| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:03
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Coderjoe |
fLoo: if you mean on the left, it only shows the top 10 people or so there by default. there is a plus sign at the bottom that should toggle display of all workers |
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00:07
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Coderjoe |
wow. that's odd |
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00:11
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balrog- |
Coderjoe: I don't appear in that list... |
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00:12
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Coderjoe |
which project? |
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00:12
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Coderjoe |
and/or tracker |
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00:19
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Coderjoe |
hmm |
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00:20
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Coderjoe |
New Zealand's high court ruled today that a raid on Dotcom's Auckland mansion was illegal |
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00:34
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godane |
now i'm uploading more dl.tv |
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00:34
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godane |
episode 71 |
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00:34
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godane |
i'm on my way to be archive king of pcmag podcasts |
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00:34
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godane |
:-D |
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01:07
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godane |
uploaded: http://archive.org/details/dltv_071_episode |
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01:16
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Coderjoe |
size: 230,439,365 KB |
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01:16
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Coderjoe |
(size of all of your items on IA) |
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01:17
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Coderjoe |
in 384 items |
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01:20
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godane |
Coderjoe: Thats the size of all my items? |
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01:21
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godane |
or just pcmag files |
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01:21
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godane |
cause i know it can't be the pcmag videos cause crankygeeks and dltv is only like 82gb maybe |
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01:23
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DFJustin |
I'm now at 519,560,922 KB |
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01:32
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Famicoman |
can we pull that number up ourselves? |
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01:32
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Coderjoe |
godane: all items uploaded on your IA account |
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01:33
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Coderjoe |
or, actually, on the email address you're currently using there. |
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01:33
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Coderjoe |
(I don't know how the system handles changing your email address, as far as previously-uploaded items is concerned) |
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01:34
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godane |
how did i check my profile? |
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01:34
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godane |
*do i check my profile? |
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01:36
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Famicoman |
I wonder what mine is at |
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01:49
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Coderjoe |
famicoman: 164 items totaling 1,702,047,384 KB |
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01:50
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Coderjoe |
with the largest being diggnation, followed by ifanboy |
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02:43
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DFJustin |
you check at http://www.archive.org/metamgr.php?&w_uploader=yourname@example.com&mode=more |
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02:44
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DFJustin |
there's a handy histogram icon next to e.g. collection as well |
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02:53
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Famicoman |
that's awesome, thanks |
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02:58
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winr4r |
morning folks |
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02:59
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godane |
i think my ocd is making me a good archiver |
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03:00
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godane |
that and living with dial-up for 4 years and then 3 years without internet at home will turn any ocd internet user into a archiver |
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03:03
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winr4r |
heh! |
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03:03
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winr4r |
download internet at work, take it home |
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03:03
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DFJustin |
rage, paranoia, kleptomania, and ocd |
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03:04
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DFJustin |
sounds about right |
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03:04
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godane |
i was doing it at library between 2005 - early 2007 |
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03:05
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godane |
when i had my first desktop pc was sneaking in library with usb stick to download linux isos and dl.tv stuff |
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03:06
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DFJustin |
I remember in the 90s we had time-limited dial-up but dad worked at a university so I would save web pages onto floppy disks at his office |
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03:06
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shaqfu |
godane: If you don't mind me asking, where are you from? |
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03:06
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shaqfu |
I was never that desperate, although I remember waiting 10 hours to download large FilePlanet mods |
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03:07
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DFJustin |
half of them would have bad sectors by the time I got home because I reused free AOL disks |
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03:07
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shaqfu |
Rofl |
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03:07
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DFJustin |
I hated when they switched to CDs because I had to start buying floppies |
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03:08
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Coderjoe |
the disks could have been fine, but instead misaligned drives in opposite directions |
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03:08
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shaqfu |
Kinda ironic now, that we're downloading all of FilePlanet, and I used to wait many many hours just to get one file |
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03:08
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Coderjoe |
bah |
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03:09
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DFJustin |
when the demo for daggerfall came out it was 18mb so dad had to borrow a zip drive to bring it home |
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03:09
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shaqfu |
18MB, good God |
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03:09
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shaqfu |
That's just excessive |
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03:09
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shaqfu |
Probably had to run a RAM expander just to run it :( |
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03:09
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DFJustin |
then we fought with parallel port zip drive drivers for a while |
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03:10
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Coderjoe |
I had ISDN at home while my employer still used dialup |
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03:10
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Coderjoe |
