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peer) [21:30] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:36] *** HP_Archiv has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:50] *** jason0597 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:56] *** jason0597 has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:06] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:08] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:20] SketchCo1: i'm going after the older podcasts of Joe Rogan [22:21] pattern url is different [22:22] what are people's reccomendations for a filesystem to put on an archival drive? [22:30] *** Ctrl has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:55] what is the nature of the drive and archive. ie, if you're using removable portable 2.5" USB drives primarily or exclusively on Windows systems and they're just write-once-read-many purpose... I'd go for FAT32 (2TB) or exFAT. [22:56] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:56] the most system compatable filesystem is FAT32, and works on almost all embedded devices. [22:56] it's cold storage normal hard drive [22:56] brand new 2TB [22:57] yeah i was thinking of exFAT [22:57] keep whatever it's got if it's already FAT32. exFAT if you want to use your built-in Windows OS formatter software. You'll need third-party software to format FAT32 on anything larger than 32 GB, even though 2TB is supported. [22:58] i was thinking of just running mkfs.exfat on it [22:58] i run linux [22:58] not all embedded equipment, ie, photo kiosks and smart TVs, support exFAT. Some do. [22:58] well, photo kiosks are more likely to support exfat. smart tvs not so much [22:59] i don't think i'll hook this SATA drive onto a photo kiosk or a smart TV ever [22:59] ++ [22:59] when I think of "archive" i think of "what will work on almost everything in the uncertainty of 20 years from now?" [23:00] ohh i'm not that worried about it [23:00] i was thinking of plugging it into a PC every year to check if it's still alive [23:00] but either of the FATs are great for cold storage [23:00] and maybe migrate to a new drive every 5 years [23:00] aka write-once-read-sometimes [23:00] Although Microsoft finally released the exFAT specification last year, it's still patent-encumbered. Personally, I'd probably use ext2 or ext4 depending on the file size requirements. [23:01] (And other factors, obviously.) [23:01] sure, if you absolutely don't want it to read on Windows [23:01] * JAA still hopes that Windows goes to /dev/null one day. [23:01] :-) [23:01] when i think of "archive" i also think of public libraries, and 98% of public libraries are windows-only [23:02] Yes, and that's a mistake. [23:02] it is [23:02] but it is what it is and it be what it be [23:02] what? how are they windows only? [23:02] how do you make a PDF windows only? [23:03] visit your public library [23:03] All their computer systems tend to be Windows-based. [23:03] There are few exceptions. [23:03] err i don't think i can relate as a greek [23:03] i don't even know if we have computers in the public libraries in greece [23:03] lol [23:04] side note. this is the only windows softare that formats FAT32 on large harddrives. http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm [23:04] i don't know what *nix software formats FAT32 on large disks [23:04] Any libraries that do digital archiving? [23:04] To be fair, those are more open to using Linux since a lot of the tools for web archival are based on it. [23:05] s/based on/built for/ [23:05] to be fair, non super-west countries (often poor countries) are very pro-Linux [23:05] so they're ahead of the game [23:05] yes it helps to not pay microsoft fees [23:05] Yes, but they also tend to not have a lot of funds for large-scale web archival either. [23:05] though if a country does try to get ahead of the game, bill gates will fly over there in his private jet and give them a 95% discount [23:06] see south korea and.... belgium i think also tried? [23:06] Turks are still using Windows XP last I heard [23:07] everyone does it [23:07] largely due to the language and unwillingness to switch to UTF8 [23:07] just no one admits it [23:07] XP is still widely used in at least the health sector. Military probably too. [23:07] japan is also craaaaaaaaaaazy for windows XP [23:07] Anyway, this is getting into -ot territory. [23:07] i can't do -ot :'( [23:07] but enjoy [23:08] ok so i'll just use exFAT [23:09] ++ [23:20] *** jason0598 has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:23] *** Arcorann has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:23] *** jason0597 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:50] *** godane has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)