we need to get less shit at this. |
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Igloo |
Anyway, get creds. hand out org rights to Fusl (and I’d like it too). Then we can move on. |
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Fusl_ |
also: https://wiki.opennic.org/opennic/serviceaccounts something like this is what we have over at opennic, may be useful for AT too? |
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JAA |
https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Archiveteam:People |
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JAA |
It's just outdated by five years or something. |
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Fusl_ |
yeah, it looks fairly outdated |
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hook54321 |
I've been meaning to try to remove the people on there that aren't around very often anymore |
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CoolCanuk |
nice to see the wiki is reliable now |
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