so I would download big things like the directx sdk at home, burn a cd, and take it to work |
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03:11
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shaqfu |
(It was such a letdown to learn that RAM expanders weren't magic, and just added swap) |
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03:11
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Coderjoe |
shaqfu: uh... I have an addon card in a box somewhere that you put SIMMs on and drop in an ISA slot |
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03:12
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DFJustin |
in the real early days we would do lycos searches at the university and PRINT THEM OUT |
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03:12
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shaqfu |
Coderjoe: I was thinking the software ones |
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03:12
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DFJustin |
so I would have paper listing every web site that existed on x (which fit in a binder) |
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03:12
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Coderjoe |
now, CPUs are fast enough that you have things like compcache on linux |
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03:13
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Coderjoe |
they add "swap" space, but it is compressed in RAM |
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03:13
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DFJustin |
wish I still had that stuff |
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03:13
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Coderjoe |
DFJustin: I had a copy of an internet yellow pages book |
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03:14
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shaqfu |
I got a book simply titled "THE INTERNET" from '95 off a free book card |
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03:14
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godane |
shaqfu: From NH USA |
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03:14
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Coderjoe |
oh shit. you have a copy of THE INTERNET |
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03:15
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shaqfu |
AWB has a few good ones like that |
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03:15
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shaqfu |
Er, ALB |
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03:15
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godane |
i love the fact that i'm the only one save The Screen Savers for the IA people |
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03:15
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godane |
it was mostly not even there |
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03:15
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DFJustin |
I thought compression is how stuff like ramdoubler worked back in the day |
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03:15
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DFJustin |
never actually used it though |
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03:16
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godane |
before me |
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03:16
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Coderjoe |
some did do weird compression tricks |
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03:16
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shaqfu |
http://awfullibrarybooks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/How-to-Dotcom-1.jpg |
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03:17
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godane |
i got to get the home brew computer episode upload later tonight or tomorrw |
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03:17
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godane |
from jan 16 2004 |
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03:17
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godane |
and high bitrate too |
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03:20
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godane |
i also have episode that looks a little weird |
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03:20
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godane |
but full episode of feb 20 2004 |
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03:31
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godane |
holy crap |
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03:31
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godane |
holy crap |
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03:31
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godane |
ben heck was on the screen savers |
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03:31
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shaqfu |
Are there any useful tools for doing Excel-y stuff on SQLite? |
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03:32
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shaqfu |
I have a 110MB database here, which is too big to import into Excel, but I'd like to draw up some quick charts of it |
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03:32
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shaqfu |
(trying to see if the files-per-month output of Fileplanet is interesting) |
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03:34
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shaqfu |
Anything bypassing Excel totally would be ideal - my version caps out at 65k elements, and I have approx. 110k |
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03:35
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dashcloud |
maybe gnuplot or the last version or two of LibreOffice- it should be matching Excel 2010's ridiculous columns & rows |
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03:35
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Coderjoe |
libreoffice calc can handle much more than excel |
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03:35
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shaqfu |
Even then, I tried SQlite->csv->xls but my laptop can't handle it |
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03:36
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shaqfu |
150MB databases are just too much for it, I suppose |
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03:36
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Coderjoe |
if you can get the series into something like csv, then gnuplot likely can help make a chart |
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03:36
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Coderjoe |
but I don't have any idea how to use gnuplot, so don't bother asking me for help with it. |
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03:37
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shaqfu |
I'll give it a shot; thanks |
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03:37
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Coderjoe |
(my only experiences were with octave exporting and running gnuplot itself) |
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03:37
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shaqfu |
Should be simple enough to feed it data - I may be able to bypass the CSV totally, just having a list of mm/yyyy to count |
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03:38
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shaqfu |
120 x points is plenty; no need to have 6000 |
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05:22
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winr4r |
shaqfu: i love that book cover |
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05:22
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winr4r |
how to DOTCOM |
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05:22
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winr4r |
that worked out well for all concerned |
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05:24
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shaqfu |
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Pn6VAGlMjVg/SaKzOmJYXaI/AAAAAAAAFuc/06PcArPC5RQ/s400/keyboard_surfing_the_internet.jpg |
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05:24
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shaqfu |
This is still my favorite old Internet book cover |
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05:24
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winr4r |
hahaha |
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05:24
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winr4r |
that is beautiful man |
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05:25
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winr4r |
saving as reaction image |
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05:25
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winr4r |
;D |
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05:25
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shaqfu |
Surfing on a Model M with attached mouse wearing Velcro shoes |
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05:25
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winr4r |
that's exactly what the internet is like |
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05:28
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Coderjoe |
