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(For context, this is about https://www.htforum.com/forum/ shutting down on the 28th.) |
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Felisto |
I didn't know it was possible to save a forum without going to cpanel and creating a database file, of course by the admin itself if he planned to move elsewhere. The software I tried here can't save anything properly. This forum is one I haven't checked in years and discovered it became read-mode recently: http://theabsolute.net/phpBB/ - How long until even that is unavailable for the public? This is going on everywhere. |
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Felisto |
I mean, most online forums are dying... |
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Yeah, as I said, there is an ArchiveTeam project for archiving all forums. But there's also so much other stuff dying all the time that not much work has happened on actually doing that. |
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Felisto: Thanks, I've added http://theabsolute.net/phpBB/ to ArchiveBot, so it should all be in the Wayback Machine soon. |
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Felisto |
The worst part about Web Archive (from Internet Archive) is that I know it has saved a few specific threads from a forum (the threads are not available anymore, their oldest backup is years ahead), but I can't tell which ones Web Archive saved and I can't spend 2 years clicking on each link and finding out 99% weren't archived. |
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JAA |
On which forums? |
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JAA |
You can do a wildcard search to see everything that's indexed. |
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E.g. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://theabsolute.net/phpBB/* |
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This is a good example in which we can't tell what has been archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20040929084827/http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=9 - inside this link most have not been saved, but this one was: https://web.archive.org/web/20040727141039/http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=44&PN=1 |
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Felisto: Yes, there is no easy way to tell which of the links on a page have been archived. But you can get a list of *all* archived topics using https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cinemaemcena.com.br/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=* |
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thanks a lot, this was exactly what I was looking for _o/ |
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mgrandi |
does archive bot handle having a custom cookie file? for like when its behind a login wall? |
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mgrandi |
that would help for things like this where it just needs an account to get past a login wall and someone has one |
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Hmm, might make it hard to archive that site then |
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OrIdow6 |
It's a rare enough situation |
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Site is too large to archive via AB in 4 days anyway |
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Just for raw text? Maybe someone can do it with just wget-at |
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mgrandi: AB is slow. wget-at itself is in fact even slower because there are no concurrent requests. It might be feasible with AB by running multiple jobs across several machines or something like that. Otherwise, a DPoS project or qwarc would do. |
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The 1,001 number came from me doing "ls | wc -l" without noticing the sqlite object |
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I was kinda suspecting that :-) |
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According to my deduplicator thingy, I have 533 items with files that were not uploaded previously. |
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Somewhere here, I'm going to screw up, but we'll have lots of new ones get in properly. |
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https://archive.org/details/uta_Xevious_1986_U.S._Gold_4891 is my test. it currently doesn't work. It will eventually work. |
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seems to be working now :) |
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Yeah! |
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Obviously, it doesn't have the settings/style of the rest of the work. |
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But I am 1. going to upload everything absolutely new 2. Figure out what you changed in the ones that aren't 3. Make them all function like the first set. |
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Like, you don't need to do things. And I linked people the nightmarish main archive file primarily and linked to 2.0 from 1.0 like 'go to this one' |
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Xevious is running in my other window, hi xevious |
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Yeah, I get it. |
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Considering it went from 1,000 to 533, I expect most things didn't change. |
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SketchCow |
I've verified all 532 remaining have a .tap file in them, meaning they're md5 different. |
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SLC |
that sounds about right... |
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SketchCow |
Now I have to hack up something going "These are already uploaded in previous ones" |
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SketchCow |
Verified, I can do a lot of this. |
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I suspect I did some custom one-offs |
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SketchCow |
Verified all 533 are new |
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SketchCow |
Anyway. In summary, SLC, it's going to all be fine. Do you use Discord? I have a discord. |
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SketchCow |
All you fucks, I have a discord |
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SketchCow |
https://discord.gg/UKQUvq |
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SLC |
I have discord but usually favor IRC... I'll join in, though. |
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systwi |
Ewww discord :P |
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SketchCow |
ha |
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SketchCow |
Wait |
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SketchCow |
Checking my wallet |
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SketchCow |
Oh here it is |
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Fuck off |
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systwi |
On it |
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