#archiveteam-bs 2012-07-03,Tue

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03:38 🔗 godane SketchCow: you may like this: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/docs/about.rst
03:39 🔗 godane its another way to say "fuck the cloud"
03:42 🔗 shaqfu godane: And what happens when the provider dies?
03:47 🔗 shaqfu And sheesh, govt GIS data still distributes on CD?
03:52 🔗 godane looking at how we can do a panic download of code.google.com
03:52 🔗 shaqfu You'd think there are better ways to move half a TB of data than mountains of discs
03:52 🔗 godane bluray
03:53 🔗 godane at least you get it down to 12 disks
03:53 🔗 godane in theory
03:54 🔗 shaqfu Or one hard disk
03:55 🔗 godane i just think disks
03:55 🔗 shaqfu Faster, cheaper, more reliable (take 3!
03:55 🔗 godane cause you may want both
03:55 🔗 godane in case the hard drive was modifiyed in anyway
03:55 🔗 shaqfu That's why you use multiple drives
03:56 🔗 godane disks are EMP proof
03:56 🔗 godane hard drives still has chips in them
03:56 🔗 shaqfu This isn't the one copy - this is for shipping between agencies and LOC
03:59 🔗 shaqfu If you load a pile of disks with reduntant data into a truck, drive it across DC, hook them up, checksum, find the intersection of good data, and use that
04:00 🔗 shaqfu You don't need to worry about getting nailed by any sort of weirdness - and if you do, go back and copy again
04:36 🔗 S[h]O[r]T https://twitter.com/#!/NeedADebitCard
10:30 🔗 godane uploading 3d world 152 iso
11:51 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-152
12:52 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-153
12:54 🔗 SmileyG \o/
13:20 🔗 godane hey SmileyG
13:20 🔗 godane downloading a new xbox world magazine
13:43 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-154
13:53 🔗 SmileyG :O
13:54 🔗 godane trying to get all completed iso to archive.org
13:55 🔗 godane i also have some completed dvds that i will have to wait on
13:55 🔗 godane may take 5 to 6 hours to do one of those
13:55 🔗 SmileyG ':O
14:45 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-155
14:46 🔗 Schbirid phew, first time i actually checked what that is. dont be surprised if they are taken "offline"
14:48 🔗 godane :-(
14:49 🔗 Schbirid the older, the safer
14:49 🔗 godane most of them are old
14:49 🔗 godane most are from 2010 and 2011
14:49 🔗 godane i will keep 156 and 157 for my self right now then
14:50 🔗 godane since there very new
14:50 🔗 Schbirid nah, up what you got
14:50 🔗 Schbirid even if archive.org receives a takedown notice they will keep the stuff from what i know. they are an archive, they can sit on anything until it is legal to share
15:05 🔗 Schbirid nabble is a bloody stupid site
16:01 🔗 yipdw I think we need a gallery of sites that render abso-fucking-lutely nothing with Javascript off
16:01 🔗 yipdw and find a way to shame their maintainers into fixing that bullshit
16:02 🔗 yipdw there is, for example, no reason why a blog like http://functionsource.com should be a vast dark gray expanse of mud by default
16:04 🔗 yipdw well, I guess there is -- that site's source code screams "lol look at me I just learned coffeescript and backbone"
16:05 🔗 mistym Written in http://html9responsiveboilerstrapjs.com/
16:07 🔗 yipdw fuck, I didn't know that was a real domain
16:09 🔗 yipdw ha
16:09 🔗 yipdw "You should totally follow all the best programmers on GitHub. Then you'll get absolutely no benefit whatsoever from anything."
16:13 🔗 SmileyG the funny bit?
16:13 🔗 SmileyG requires javascript TO CHANGE THE FUSKING FONT?
16:15 🔗 mistym Lovely.
16:15 🔗 yipdw it requires javascript to insert anything in the fucking page
16:15 🔗 yipdw I feel I should point out that the developer of Backbone recommends that you should prime the page with static content
16:16 🔗 yipdw d
16:16 🔗 yipdw so even if this is a "lol I just learned backbone" project, it faile
16:40 🔗 DFJustin http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/03/roguelike-resurrection-adom-seeks-funding/
17:09 🔗 underscor hahahahah
17:09 🔗 underscor http://html9responsiveboilerstrapjs.com/ is the best
17:31 🔗 Coderjoe wow. renders absolutely nothing without JS is worse than the stupid #! url bullshit that renders ALMOST nothing without JS
18:07 🔗 SmileyG is that like #!/bin/takeashit
18:07 🔗 SmileyG ?
18:08 🔗 Schbirid more like #!/bin/toilet
18:08 🔗 Schbirid since your toilet could try to interpret your shit
18:11 🔗 SmileyG :D
18:11 🔗 SmileyG then flush it away?