i doubt that is a model m |
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05:28
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shaqfu |
Yeah, Model Ms didn't have ports on their sides |
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05:29
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Coderjoe |
and all those poor kids in the background are in trouble. they seem to have no mice attached to their keyboards |
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05:29
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shaqfu |
They're command-line users |
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05:29
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winr4r |
linux users |
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05:29
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shaqfu |
Only the punk in the front uses a WM |
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05:29
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Coderjoe |
yeah, right |
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05:29
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winr4r |
in like 1995, you see |
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05:30
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Coderjoe |
1995: "what's linux?" |
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05:31
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shaqfu |
The kid in the back's catching a serious Internet wave |
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05:35
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winr4r |
what's interesting is how we're joking about it, though |
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05:35
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shaqfu |
Hm? |
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05:36
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winr4r |
as in "holy shit new and cool internet" is amusing |
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05:36
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winr4r |
was there ever self-referential humour of that kind about telephones? |
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05:36
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winr4r |
or VCRs? |
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05:36
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shaqfu |
I think it's more the sheer, well, 90sness of the image |
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05:38
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ersi |
of course there was, winr4r. Unless I'm losing some context due to language |
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05:38
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shaqfu |
http://tightmixblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/internet-book.jpg |
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05:38
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winr4r |
i'm probably not making sense, but the old optimism is the new "lol internet" |
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05:38
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shaqfu |
I think it's a combination of what's now tacky design + how poorly understood the Internet was |
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05:39
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shaqfu |
If there was a book with kids surfing on VHS tapes in orbit, it'd be hilarious |
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05:39
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winr4r |
haha true |
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05:39
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DFJustin |
even people who understood it portrayed it with overblown metaphors |
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05:40
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Coderjoe |
dammit |
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05:40
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winr4r |
or video tapes about how awesome VHS was, except i don't know if people joking about *those* would have put out VHS tapes about it |
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05:40
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Coderjoe |
I hate search engines |
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05:40
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winr4r |
DFJustin: yeah, like, "the internet interprets censorship as damage" etc |
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05:40
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Coderjoe |
I'm trying to find something I know exists, but can't coax the search engine into helping me find it again |
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05:42
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shaqfu |
Wonder if there are any images of people playing croquet with giant candlestick telephones |
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05:42
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shaqfu |
Titled "TELEPHONE" |
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05:43
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winr4r |
haha |
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05:43
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underscor |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_DjiLLDfo&feature=relmfu |
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05:44
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|
underscor |
hahahahaha |
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05:44
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|
underscor |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSgsON3u8E&feature=relmfu |
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05:44
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winr4r |
awesome |
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05:44
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winr4r |
if you want something REALLY awesome, though |
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05:45
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winr4r |
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=define+gigabyte&oq=define+gigabyte |
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05:45
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winr4r |
hit the audio button |
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05:45
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winr4r |
YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG ALL THIS TIME |
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05:45
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underscor |
http://i.imgur.com/k23k5.png |
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05:46
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shaqfu |
Hahah |
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05:47
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winr4r |
underscor: hahahah oh wow |
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05:47
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|
underscor |
unfortunately we at a.o can't laugh because we use a reversable hash :( |
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05:47
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|
underscor |
well, it's patched as of, uh. yesterday I think |
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05:47
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|
underscor |
but before that |
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05:48
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winr4r |
yeah, which also isn't the same thing as ** actually having passwords in clear text in 2012 ** |
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05:48
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shaqfu |
You'd think after Sony, that would be #1 on the "never ever do this" list |
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05:48
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winr4r |
you'd think after every other fucking time it has happened |
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05:49
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shaqfu |
Coderjoe: Sentimental attachment to the 512MB? |
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05:50
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Coderjoe |
iirc, it has my stepmania/itg records on it |
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05:51
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chronomex |
? |
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05:51
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chronomex |
I think I missed some irc antecedent there |
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05:51
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Coderjoe |
it carried over from #archiveteam |
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05:51
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chronomex |
Oh nvm |
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05:51
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shaqfu |
Siren was blaring |
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05:52
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chronomex |
So coderjoe why do you carry so many? |
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05:52
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chronomex |
They make 16g sticks for not much money at all fwiw |
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05:53
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shaqfu |
Bought a mini for $10 last week |
