#archiveteam-bs 2012-06-06,Wed

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04:04 🔗 yipdw http://i.imgur.com/eEbH9.gif
05:18 🔗 chronomex my brother is tromping around greece studying archaeology
05:19 🔗 chronomex I suppose this nonsense runs in the family
06:03 🔗 BlueMax chronomex, archiving is not nonsense. making out with hot Greek women is.
06:04 🔗 chronomex are you serious?!?
06:11 🔗 BlueMax Yes
07:21 🔗 SmileyG_ /nick SmileyG
07:21 🔗 SmileyG_ :(
07:21 🔗 SmileyG_ oh ffs
07:37 🔗 BlueMax lol
07:58 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxjHbe7TrjY
08:02 🔗 BlueMax Looks interesting SketchCow
08:03 🔗 BlueMax Oh wow, the final day of DEFCON 20 is my birthday
08:21 🔗 SmileyG oh nice.
08:24 🔗 SmileyG Is that what you were filming for the other day SketchCow ?
14:19 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/06/06/1335228/linkedin-password-hashes-leaked-online?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
14:37 🔗 SmileyG indeed...?
14:38 🔗 S[h]O[r]T sucks pretty hardware
14:38 🔗 S[h]O[r]T *hardcore
14:38 🔗 S[h]O[r]T its still early :p
15:29 🔗 SmileyG again, use a password manager, and lock it up tight
16:38 🔗 Aranje anybody spry enough to have a copy of that linkedin data?
17:18 🔗 S[h]O[r]T yes
17:19 🔗 S[h]O[r]T http://www.mediafire.com/?n307hutksjstow3
17:19 🔗 S[h]O[r]T if u prefer non mediafire i can host it as well
17:25 🔗 Aranje nah that's perfectly fine
17:25 🔗 Aranje thanks <3
17:57 🔗 yipdw haha
17:58 🔗 yipdw http://twitter.com/#!/search/ruby-lang
17:58 🔗 yipdw single point of failure etc.
17:58 🔗 yipdw this would be funnier if I weren't affected by it too
18:07 🔗 Aranje I lol'd
18:08 🔗 Aranje I find it interesting that it isn't just being given to everyone in packages... Unless most of ruby dev community devs on mac or windows.. :/
18:09 🔗 SmileyG :D
18:09 🔗 SmileyG so.... every time you use it you redownload it or something?
18:12 🔗 yipdw Aranje: Ruby moves really fast
18:13 🔗 yipdw nodejs, Haskell platform, Erlang/OTP sometimes hit the same problems
18:13 🔗 yipdw an excerbating factor is that rvm by default points to ruby-lang.org to grab and install source tarballs
18:13 🔗 yipdw and rvm is really popular
18:15 🔗 Aranje Does it? 1.9.3 isn't very much newer than I remember
18:15 🔗 Aranje the last release I was paying attention to was 1.9.1 and that was because they rewrote the regex parser or something
18:15 🔗 Aranje that was a while ago
18:16 🔗 yipdw Aranje: it moves faster than most packagers, yes
18:16 🔗 Aranje Okay
18:17 🔗 yipdw CentOS 6.2's ruby19 package is 1.9.2-p290
18:17 🔗 yipdw which is behind (latest 1.9.2 release is 1.9.2-p320, and then there's 1.9.3)
18:17 🔗 yipdw Ubuntu 12.04 is, uh
18:17 🔗 SmileyG so why not multiple mirror?
18:18 🔗 yipdw ruby1.9.3-p0
18:18 🔗 yipdw ick
18:18 🔗 yipdw and then there's other Ruby environments like JRuby and Rubinius, in which the packagers are also behind
18:18 🔗 yipdw not necessarily their fault
18:18 🔗 yipdw it's just the way it is
18:18 🔗 yipdw SmileyG: because distribution is hard
18:18 🔗 Aranje I'm on 1.8.7 :)
18:20 🔗 SmileyG o_O
18:20 🔗 SmileyG yipdw: it is o_O?
18:20 🔗 yipdw yes, it is
18:20 🔗 SmileyG sourgeforge, github....
18:20 🔗 SmileyG somethingf that doesnt' go down so much?
18:20 🔗 yipdw are both central points of failure
18:21 🔗 SmileyG use both.
18:21 🔗 yipdw SmileyG: if it were easy, RVM would not have a single URL for retrieving a Ruby tarball, and it would not fail if it couldn't access that single source
18:22 🔗 SmileyG nothing wrong with single url
18:22 🔗 yipdw the fact that it does means that accessing one source is easier than trying multiple
18:22 🔗 SmileyG as long as you got round robin DNS.
18:22 🔗 Aranje Mine says 1.8.7.352
18:22 🔗 yipdw SmileyG: I can't tell if you're trolling me or what
18:22 🔗 SmileyG i'm not :/
18:22 🔗 yipdw I know that a URL doesn't have to resolve to a single location
18:22 🔗 SmileyG you gonna say DNS is a single point of failure?