18:12 🔗 SmileyG exec("/bin/takeashit","2") | /dev/toilet
18:19 🔗 underscor http://www.theenglishgroup.co.uk/blog/2012/05/09/8-inches-of-chocolate/
18:21 🔗 mistym underscor: NSFW warning please!!
18:21 🔗 underscor oh shit
18:21 🔗 underscor sorry
18:21 🔗 underscor :(
18:22 🔗 SmileyG I, erm.... what?
21:30 🔗 underscor :(
21:30 🔗 underscor yipdw: :(
21:30 🔗 underscor http://imgur.com/gallery/ECuUF
21:34 🔗 Coderjoe http://imgur.com/gallery/f132r
21:51 🔗 omf_ wow
21:52 🔗 Coderjoe http://i.imgur.com/L29C6.jpg
22:00 🔗 mistym Dear Silverfast I hate you. !Love, Misty
22:28 🔗 Coderjoe http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/vintage-att-ad-1967-your.html
22:34 🔗 yipdw underscor: :P
22:41 🔗 underscor https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/528071_216288771827740_1916052807_n.jpg
22:54 🔗 arrith1 http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Just_Solve_the_Problem_2012
22:54 🔗 Coderjoe speaking of firefox bugs, does anyone else have a problem where it isn't properly redrawing an obscured area after a tooltip or context menu is dismissed?
22:56 🔗 underscor so archive.org is talking about implementing http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-json-patch-01 for metadata changes
22:57 🔗 DFJustin haven't seen that coderjoe
22:59 🔗 Coderjoe It doesn't seem to happen on win7 at work, but does on winxppro at home
23:02 🔗 arrith1 Coderjoe: where like a phantom box just stays hovering, or is it just one that one window/tab?
23:03 🔗 arrith1 JSP 2012 could lead to some kind of universal library with wide language support, so to add support for some long lost format they just add the lib
23:03 🔗 arrith1 and big programming library projects tend to lead to reference implementations, so could be a universal unpacker program
23:04 🔗 Coderjoe it will redraw if I switch tabs and back, and might also be fixed by scrolling (forget offhand), but otherwise I'll have a phantom image of the tip/menu stick around until I do something to fix it
23:04 🔗 arrith1 underscor: just noticed that pic was on facebook, someone is pretty bold having that in their pictures
23:04 🔗 underscor yeah
23:04 🔗 underscor not I
23:04 🔗 arrith1 Coderjoe: ah, haven't experienced that. sounds like some odd interaction
23:04 🔗 Coderjoe http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/well-users-pledge-more-than-1.html (title, as it was truncated: WELL users pledge more than $100K to community buyout)
23:05 🔗 Coderjoe arrith1: I think it has to do with rendering system changes, trying to use the 3d accellerator for compositing, or something
23:05 🔗 Coderjoe and breaking horribly when it needs to fall back
23:06 🔗 arrith1 underscor: i don't know what the current format is but having data in programatically friendly formats is always nice
23:06 🔗 underscor The current format is "broken ass web form that works half the time"
23:06 🔗 arrith1 Coderjoe: yeah i wonder if you could try disabling that acceleration to see if the issue goes away
23:06 🔗 underscor (for submitting modifications)
23:07 🔗 arrith1 underscor: ah, very good proposal then
23:09 🔗 DFJustin basically if I ran mozilla I would have at least one guy whose full time job is just going down this list http://tinyurl.com/6sy6j5t
23:10 🔗 DFJustin (non-enhancement bugs with >50 votes)
23:10 🔗 Coderjoe at one point, someone I know was looking to fork Freenet, in order to actually fix bugs that the regular maintainers either didn't care to fix or just refused to believe existed
23:11 🔗 Coderjoe (they supposedly were more interested in just adding new features)
23:14 🔗 Coderjoe DFJustin: but some of those are rather dumb. "I sometimes hit Ctrl-q instead of Ctrl-w"? so fix your brain/fingers.
23:14 🔗 DFJustin yeah obviously have some intelligence in there, but there should be a process
23:14 🔗 arrith1 Coderjoe: that happens to me a bunch. i'd love an option switching that to ctrl alt q or ctrl shift q. right now you have to add this keyconfig fx addon
23:15 🔗 arrith1 Coderjoe: forks like that are actually pretty good if they can show pent up community desires. like the recent ffmpeg/libav stuff got the main ffmpeg guy to start accepting a bunch of changes that he wouldn't before, though a lot of devs i guess left for libav somewhat permanently
23:17 🔗 Coderjoe the freenet for failed, however. most horrific code I think I have ever laid eyes upon (that wasn't intentionally obfuscated). debugging by means of output traces or the like was impossible, as it scrolled exception traces nearly constantly
23:18 🔗 Coderjoe hit the end of a state chain (which was apparently a regular occurrance)? exception.
23:19 🔗 arrith1 hm, trying to fix bugs by making other stuff a lot more difficult doesn't really sound like a good way to go about it
23:22 🔗 DFJustin thunderbird 13 did finally add the ability to edit an rss feed URL in your subscriptions

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