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05:54
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shaqfu |
Jam it into a mini router, 16GB network storage on the go |
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05:54
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Coderjoe |
chronomex: did you see that I have 4 16GB sticks? |
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05:54
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chronomex |
Oh, yeah I did |
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05:54
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shaqfu |
Coderjoe: Might be easier at this point to consolidate into a USB 2.5" drive |
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05:54
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Coderjoe |
the kanguru one has a hardware write protect switch, which is nice for service work |
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05:54
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shaqfu |
Slip it into your front shirt pocket, like a baller |
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05:54
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Coderjoe |
I can't fit those in my pockets |
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05:54
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chronomex |
Ok |
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05:55
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Coderjoe |
especially without the risk of damage |
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05:55
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chronomex |
I actually quit carrying physical media a while ago, now I use a website for crap |
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05:55
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Coderjoe |
(I already have a couple. still waiting for a third to return from IA) |
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05:55
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chronomex |
Makes it a bit of a hassle to bring up boxes, but I install oses less than once a month |
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05:56
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Coderjoe |
oh, I have access to my home stuff as well, anywhere I have internet access |
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05:56
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shaqfu |
On me.com |
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05:57
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winr4r |
hah |
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05:58
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chronomex |
I would say "neckbeard alert" but I think the one picture I've seen of you actually included suspenders |
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05:58
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Coderjoe |
of me? |
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05:58
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chronomex |
Mhm |
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05:58
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chronomex |
I could be misremembering |
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05:59
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Coderjoe |
the only time I have worn suspenders that I can remember involved a steampunk-themed wedding for which I was a groomsman |
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05:59
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chronomex |
hmmmmmmmm ok |
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05:59
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Coderjoe |
and I don't think any pictures were taken of me without my coat and vest on |
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06:00
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chronomex |
"I put on my robe and wizard hat"... |
|
06:00
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shaqfu |
Coat and vest? Sounds fly |
|
06:01
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Coderjoe |
omf_: my hard card failed in the 80s sometime, and took with it a bunch of my source code and programs that I hadn't backed up |
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06:02
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omf_ |
I still got pc-dos 3.0 or 3.3 and games. 21, centiped, rogue, kings quest 4 |
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06:02
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omf_ |
which took 8 double sided 5.25 disks |
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06:02
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Coderjoe |
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2288410986/h8ar1sqta21fieak02h3_reasonably_small.jpeg |
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06:03
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Coderjoe |
I did previously have my twitter profile image set to the "hershy bar censor" image |
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06:04
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omf_ |
are those steampunk glasses? |
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06:04
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Coderjoe |
those are indeed prop steampunk goggles |
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06:04
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Coderjoe |
as I said, steampunk themed wedding |
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06:06
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omf_ |
nice |
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06:14
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Coderjoe |
mmmm |
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06:14
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Coderjoe |
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=418xvoRiCk0 |
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06:15
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Coderjoe |
I don't know if I showed that already, but <3 comments like that |
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06:16
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Coderjoe |
oh, one of those 16GB sticks (the one with the lanyard clip) has a crapton of music on it, which I can plug into my car stereo |
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06:19
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godane |
retrogamer magazine 096-100 issues are scaned |
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06:19
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godane |
:-D |
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06:19
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winr4r |
godane: :D |
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06:24
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omf_ |
are those magazines still in copyright? If that does not matter I have some gaming mags as well |
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06:25
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winr4r |
omf_: certainly |
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06:25
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winr4r |
will be for a very, very long time |
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06:26
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omf_ |
sorry brain fart |
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06:26
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omf_ |
I meant did the company who made them go defunct? |
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06:27
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winr4r |
no |
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06:27
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Coderjoe |
even if they did, the copyright would still be around for a very long time |
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06:28
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winr4r |
well, they did, but their assets got bought |
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06:28
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winr4r |
Coderjoe: yes |
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06:28
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Coderjoe |
thank you disney corporation and sunny bono |
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06:30
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winr4r |
i'm not sure what happens if a business holds copyrights, goes bankrupt and doesn't sell their assets to someone else |
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06:31
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winr4r |
but even then, there's probably something that says "will be copyrighted for an awfully long time anyway" |
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06:31
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Coderjoe |
the assets would probably go to unpaid creditors |
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06:31
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Coderjoe |
but yes, the copyright sticks around, like HIV |
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07:07
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omf_ |
so the internet archive has the following upload methods: s3, ftp, http (flash), http (non-flash). is there anything else I am missing |
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07:07
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shaqfu |
In emergencies, mailing disks |
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07:08
