#archiveteam-bs 2012-06-05,Tue

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01:44 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe hmm
01:44 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/06/04/1831228/nosql-document-storage-benefits-and-drawbacks
01:45 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I'm surprised "that video" wasn't mentioned in the first post
01:49 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe "Now I'm cleaning a cistern of chicken shit, but I don't care because I don't have to listen to the nosql fanboys reciting the feature list of their favorite schema-free database."
02:05 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex sounds good to me
02:05 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex where do I sign up
02:10 ๐Ÿ”— underscor "you are going to blow some project to hell, because you get a woody playing with software like it is a sex doll"
02:10 ๐Ÿ”— underscor unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; > finger ; mount ; fsck ; > more ;รฏยปยฟ yes ; umount ; sleep,
02:10 ๐Ÿ”— underscor hahahaha
02:17 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw Coderjoe: that article is nearly content-free
02:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw as is the term "NoSQL"
02:18 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe indeed
02:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I am kind of surprised at how many people just don't get it, but I guess that's what happens when an inaccurate blanket term takes off
02:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw the number of people I've seen who say that CouchDB isn't transactional is kind of amazing
02:19 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw (whatever "transactional" means)
05:14 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwzxDRmBcsI&t=0m15s
05:19 ๐Ÿ”— arrith chronomex: i missed it. what happened?
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex ummm
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex there was some stupid discussion
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I forget what exactly
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— arrith ah
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex but it was stupid, I guarantee you that
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— arrith heh
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— arrith well this channel seems fine for that kind of thing
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex not worth looking for in logs
05:21 ๐Ÿ”— arrith mk
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— arrith Worms Reloaded: Game of the Year Edition install (i guess packed in rars but still) is only 571 MiB
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw arrith: http://badcheese.com/~steve/atlogs/?chan=archiveteam&day=2012-05-27
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw if you still care
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw search for rms
05:26 ๐Ÿ”— arrith ah
05:26 ๐Ÿ”— arrith just dnova
05:26 ๐Ÿ”— arrith thanks btw
06:43 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T i hate debian sometimes. reading that wheezy is set to freeze sometime this month set for a feb 2013 release
06:44 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex heh
06:44 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T im glad they like to make sure everything works but its always so behind in terms of driver support sometimes
06:44 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex it can be slow as fuck sometimes
06:55 ๐Ÿ”— arrith S[h]O[r]T: i think you should run constnatly usable testing
06:55 ๐Ÿ”— arrith or one of the ones based on sid
06:55 ๐Ÿ”— arrith debian is nice since its totally community run but stable enough for top datacenters
06:56 ๐Ÿ”— arrith best of both worlds
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex debian is nice because it does things for you by default but if you tell it to fuck off, it steps away and lets you do it yourself.
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex that's why I use it.
06:59 ๐Ÿ”— arrith S[h]O[r]T: i think you'd be happy with fedora, or i guess arch if you're okay with bleeding edge kernels
06:59 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T yeah i dont use debian internally, but just offer latest for clients who want it.
07:00 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T yeah fedora rarely gives me issues except for getting used to NetworkManager
07:00 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T you cant tell it to fuckoff anymore
07:00 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex sucks
07:01 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T pushed its way into CentOS 6 as well, but its not as bad as it once was in fedora 12/13
07:02 ๐Ÿ”— arrith i like not having to touch a machine for some years unless i want to and there aren't too many distros that offer that without paying for it
13:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG tralalalalala.
13:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG :(
13:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG not the same as trololololol :(
13:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG debian administrators are.... well I can't say nice things
13:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG they all seem so far up their own... yeah.
13:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG :/
13:59 ๐Ÿ”— * SmileyG prefers gentoo :D
14:24 ๐Ÿ”— * S[h]O[r]T high fives SmileyG
14:24 ๐Ÿ”— S[h]O[r]T gentoo ftw
14:24 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG :D
15:25 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw S[h]O[r]T: not sure what you're talking about re: NetworkManager in CentOS 6
15:26 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I've got a CentOS 6.2 stock image here, NetworkManager isn't running
15:58 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex hahahahaha gentoo
16:32 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje chronomex: my sentiments exactly
16:33 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje If I wanted an OS with that little handholding, I'd throw out the cute wrapper and just blast through my own version of hlfs
16:46 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG that little handholding?
16:46 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yes, because theres no gentoo documentation.
16:46 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG because it doesn't fetch and build the sources for all the packages in portage.
