[01:55] <underscor> I went to Pride SF and all I got was to hold a 10" cock and a soapy phallus :(
[01:55] <underscor> https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/303536_4132058788383_973150796_n.jpg
[01:59] <Aranje> lol
[02:39] <DoubleJ> And that was even before he got to the parade.
[02:39] <underscor> Parade's tomorrow, actually
[02:40] <underscor> pretty much everyone here made me promise that I'd go
[02:40] <underscor> supposedly it's pretty cool
[02:47] <Aranje> yeah
[02:50] <shaqfu> Totally bizarre question - does archive.org host research data?
[02:51] <shaqfu> (was discussing the NSF data standard earlier and thought about it)
[02:53] <underscor> I mean, they're not opposed to it
[02:53] <underscor> I don't know if we expressly mirror it
[02:54] <shaqfu> If someone wanted to dump their research data from some study on archive.org, they'd be a-okay?
[02:54] <shaqfu> I'm just asking since it's the easiest way to provide long-term access/preservation
[02:54] <underscor> yeah, definitely
[02:54] <underscor> as long as they have the rights for it
[02:54] <underscor> and are okay with some sort of permissive license
[02:54] <underscor> (some CC or PD license)
[02:54] <shaqfu> 'course
[02:55] <shaqfu> It's fed research anyway
[02:57] <shaqfu> I'll keep it in mind - working with a friend on his grant proposal, and some agencies require that to be planned out
[03:01] <underscor> cool!
[03:01] <shaqfu> I'm actually surprised nobody's asked about this before - honestly, I'd trust archive.org before any major uni
[03:02] <underscor> Brewster mentioned at lunch yesterday: "I like to think that it's roughly $2,000 for the lifetime of a TB of data"
[03:02] <underscor> makes mobileme seem a bit more expensive!
[03:02] <underscor> (for IA to store)
[03:02] <shaqfu> That still sounds high to be, but it's better than Rosenthal's $16,000
[03:03] <shaqfu> I always figured that archive.org would achieve the absolute lowest cost-per-TB given the insane economy of scale
[03:03] <shaqfu> I heard a great story about Brewester and hard drives once involving selling heat :P
[03:04] <underscor> well, if you think about power/bandwidth/space for a TB over 100 years
[03:04] <underscor> that's not that unreasonable
[03:04] <shaqfu> Yeah
[03:04] <shaqfu> And IA doesn't do super-hardcore curation
[03:04] <underscor> yeah, IA has no heater
[03:04] <underscor> it was removed some time ago
[03:04] <shaqfu> Does it have AC yet?
[03:04] <underscor> windows
[03:04] <underscor> :D
[03:05] <underscor> If you want heat, there are little chains you can pull that will move baffles to direct server heat to your room
[03:05] <shaqfu> Haha
[03:05] <underscor> if you want cool, you just open the window
[03:05] <shaqfu> One of my old profs said that Brewster didn't use HVAC since the cost of it was greater than the cost of buying new drives
[03:05] <shaqfu> Guess some things never change
[03:06] <underscor> hahahaha
[03:06] <underscor> that's awesome
[03:06] <shaqfu> And IIRC, when it was housed in a shared building, he sold the heat
[03:06] <underscor> It actually stays pretty nice in here, honestly
[03:07] <shaqfu> Really? I'd figure that the SF summer + zillions of servers would cook you
[03:08] <underscor> nah, it's pretty cool here, at least so far
[03:08] <underscor> been mid to lower 60s
[03:09] <underscor> oh, so, the floor in the main work area is hardwood with this really glossy laminate
[03:09] <underscor> and I'm wearing socks
[03:09] <underscor> so I skate whenever I get up to get water or bathroom
[03:09] <underscor> it's fantastic
[03:09] <shaqfu> God damn
[03:09] <underscor> hahahaha
[03:09] <shaqfu> I'm going to forever imagine you as Tom Cruise in Risky Business
[03:09] <shaqfu> But instead of a house, a server farm
[03:10] <underscor> :D
[03:11] <underscor> http://campl.us/ioFLOIE5zUG
[03:11] <underscor> (for the record, not my item nor picture)
[03:12] <shaqfu> Hahaha
[03:21] <Aranje> awe yee
[03:21] * Aranje wiggles at underscor
[03:21] <underscor> hahaha
[03:22] <Aranje> Any of you happen to be pro at twitter news-surfing? Have a list of news sources you like?
[04:48] * BlueMax looks at underscor unappreciatively
[04:50] <underscor> :D
[06:08] <winr4r> good morning, my lovelies
[06:22] <Aranje> Morning, winr4r!
[07:16] <Angantyr> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4449/38especiald.jpg
[07:16] <Angantyr> I wonder what kind of apps they used to make covers like this
[07:16] <Angantyr> or did they just do it manually back then
[07:18] <Angantyr> many classical cover illustrators must have gone out of business once photoshop came along
[08:25] <ersi> Angantyr: "apps" :|
[17:39] <noone> hello all
[17:40] <noone> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4153647
[17:40] <noone> how much of things are not being preserved because of false copyright claims?
[17:47] <shaqfu> noone: Lots
[17:47] <shaqfu> Or, worse, the fear that someone might bring claim down on them
[21:42] <DFJustin> is there any way to upload large files to IA such that you can resume if it fucks up in the middle and if not, why not
[21:42] <DFJustin> looking at underscor here
[21:42] <underscor> yeah
[21:42] <underscor> multipart s3
[21:43] <DFJustin> I did that and it seems not to resume the previous one if the process stops, at least with s3cmd
[21:43] <underscor> we do not like s3cmd
[21:43] <DFJustin> what do you like
[21:44] <underscor> boto
[21:44] <underscor> or curl
[21:44] <underscor> but curl doesn't multipart
[21:45] <DFJustin> will try boto
[21:54] <DFJustin> how do I tell it what server to use
[22:04] <DFJustin> answer: hack the code, lame
[22:24] <DFJustin> can you elaborate more on your boto setup if you've used it
[22:30] <underscor> I have not, unfortunately
[22:30] <underscor> I think there's an example in the ia github
[22:40] <DFJustin> so here's the magic https://gist.github.com/2985341
[22:41] <DFJustin> it's making its own new multipart upload and not resuming the s3cmd one though
[22:42] <DFJustin> will test in a bit if it's at least smart enough to resume itself
[23:48] <DFJustin> nope boto's s3multiput is not smart enough to resume its own upload
[23:50] <DFJustin> http://ia600704.us.archive.org/27/items/freem-others-2012-06-11/