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omf_ |
and from what I have heard people say ftp or s3 is the way to go |
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07:14
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Coderjoe |
mmm |
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07:14
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Coderjoe |
http://p.twimg.com/Awbmt3mCMAADY9r.png |
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07:14
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Coderjoe |
thanks to 24hour for-profit must-scoop news... we're writing the news before it happens! |
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07:15
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Coderjoe |
omf_: at least one of the http methods is actually using the s3api |
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07:16
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Coderjoe |
i'm curious what would replace that "XXXX" in the last portion |
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07:19
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omf_ |
after looking through https://wiki.archive.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebTopicList I found 2 upload methods mentioned, one of them currently mac only |
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07:30
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omf_ |
other than SketchCow's scripts am I missing any resources in this list about uploading to the a.o http://pastebin.com/hWiMM2w0 ? |
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07:38
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omf_ |
forgot this on my list http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt |
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08:44
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omf_ |
did google verbatim just disappear |
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08:45
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omf_ |
nevermind |
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08:45
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omf_ |
stupid google |
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09:12
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Coderjoe |
hmm |
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09:13
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Coderjoe |
do I still want to back this short film project in texas? |
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09:13
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Coderjoe |
(not computer history related) |
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09:40
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omf_ |
<Coderjoe> (not computer history related) - I think that is your answer :) |
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09:47
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Coderjoe |
uh... so I can only ever contribute to computer history related stuff? |
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10:00
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chronomex |
hehe |
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10:22
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godane |
Coderjoe: This worked: http://archive.org/details/dltv_077_episode |
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10:22
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godane |
ftp for the win |
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10:44
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godane |
now its happening again: http://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&identifier=dltv_078_episode |
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10:45
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godane |
ok everything is find |
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10:45
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godane |
*fine |
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11:00
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godane |
uploading cdrom 123 of 3d word |
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11:00
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godane |
*world |
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12:29
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omf_ |
the deathwatch kinda reminds me of fuckedcompany.com |
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12:29
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omf_ |
another site which is now gone |
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13:13
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omf_ |
grrr friday morning |
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13:16
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mistym |
At least it's less than 24 hours from Saturday morning. |
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13:17
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omf_ |
and I still do not have a job. Days are essentially meaning less in this state. |
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13:24
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omf_ |
shit another one bites the dust. moddb is owned by a new company and at least 5 years of old content is missing, probably more. |
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13:24
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SmileyG |
sigh |
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13:25
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SmileyG |
some people are suck frikking idiots i just GRRRHUGHHH. |
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13:25
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SmileyG |
lol |
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13:25
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omf_ |
sorry my bad. Everything 2005 and before is long gone |
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13:25
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SmileyG |
:< |
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13:25
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omf_ |
it was the largest site of game levels and mods |
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13:26
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omf_ |
I already backed up gamers.org which is still running strong |
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13:32
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Schbirid |
gamers.org is safe |
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13:36
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omf_ |
know who runs it? |
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13:39
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Schbirid |
ha, i thought i knew who runs it but seems like i just know one of them and he is a caring person |
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13:40
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omf_ |
that is fantastic to hear |
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13:40
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omf_ |
It kills me how much gaming history on the internet has been lost |
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13:40
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omf_ |
I have lists of gaming sites no longer around some I worked for. |
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13:49
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omf_ |
this kills me |
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13:49
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omf_ |
google: where to download game mods |
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13:49
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omf_ |
fileplanet and moddb are in the top 4 |
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13:50
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winr4r |
is moddb being murdered? |
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13:51
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omf_ |
it was murdered in 2005 |
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13:51
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omf_ |
lost all the previous content |
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13:51
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omf_ |
just like how the current delicious has none of the content prior to 2011 |
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13:52
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omf_ |
I am going through all the sites I used to download stuff from to see if they are still around |
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14:03
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omf_ |
Is anyone keeping an eye on tripod |
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14:08
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winr4r |
i hope so |
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14:08
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winr4r |
i have techcrunch's deadpool tag in my RSS reader, i'm guessing it'll show up there if it does |
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14:08
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winr4r |
(i know, fucking techcrunch) |
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14:08
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omf_ |
winr4r, it is like you read my mind |
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14:14
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omf_ |
3dpalette.com is also dead |
