#archiveteam-bs 2012-06-26,Tue

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00:10 🔗 shaqfu Isn't the big crunch on airline revenue jet fuel?
00:12 🔗 chronomex I'm sure that's a lot of it
00:12 🔗 shaqfu Jet fuel is insanely expensive; it's a shame they don't use non-jet planes at all
00:13 🔗 chronomex turboprops are not gone
00:13 🔗 chronomex they're just slow and nobody likes them
00:13 🔗 chronomex oh, and loud and bumpy.
00:13 🔗 shaqfu I read that, in the 50s, people tried using old bombers as passenger planes
00:13 🔗 shaqfu And it worked really well, except for the whole "government-enforced monopoly" bit
00:14 🔗 chronomex in the 50s, fuel was a lot cheaper
00:14 🔗 shaqfu True
00:14 🔗 shaqfu Although, isn't the issue more variability than actual price?
00:15 🔗 shaqfu When the price of oil can go up fivefold, then drop 80% again within six months...
00:39 🔗 dashcloud Delta actually bought their own refinery to save money on fuel
00:41 🔗 BlueMax Isn't that like buying an airline for the peanuts
00:41 🔗 shaqfu BlueMax: If you use enough jet fuel, it makes sense to buy your own refinery and cut out the middleman
00:42 🔗 shaqfu If jet fuel is $10/gal from Exxon, and they make it for $9/gal, you'd make your money back after a couple hundred million gallons
00:43 🔗 shaqfu And Delta has, is, and will be using fucktons of fuel
01:02 🔗 Coderjoe plus, they can try and put the balance towards jet fuel, while Exxon might try and keep a significant output percentage in the automotive fuel range
01:03 🔗 shaqfu Yep, further lowering prices for Delta
01:04 🔗 shaqfu (so they can screw SketchCow all the more efficiently, of course)
01:05 🔗 shaqfu Put the refinery on 100% jets
01:09 🔗 BlueMax the end goal of all businesses - to screw SketchCow as efficiently as possible
01:28 🔗 Coderjoe http://maps.google.fr/maps?ll=52.923122,4.78652&spn=0.01119,0.033023&t=k&om=1&z=16
01:30 🔗 shaqfu Coderjoe: Airport that's blurred out?
01:31 🔗 Coderjoe did someone let one of the classic artists out?
01:31 🔗 Coderjoe (it pains me that I can't remember whose style that resembles)
01:32 🔗 shaqfu Hrm, same
01:34 🔗 DFJustin seurat?
02:23 🔗 DFJustin so cyberduck helpfully crashes when you select "upload"
02:28 🔗 DFJustin also doesn't support resume
02:53 🔗 shaqfu "Prepares records for microfilming"
02:53 🔗 shaqfu buhhh
02:54 🔗 shaqfu Someone please tell me there's a good reason to be doing that in 2012
02:58 🔗 Coderjoe ok, I think I might see one possible reasons for resumes to fail using the s3 upload api. if you do a head on the file, nginex returns a Content-length header value of 1
02:58 🔗 Coderjoe but if you do a get request, it then gives the correct length
02:59 🔗 Coderjoe at least for the item I just poked. and the fault is on the nginx install on the actual storage node
03:00 🔗 Coderjoe (after curl follows the redirect from the s3 enpoint)
03:01 🔗 Coderjoe the only way a resume could happen is if the uploader magically knew how much data the server actually received and starts again there
03:02 🔗 Coderjoe (which it can only currently get via a GET request on the file, or by grabbing the files.xml, which might not even be complete at that point)
03:11 🔗 DFJustin I'm sure that doesn't help
03:12 🔗 DFJustin what I'm seeing though is that incomplete 1-part uploads just never make it anywhere, they disappear if the upload stops, and for multi-part ones the parts are still there but there's no obvious way for the client to know about them
03:12 🔗 Coderjoe I wasn't trying to resume an upload, fwiw, but just poking to see if HEAD gave the correct information
03:13 🔗 DFJustin and the multipart parts all have a randomly-generated filename prefix so it just starts up a new prefix and uploads a new series
03:17 🔗 DFJustin according to http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt they ignore the Range header so getting a correct HEAD would probably not help you much
04:40 🔗 underscor I just watched alien for the first time
04:40 🔗 underscor on the big sound system
04:40 🔗 underscor man, that's a mind trip
12:29 🔗 SmileyG hurrar
12:29 🔗 SmileyG home from the hospital \o/
12:43 🔗 BlueMax SmileyG, cool. wanna go right back in? :P
12:47 🔗 SmileyG hmmm, why?
12:47 🔗 BlueMax because I'm angry at the ME3 DLC
12:47 🔗 BlueMax and want to punch something
13:15 🔗 SmileyG ME3
13:15 🔗 SmileyG hahaha
13:15 🔗 SmileyG D3
13:15 🔗 SmileyG hahahaha
13:16 🔗 SmileyG .any other A+++ titles you want me to laugh at?
13:16 🔗 SmileyG Battlefield?
13:16 🔗 SmileyG CoD
13:16 🔗 SmileyG ?
15:21 🔗 Schbirid http://retrochallenge.org/
15:33 🔗 mistym Schbirid: Cool idea! Wonder if I can think of something to do...
15:33 🔗 mistym So hey #archiveteam-bs, I need some new mods to listen to. Recommendations?
15:34 🔗 Schbirid mistym: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moFX4riuhxY
15:34 🔗 Schbirid oh you mean music ;)
15:34 🔗 Schbirid dubmood's pirate sessions of course
15:36 🔗 mistym That's definitely not what I was expecting from a Quake mod.