18:22 🔗 yipdw the point is though that adding that sort of redundancy takes a lot more work than "one repo"
18:22 🔗 SmileyG tbh this seems to be about people being lazy? :D
18:22 🔗 yipdw and it's not easy to do
18:23 🔗 yipdw it also takes more money etc
18:23 🔗 Aranje Mostly the latter
18:23 🔗 SmileyG money.
18:23 🔗 yipdw and yes I will say that DNS is a single point of failure
18:23 🔗 yipdw which can be demonstrated by ICANN fucking up the namespace with their new gTLDs
18:23 🔗 yipdw sure you can exit that but who seriously uses other roots
18:24 🔗 * Aranje uses opennic on every machine he owns or has admin over
18:24 🔗 yipdw we have one person with a few dozen machines
18:24 🔗 yipdw awesome
18:24 🔗 SmileyG ;)
18:24 🔗 yipdw 99.9% of the Internet to go
18:24 🔗 SmileyG That was classic timing ;D
18:25 🔗 yipdw anyway
18:26 🔗 yipdw it's not hard to make rvm use another download site
18:26 🔗 yipdw it's just funny to see a bunch of stuff collapse
22:46 🔗 underscor <yipdw> we have one person with a few dozen machines
22:46 🔗 underscor ha
22:48 🔗 underscor for a while, when I (accidentally!) had my router proxying DHCP requests over the WAN (oops), I ended up leasing opennic to like 35 people
22:48 🔗 underscor It's a long story
22:48 🔗 underscor but I still thought it was cool
22:50 🔗 Aranje lmfao
22:52 🔗 underscor s/router/modem/
22:53 🔗 underscor holey moley, 39 answers for dig -x 207.46.250.119
22:53 🔗 underscor way to go, msft
22:54 🔗 dashcloud am I the only one who gets the feeling we're in the world books like Neuromancer & Snowcrash describe when I read stories about Flame & Stuxnet?
22:54 🔗 underscor hahahahaha
23:00 🔗 arrith underscor: how long did it take for your beta server to show up on your account?
23:01 🔗 underscor I haven't logged back in/gotten an email
23:01 🔗 underscor let me go look
23:02 🔗 arrith underscor: thanks. since i *think* i did everything correctly, but i'm not totally sure it all worked
23:02 🔗 arrith one guy said he signed up on the 25th and got it on the 5th on some forum
23:02 🔗 arrith also people talk about some mailing list for the beta stuff, but i'm not sure where to sign up for that
23:02 🔗 arrith only email i got was notifying me about like logging into my Manager
23:03 🔗 underscor yeah same
23:05 🔗 underscor nope, nothing
23:07 🔗 arrith underscor: even in the acct?
23:07 🔗 underscor in the manager v3 thing
23:07 🔗 arrith yeah
23:07 🔗 underscor nope
23:07 🔗 arrith same here, nothing in email or the manager
23:07 🔗 arrith i guess that's just how they do it
23:08 🔗 arrith radio silence for a week
23:09 🔗 arrith underscor: did you see any way to get an OVH account as a US resident? since according to my ovh acct info i'm in some random english town google gave me
23:09 🔗 underscor hahaha
23:09 🔗 arrith but i really did look for a way to put in united states
23:09 🔗 underscor I put in my real town
23:09 🔗 underscor but a random postal code
23:10 🔗 arrith ahh
23:10 🔗 arrith i just assumed they checked the postal code matched the town
23:10 🔗 underscor dunno
23:10 🔗 arrith but i did randomly copy a postal code too
23:10 🔗 underscor guess we'll see
23:10 🔗 arrith yeah hm, dunno if they match
23:10 🔗 arrith heh
23:10 🔗 underscor I'll just pretend that's the name of my estate
23:10 🔗 underscor and I got confused
23:10 🔗 underscor :D
23:10 🔗 arrith just like "oh yeah.. i moved to the US within the past week. it'd be great to /transfer/ that over to my new address"
23:10 🔗 arrith haha
23:10 🔗 underscor hahahaha
23:11 🔗 arrith "my company, is just so huge.. i forget where our offices are.. stupid countries"
23:14 🔗 underscor lol
23:19 🔗 arrith hm under "Personal Information" in settings they do have an option for "United States" but if you try to change it it gives a message of "changing an account's country is forbidden"
23:19 🔗 arrith maybe if you called you could change it. but yeahh no. i've tried hard enough
23:28 🔗 arrith http://forum.ovh.ie/showthread.php?p=2729
23:28 🔗 arrith about changing country
23:28 🔗 arrith some guy moved out of ireland and support says you should be okay just leaving it as ireland
23:29 🔗 arrith so yes, i have *very recently* moved from the UK
23:43 🔗 underscor hahaha
23:55 🔗 underscor http://imgur.com/gallery/YdDjU
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