#archiveteam-bs 2012-06-24,Sun

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01:55 🔗 underscor I went to Pride SF and all I got was to hold a 10" cock and a soapy phallus :(
01:55 🔗 underscor https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/303536_4132058788383_973150796_n.jpg
01:59 🔗 Aranje lol
02:39 🔗 DoubleJ And that was even before he got to the parade.
02:39 🔗 underscor Parade's tomorrow, actually
02:40 🔗 underscor pretty much everyone here made me promise that I'd go
02:40 🔗 underscor supposedly it's pretty cool
02:47 🔗 Aranje yeah
02:50 🔗 shaqfu Totally bizarre question - does archive.org host research data?
02:51 🔗 shaqfu (was discussing the NSF data standard earlier and thought about it)
02:53 🔗 underscor I mean, they're not opposed to it
02:53 🔗 underscor I don't know if we expressly mirror it
02:54 🔗 shaqfu If someone wanted to dump their research data from some study on archive.org, they'd be a-okay?
02:54 🔗 shaqfu I'm just asking since it's the easiest way to provide long-term access/preservation
02:54 🔗 underscor yeah, definitely
02:54 🔗 underscor as long as they have the rights for it
02:54 🔗 underscor and are okay with some sort of permissive license
02:54 🔗 underscor (some CC or PD license)
02:54 🔗 shaqfu 'course
02:55 🔗 shaqfu It's fed research anyway
02:57 🔗 shaqfu I'll keep it in mind - working with a friend on his grant proposal, and some agencies require that to be planned out
03:01 🔗 underscor cool!
03:01 🔗 shaqfu I'm actually surprised nobody's asked about this before - honestly, I'd trust archive.org before any major uni
03:02 🔗 underscor Brewster mentioned at lunch yesterday: "I like to think that it's roughly $2,000 for the lifetime of a TB of data"
03:02 🔗 underscor makes mobileme seem a bit more expensive!
03:02 🔗 underscor (for IA to store)
03:02 🔗 shaqfu That still sounds high to be, but it's better than Rosenthal's $16,000
03:03 🔗 shaqfu I always figured that archive.org would achieve the absolute lowest cost-per-TB given the insane economy of scale
03:03 🔗 shaqfu I heard a great story about Brewester and hard drives once involving selling heat :P
03:04 🔗 underscor well, if you think about power/bandwidth/space for a TB over 100 years
03:04 🔗 underscor that's not that unreasonable
03:04 🔗 shaqfu Yeah
03:04 🔗 shaqfu And IA doesn't do super-hardcore curation
03:04 🔗 underscor yeah, IA has no heater
03:04 🔗 underscor it was removed some time ago
03:04 🔗 shaqfu Does it have AC yet?
03:04 🔗 underscor windows
03:04 🔗 underscor :D
03:05 🔗 underscor If you want heat, there are little chains you can pull that will move baffles to direct server heat to your room
03:05 🔗 shaqfu Haha
03:05 🔗 underscor if you want cool, you just open the window
03:05 🔗 shaqfu One of my old profs said that Brewster didn't use HVAC since the cost of it was greater than the cost of buying new drives
03:05 🔗 shaqfu Guess some things never change
03:06 🔗 underscor hahahaha
03:06 🔗 underscor that's awesome
03:06 🔗 shaqfu And IIRC, when it was housed in a shared building, he sold the heat
03:06 🔗 underscor It actually stays pretty nice in here, honestly
03:07 🔗 shaqfu Really? I'd figure that the SF summer + zillions of servers would cook you
03:08 🔗 underscor nah, it's pretty cool here, at least so far
03:08 🔗 underscor been mid to lower 60s
03:09 🔗 underscor oh, so, the floor in the main work area is hardwood with this really glossy laminate
03:09 🔗 underscor and I'm wearing socks
03:09 🔗 underscor so I skate whenever I get up to get water or bathroom
03:09 🔗 underscor it's fantastic
03:09 🔗 shaqfu God damn
03:09 🔗 underscor hahahaha
03:09 🔗 shaqfu I'm going to forever imagine you as Tom Cruise in Risky Business
03:09 🔗 shaqfu But instead of a house, a server farm
03:10 🔗 underscor :D
03:11 🔗 underscor http://campl.us/ioFLOIE5zUG
03:11 🔗 underscor (for the record, not my item nor picture)
03:12 🔗 shaqfu Hahaha
03:21 🔗 Aranje awe yee
03:21 🔗 * Aranje wiggles at underscor
03:21 🔗 underscor hahaha
03:22 🔗 Aranje Any of you happen to be pro at twitter news-surfing? Have a list of news sources you like?
04:48 🔗 * BlueMax looks at underscor unappreciatively
04:50 🔗 underscor :D
06:08 🔗 winr4r good morning, my lovelies
06:22 🔗 Aranje Morning, winr4r!
07:16 🔗 Angantyr http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4449/38especiald.jpg
07:16 🔗 Angantyr I wonder what kind of apps they used to make covers like this
07:16 🔗 Angantyr or did they just do it manually back then
07:18 🔗 Angantyr many classical cover illustrators must have gone out of business once photoshop came along
08:25 🔗 ersi Angantyr: "apps" :|
17:39 🔗 noone hello all
17:40 🔗 noone http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4153647
17:40 🔗 noone how much of things are not being preserved because of false copyright claims?
17:47 🔗 shaqfu noone: Lots
17:47 🔗 shaqfu Or, worse, the fear that someone might bring claim down on them
21:42 🔗 DFJustin is there any way to upload large files to IA such that you can resume if it fucks up in the middle and if not, why not
21:42 🔗 DFJustin looking at underscor here
21:42 🔗 underscor yeah
21:42 🔗 underscor multipart s3
21:43 🔗 DFJustin I did that and it seems not to resume the previous one if the process stops, at least with s3cmd
21:43 🔗 underscor we do not like s3cmd
21:43 🔗 DFJustin what do you like
21:44 🔗 underscor boto
21:44 🔗 underscor or curl
21:44 🔗 underscor but curl doesn't multipart
21:45 🔗 DFJustin will try boto
21:54 🔗 DFJustin how do I tell it what server to use
22:04 🔗 DFJustin answer: hack the code, lame
22:24 🔗 DFJustin can you elaborate more on your boto setup if you've used it
22:30 🔗 underscor I have not, unfortunately
22:30 🔗 underscor I think there's an example in the ia github
22:40 🔗 DFJustin so here's the magic https://gist.github.com/2985341
22:41 🔗 DFJustin it's making its own new multipart upload and not resuming the s3cmd one though
22:42 🔗 DFJustin will test in a bit if it's at least smart enough to resume itself
23:48 🔗 DFJustin nope boto's s3multiput is not smart enough to resume its own upload
23:50 🔗 DFJustin http://ia600704.us.archive.org/27/items/freem-others-2012-06-11/

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