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14:14
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omf_ |
I am just depressing myself |
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14:31
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winr4r |
omf_: :( |
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14:40
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* |
winr4r goes back to porting welcometointernet.org to HTML5 |
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14:43
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SketchCow |
What a goal! |
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14:44
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winr4r |
SketchCow: i'm actually serious |
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14:44
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winr4r |
and i had to learn that <canvas> shit somehow |
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14:44
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Famicoman |
lol |
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14:44
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winr4r |
mostly there, i'm working on the timing so it matches the flash file |
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14:45
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mistym |
SketchCow, was this you? https://twitter.com/archiveteam/status/212618778968731649 |
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14:49
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SketchCow |
Yes |
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14:49
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SketchCow |
They're all me |
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14:51
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SmileyG |
heh |
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14:51
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SmileyG |
am i the only one who sees the problem with all the mobile devices going "no" to flash? |
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14:52
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SketchCow |
Flash is kind of shit |
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14:52
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omf_ |
SmileyG, what do you think the major problem with that is |
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14:53
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winr4r |
SmileyG: they're all going "no" because flash is an awful power hog and they've had years to fix it |
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14:54
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omf_ |
and it is insecure |
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14:54
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omf_ |
you think google is going to help adobe after the fucking around they got before |
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14:58
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mistym |
SketchCow: So what's that about? Wikimedia Commons, Flickr? |
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15:06
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SmileyG |
omf_: so limiting access is ok :/ |
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15:07
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winr4r |
SmileyG: sites will adapt |
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15:07
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Schbirid |
i never used flash in 2 years of android usage |
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15:08
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SmileyG |
clearly we visit different sites. |
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15:08
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winr4r |
talking of sites adapting |
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15:08
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winr4r |
http://lewiscollard.com/wti/ |
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15:09
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winr4r |
if someone has an android or ios and wants to see if that works, i'd be very happy |
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15:09
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winr4r |
i'll add a flash fallback when i get home but i have to go pick up an engine |
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15:09
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winr4r |
bbiaw |
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15:09
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SmileyG |
html5? |
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15:09
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SmileyG |
nice |
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15:11
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omf_ |
Adobe made this call on their own last year |
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15:11
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omf_ |
how is google locking them out |
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15:11
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omf_ |
apple locks everyone out |
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15:11
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SmileyG |
they have removed it from the play marketplace. |
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15:11
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SmileyG |
oh apple can foad |
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15:11
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SmileyG |
problem is the world laps it up |
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15:11
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omf_ |
yeah Adobe had it removed not google |
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15:11
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SmileyG |
orly? |
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15:11
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omf_ |
https://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html |
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15:11
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SmileyG |
then maybe they gonna finally do something about it ¬_¬ |
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15:12
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SmileyG |
omf_: it was relayed to me as the other way around.... |
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15:12
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SmileyG |
i do just wonder lots :( |
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15:12
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SmileyG |
so many old sites become unusable as first its phones |
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15:12
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SmileyG |
then it'll be desktop browsers too |
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15:12
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omf_ |
Adobe already announced they are cutting back desktop support in the form of Linux |
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15:13
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mistym |
winr4r: Doesn't work on iOS Simulator, though I've only got 4.3. Maybe it works in the latest mobile Safari |
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15:16
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DFJustin |
firefox will probably integrate this eventually http://badassjs.com/post/25369867558/shumway-mozillas-flash-vm-and-runtime-in-javascript |
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15:18
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SmileyG |
IT'S FRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIDAY! |
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15:19
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Aranje |
neat |
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15:20
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mistym |
SmileyG: FRIDAAAAAAAAAAAY |
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15:20
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SmileyG |
\o\ |
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15:20
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SmileyG |
SEXEH AND I KNOW IT |
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15:20
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SmileyG |
/o/ |
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15:50
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SketchCow |
Every day I'm archivin' dooopdoopdodppppp dooop DOOOP doop |
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15:50
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SketchCow |
mistym: Yes, pull out all CC-licensed yahoo flickr photos |
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16:08
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mistym |
SketchCow: Awesome. </late> |
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16:32
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Aranje |
are there any obnoxious anime watchers in here |
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16:33
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yipdw |
people who watch obnoxious anime, or obnoxious people who watch anime |
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16:33
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Aranje |
either works, actually. I need someone who knows the encoder people and what they want people to watch anime using (software-wise) |