16:47 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yup yup
16:47 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but distro wars are pointless :P
16:53 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I know :)
16:53 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I'll always have a special place in my heart for debian, it's what I started on. Taste and preference is exactly that, no point in fighting over it.
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yup
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG thats why I love gentoo
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG i tried suse, debian, centos...
16:57 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG all at a time when I had no pc other the one I was "testing" on, trying to get up and running
16:58 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Gentoo allowed me to do that easily at the time, and I fell in love with its documents and philosphy.
16:59 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje That's good :)
16:59 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yup :LD
16:59 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I figure finding a linux os that's right for you is kind of like finding a good friend
17:00 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje Takes a bit of work, but once you find the right one...
17:00 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje there's nothing that can replace it
17:00 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje My favorites are debian and (curiously) freebsd
17:00 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yeah
17:00 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG We use CentOS at work, some things it does infuriate me, and I'm like "WHY CAN'T YOU BE GENTOO FFS?"
17:01 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I'm not sure what it is about freebsd. There are lots of issues, but when I set it up just the right way, I walk away and don't touch it for a year. I love that.
17:01 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but if I started with CentOS, I'd likely say the same about gentoo
17:01 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje haha yeah centos
17:01 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I tried to make a centos based media center -- learned that was a bad idea :P
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG :D
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Gentoo allows me to "ignore" the system as such, and get on with what I want to do
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG but if I want to get grubby, I can.
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— * Aranje nods
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje tarring the huge user I mentioned earlier
17:02 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje i/o lock reached D:
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG D:
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG slllllllloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje this is gonna eat my internet
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG grub serial console setup. this stuff scares me.
17:03 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje something fierce
17:04 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje haha
17:04 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje user 232354?
17:04 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I think that's just the id he or she is given
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje it?
17:05 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje Whatever, I can't keep track of where we're at with gender equality and shit
17:06 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje heh heh heh `It is also my belief that inside every tool is a HAMMER`
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Aranje: randomly, you don't mess with serial consoles and grub very much do you? :D
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I don't even know what it is :D
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG okj haha
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I was not computing when serial anything was used
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hmmm
17:09 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje (commonly, I guess)
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG lots of stuff still uses serial ;)
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje Haha I'll take your word for it
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I think I know what the plug looks like, but I don't believe I have anything that still has one
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG http://dpaste.org/EGOWq/
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Aranje: tv recievers?
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG routers
17:10 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG raid array devices...
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I dunno what a tv receiver is, and my router does not have one
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje raid devices
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje uhh
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— * Aranje pulls out his 1u and pops it open to see
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG hehe
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje is
17:11 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje IOIOI serial?
17:12 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje Looks like it's got ~9 pins
17:12 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yah
17:12 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje hah, cool
17:12 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje 1u has one
17:12 ๐Ÿ”— * Aranje really should use that thing, it just sits under my bed
17:13 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje 4g of ecc ram, dual processor, 200g of raided 15krpm drives
17:13 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje :/
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje It's a waste not to use, but I've got no place that can silence a jet engine
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe your router almost certainly has one, just not exposed for you to see
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje pins on the inside maybe
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje my linksys's never had one (that was a real plug port)
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje It had a... jtag or whatever
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje for uh emergency recovery >_>
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe cisco likes to shove it into an rj45 connector
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG Aranje: hmmmm 200gb isn't much these days :S
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG even if they 15k rpm drives. :/
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje SmileyG: Yup, it's from 2004 or so though
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yah
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje dual psu, all that jazz
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje separate management board
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG we have aload of old servers like that at work
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 morning
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje it's a nice box
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG we chucked lots in a skip ;D
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje haha
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I wish I could have more, but I've no place to put them
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje they're loud
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG yeah
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— SmileyG one day maybe I'll get a rack in my loft :D
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje :D
17:17 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje Yeah, someday here too :>
22:11 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.behance.net/gallery/VINCCI-BIT-HOTEL/4014281
23:00 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud have you seen this yet (if you're following sketchcow on twitter you have): http://blog.crysys.hu/2012/06/stuxnet-duqu-flame-open-source-license-questions-v0/
23:11 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS Gah, quassel is stuck displaying the wrong nick for me
23:12 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS ...and easily fixed.
23:38 ๐Ÿ”— DoubleJ Odd side effect of AT stuff... the podcast of the Venus transit is very choppy. It may just be the server getting hammered but I'm pretty sure it's at my end.
23:38 ๐Ÿ”— DoubleJ Yay, bandwidth-draining archiving!
23:41 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS Fun!
23:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex archivismfor fun and profit
23:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex mostly fun

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