15:36 🔗 Schbirid awesome isnt it?
15:40 🔗 DFJustin http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=121602
15:42 🔗 mistym Thanks for the recommendations. Somehow I haven't listened to Pirate Sessions, so I will totally have to do that.
15:43 🔗 Schbirid whoa
15:43 🔗 DFJustin whenever I need new mods I just listen to nectarine for a while and take down names
15:43 🔗 mistym DFJustin: Also a good point
15:44 🔗 Schbirid nectarine is too much weird stuff for me (at least when i tried a long time ago). i cannot stand noise tunes, i am mostly after the bleep appr
15:44 🔗 Schbirid the stupidly uplifting sort
15:44 🔗 mistym I totally wish Modarchive had an FTP. (Seem to remember it doesn't, anyway.) I use modland a ton for massdownloading.
15:46 🔗 DFJustin http://amp.dascene.net/downmod.php?index=49386
15:49 🔗 DFJustin yeah there is weird stuff but I generally hear at least a few tracks to follow up on in any given session
15:49 🔗 mistym Nectarine is really mixed. I like variety but half the time when I'm listening it seems to get in these moods and play samey-sounding stuff for hours.
15:51 🔗 mistym DFJustin: Who's that by?
15:52 🔗 DFJustin http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=5190
15:52 🔗 mistym Thanks!
15:59 🔗 Schbirid god i love chiptunes
15:59 🔗 Schbirid always cheer me up :)
16:01 🔗 Schbirid http://keygenjukebox.com/?i=tPORt_-_3D_Graphkg.mp3
16:04 🔗 mistym Awesome domain name.
16:05 🔗 mistym Yeah, chiptunes are the perfect pick-me-up :D
16:06 🔗 mistym I think I've been irritating my friends on thisismyjam by picking songs by Vim three times in the last couple months.
16:06 🔗 mistym http://soundcloud.com/vim/vim-lost-tune
16:22 🔗 SketchCow YES WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION PERSON KEEP TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF
16:32 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: will the audio go up after?
16:32 🔗 winr4r i mean yours, not wikimedia person
16:33 🔗 SketchCow Yes.
16:33 🔗 SketchCow And I record my own, as always.
16:34 🔗 SketchCow This one
16:34 🔗 SketchCow Is going to be
16:35 🔗 SmileyG the fucking win?
16:35 🔗 SmileyG Wikimedia trying to justify themselves still?
16:35 🔗 Schbirid haha, i thought osbridge was a town and i made a joke...
16:35 🔗 SmileyG hmmm
16:35 🔗 SmileyG why didn't the hospital give me any pain killers :(
16:47 🔗 chronomex SmileyG: because they knew you'd just go on irc right away
16:48 🔗 SmileyG :D
16:48 🔗 SmileyG that is pretty much what happened.
16:50 🔗 chronomex Oh fuck yes
16:50 🔗 chronomex https://www.dropbox.com/s/c1q9e7aehxtl6lt/Example.jpg
16:56 🔗 SketchCow The OSbridge main sacturary for the keynotes has a pipe organ
16:56 🔗 SketchCow And theyre playing pipe organ music before each keynote
16:56 🔗 SketchCow I've asked for "Born This Way" by Lady Gaga
16:56 🔗 SketchCow Or "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts"
16:56 🔗 SketchCow Failing that, I will throw a tantrum
16:57 🔗 chronomex excellent
17:04 🔗 winr4r hahaha
17:04 🔗 winr4r i'd ask for the microsoft sound
17:10 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrzwMlaYqM8
17:11 🔗 SketchCow Someone who has an Apple Emulator wrote a Prince of Persia cheat mode as an option, using the source code to make it work perfectly.
17:14 🔗 winr4r awesome
17:16 🔗 SketchCow Yesh.
17:45 🔗 hyphscor DFJustin: Continuing to bug people about resuming an s3 multiput fyi
18:05 🔗 chronomex gam = wife -> bigamy
18:06 🔗 chronomex though that has been misappropriated for any multi-spouse situation
18:16 🔗 yipdw underscor: I went to Chicago Pride this weekend
18:16 🔗 yipdw it was terrible
18:16 🔗 yipdw background: "love, don't hate" signs and stuff of that nature
18:16 🔗 yipdw foreground: sweaty angry large women screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY MOTHERFUCKERS", pushing the crowds
18:17 🔗 yipdw I guess it was an interesting study in how pride parades are useless bullshit symbolism
18:20 🔗 chronomex Hah
18:21 🔗 yipdw or perhaps more accurately just another excuse for professional drunks to go out and do their thing
18:22 🔗 schbirid "i dont eat meat so get your stinky lunch ham sandwich out of my face, you fucking non-tolerant person" is a gem from my collection
18:42 🔗 underscor hahaha
19:09 🔗 yipdw heh
19:09 🔗 yipdw the memory in my work laptop was so hosed that memtest86 crashed
20:44 🔗 SketchCow I thought the NYC pride was a great march
20:50 🔗 yipdw it's definitely possible that other cities have a better organized parade
20:50 🔗 yipdw and it's definitely true that I'm pretty bitter about Chicago one
20:50 🔗 yipdw +the
21:04 🔗 chronomex seattle has two competing pride parades
21:05 🔗 chronomex not enough drama caused by just one
21:05 🔗 chronomex or maybe too much drama for one parade, I can't really tell
21:05 🔗 Coderjoe both, perhaps?
21:05 🔗 Coderjoe fuck "drama"

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