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16:34
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Aranje |
they're all persnickety |
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16:34
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Schbirid |
10bit h265 with 5000kbps surround flac |
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16:34
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Aranje |
yes |
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16:34
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Schbirid |
no wait, wav, since flac has quality loss |
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16:34
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Aranje |
does not |
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16:34
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Aranje |
either way |
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16:34
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Schbirid |
"those people" claim |
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16:35
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Aranje |
mpc:hc is best video program, but do you need to pair it with a decoder set? |
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16:35
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Aranje |
I had run it with haali's mkv splitter, but I think that's unecessary now |
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16:35
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Schbirid |
no idea, i use mplayer |
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16:35
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Aranje |
and there was something about madvr, but I don't have the hardware for it |
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16:36
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Aranje |
yeah, I'm talkin winblows |
|
16:36
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Aranje |
--> http://explodie.org/aranjepack.html I give out a `default setup` for a media player, and I want it to be actually good |
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16:37
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Aranje |
and I figure obnoxious persnickety people will at least give me something usable :> |
|
16:37
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Aranje |
I'm making a new one, so don't download it ;P |
|
16:37
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yipdw |
Aranje: CCCP is a popular choice, as is mplayer2 |
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16:37
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Aranje |
is old as fuck atm |
|
16:37
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Aranje |
ugh really |
|
16:37
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Aranje |
cccp has so much functionality duplication |
|
16:37
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Aranje |
>_> |
|
16:38
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yipdw |
the standard media format is Vorbis audio and H.264 (high profile usually, though it can go anywhere) video via x264 |
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16:38
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yipdw |
in Matroska |
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16:38
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yipdw |
subtitling I guess is ASS, though that seems to change |
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16:38
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Aranje |
alright. mpc:hc unaided will play that |
|
16:38
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Schbirid |
vorbis? nice. all anime i got has aac or ac3 |
|
16:38
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yipdw |
well |
|
16:38
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yipdw |
AAC too |
|
16:38
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Aranje |
yeah mp4 |
|
16:38
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Aranje |
common combination with h264 |
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16:39
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yipdw |
AC3 was popular with DVD rips; I'm not sure what it is now |
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16:39
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Schbirid |
mkv |
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16:39
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yipdw |
a lot of what comes out now is broadcast rips |
|
16:39
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Aranje |
Schbirid:) the audio format |
|
16:39
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Schbirid |
anime people are smart |
|
16:39
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Schbirid |
ah |
|
16:39
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Aranje |
aka aac >_> |
|
16:39
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yipdw |
so it's going to be as close to what's over the air as possible |
|
16:39
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* |
Aranje nods |
|
16:39
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yipdw |
I don't remember what ATSC broadcast standards are though |
|
16:39
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yipdw |
however MKV, Vorbis, H.264 is very popular |
|
16:39
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Aranje |
mmk. |
|
16:40
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Aranje |
Well I *think* mpc:hc can run all variations listed here stock, so I should be good |
|
16:40
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yipdw |
that said |
|
16:40
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|
yipdw |
I have not watched any anime released in the past, like, six years |
|
16:40
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* |
yipdw 's knowledge of anime stops around 2008 |
|
16:40
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Aranje |
same here |
|
16:40
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yipdw |
so I could be talking total bullshit |
|
16:40
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yipdw |
what I just said is based on conversations with encoders |
|
16:40
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Aranje |
yeah that's why I figured I'd ask around |
|
16:41
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Aranje |
cause encoders have a preference for what their audience uses |
|
16:41
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Aranje |
And from what I've seen anime encoders are the most persnickety |
|
16:41
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Aranje |
lol |
|
16:41
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yipdw |
they can be |
|
16:41
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|
yipdw |
anime encoders have a history of dealing with really crazy inputs, though |
|
16:41
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Aranje |
yeah |
|
16:41
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|
* |
yipdw did a lot of it back in the day |
|
16:41
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Aranje |
:> |
|
16:42
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|
yipdw |
then I realized where my life was heading and decided to shape up |
|
16:42
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|
* |
Aranje laughs |
|
16:42
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|
Aranje |
I'm waiting on that process from a friend of mine from highschool |
|
16:42
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|
Aranje |
:P |
|
16:42
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Aranje |
Sue, he was in here helping with tabblo |
|
16:44
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yipdw |
who was it? |
|
16:45
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Aranje |
Sue? |
|
16:45
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|
Aranje |
That's his nick |
|
16:45
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yipdw |
oh |
|
16:46
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|
yipdw |
why the hell does he call himself sue |
|
16:46
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|
Aranje |
Because nobody can pronounce "suigintoulain" |
|
16:46
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|
yipdw |
is that Gaelic? |
|
16:46
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Aranje |
It's an anime character |
|
16:46
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|
Aranje |
:P |
|
16:46
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yipdw |
oh jesus fuck |
|
16:46
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DFJustin |
Aranje: I personally use mpc-hc + ffmpeg-tryouts which handles everything anime-wise |
|
16:46
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Aranje |
I think there might be a space in there somewhere |
|
16:46
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yipdw |
is it this guy |
|
16:46
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|
Aranje |
mmm |
|
16:46
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|
yipdw |
https://github.com/suigintoulain |
|
16:47
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Aranje |
yes |
|
16:47
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|
DFJustin |
suigintou and lain are two different characters |
|
16:47
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Aranje |
oh, okay :) |
|
16:47
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yipdw |
wait |
|
16:47
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|
yipdw |
is that Rozen Maiden |
|
16:47
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DFJustin |
obv |
|
16:47
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|
yipdw |
I don't know, I've never seen it |
|
16:47
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Aranje |
DFJustin:) I've been distributing mpc:hc and haali mkv splitter http://haali.su/mkv/ |
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16:48
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|
DFJustin |
I don't think you need haali if you have mpc-hc |
|
16:48
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|
DFJustin |
at least I never have |
|
16:48
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Aranje |
but haali hasn't been updated in a bit |
|
16:48
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DFJustin |
it has its own mkv splitter |
|
16:48
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Aranje |
which is why I'm revisiting what I'm giving out |
|
16:48
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Aranje |
:> |
|
16:52
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DFJustin |
the only thing about mpc-hc + ffmpeg-tryouts is it takes some post-install config to get everything working properly (e.g. softsubs) |
|
16:52
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DFJustin |
so it may not be ideal for you |
|
16:53
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|
DFJustin |
for noobs whose computers I'm not physically at I usually recommend vlc, even though I don't prefer it as a player personally |
|
16:54
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Aranje |
mmm |
|
16:55
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|
DFJustin |
because it just works and it's idiot-proof |
|
16:58
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Aranje |
oh my god |
|
16:58
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|
Aranje |
the chinese government's condition for allowing google to buy motorola mobility was that android remain opensource and free for the next 5 years |
|
16:58
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|
Aranje |
I'm torn as to whether or not I should like that gov |
|
16:58
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|
Aranje |
I swear |
|
16:59
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|
Aranje |
massive scale censorship <-> gov level support for mass scale hacking of other nations and full support for opensource stuff |
|
16:59
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|
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Aranje shakes his head |
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Schbirid |
you should probably ask yourself a very similar question about your own government |
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DFJustin |
for whoever cares http://myanimelist.net/character/1072/Suigintou http://myanimelist.net/character/2219/Lain_Iwakura |
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Aranje |
Schbirid:) I'm quite aware. But we don't have huge support for oss :P |
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Aranje grins |
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Aranje |
huh |
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Aranje |
I've seen the suigintou character before in his avatars |
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Aranje |
not lain though |
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shaqfu |
Aranje: There are only so many library schools, and of them, not many teach that |
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Aranje |
Sure |
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Aranje |
I did not ask or care what city she was at |
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shaqfu |
Gotcha |
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shaqfu |
So it's awesome they're getting profs for it |
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Aranje |
I don't believe it's one on the list of `already teaches it` because she was talking about it in the way of `trying to change the program to address the topic` |
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shaqfu |
Yeah - a lot of places aren't really caught up to today yet |
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Aranje |
It was an interesting convo I had with her |
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Aranje |
She moves a lot, sounds like |
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Aranje |
was in britain last year, left this morning for somewhere else |
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Aranje |
I believe it's all for `work` as well |
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Aranje |
I wish I knew her name... I'll ask what it was |
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Famicoman |
I would be all over that course |
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Aranje nods |
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shaqfu |
Same |
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Aranje |
I would too, irrelevant as it is to my degree |
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shaqfu |
I took a digipres course, but it was 100% theory |
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Aranje |
It's getting close to time that I go home book scanning/ocr |
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Aranje |
I've got old books, want to scan and then sell or something |
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shaqfu |
Honestly, I've learned more about digipres here than in school |
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shaqfu |
Aranje: The ones in the garage? |
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Aranje |
yessir |
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Aranje |
most aren't even worth scanning because they're new enough |
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Aranje |
but a few are 1800s |
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Aranje |
I lent out a couple to a friend who wanted to read them and they've been returned |
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Aranje |
she hated the smell of them because of the garage-conditions |
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Aranje |
bindings and everything is fine, but the paper could be doing better |
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yipdw |
FYI, if someone makes a Gravatar-sized version of the logo in the topic, I will use it for our Github organization |
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Aranje grins |
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Aranje |
github... I have one of those |
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Aranje |
heh |
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Aranje |
dun do fuckall on it, but hey |
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shaqfu |
Give underscor enough drinks and he'll probably record it himself |
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Aranje |
that could be arranged |
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Aranje |
Were I to have a car, he's ~3 hours north of me |
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winr4r |
i'm back |
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underscor |
I don't even need the drinks |
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underscor |
I'd do it for pure shits and giggles |
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yipdw |
be immortalized in a gravatar |
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chronomex |
Aranje: this is my first scan, it's kind of crappy at the start but it gets better - http://archive.org/details/TheElectronicSwitchingSystem |
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winr4r |
HEY WHO HAS AN IPHONE HERE |
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winr4r |
and/or ipad |
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underscor |
<-- ipt |
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winr4r |
underscor: http://lewiscollard.com/wti/ |
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winr4r |
welcometointernet.org, HTML5 port |
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winr4r |
please test for me |
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DFJustin |
there's some market in old drives for interface board swaps |
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chronomex |
ok, not all the buyers are idiots |
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DFJustin |
scan looks great |
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DFJustin |
page 91 is missing? |
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chronomex |
yeah, I think I skipped it |
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chronomex |
haven't had a chance to re-scan, the scanner is my friend's |
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underscor |
winr4r: just a black screen |
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chronomex |
I ran the whole scan through a deskewer, it actually is straighter on-screen than in the original print |
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chronomex |
underscor: same in opera |
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winr4r |
underscor: oh, weird |
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chronomex |
DFJustin: also I don't have a scandata.xml so the DPI is off - deriver assumes 600dpi unless it's very obvious otherwise, but I scanned that at 400 |
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chronomex |
"very obvious" doesn't include the DPI tag in TIFF |
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chronomex |
it's kind of disappointing that I can get faster upstream via wimax on my phone than my DSL line provides |