#archiveteam-bs 2012-07-08,Sun

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00:00 🔗 omf_ for me it comes down to what it is
00:01 🔗 omf_ pure facts and tabular data are not owned by anyone. The phonebook lawsuit proved that
00:01 🔗 omf_ It is more about attitude
00:01 🔗 winr4r yup
00:01 🔗 omf_ we crowdsource the work and then charge (make you see ads) you for access to data you helped make
00:02 🔗 omf_ like how social sites are total assholes about getting personal data out
00:02 🔗 winr4r yeah
00:02 🔗 omf_ I made that shit, give it back to me
00:02 🔗 omf_ if imfdb offered something more than just facts in a basic wiki.
00:03 🔗 winr4r and you're doing that hoping that the IMFDB isn't going to do something awful
00:03 🔗 winr4r like, say, selling the site to wikia
00:04 🔗 omf_ fuck you want to hear about shit like that
00:04 🔗 omf_ back in the 90s I worked on a few different gaming sites. One site sold all the content to the parent company of Sybase
00:04 🔗 winr4r wonderful
00:04 🔗 omf_ All that data got locked up
00:05 🔗 omf_ in theory I do not even own the copyright to the 200 articles I wrote
00:05 🔗 winr4r if you didn't explicitly assign copyright to them, you do
00:05 🔗 omf_ just like how shit gets added to safaribooks and then disappears off the rest of the net
00:05 🔗 omf_ I know that
00:05 🔗 winr4r heh
00:06 🔗 omf_ do I want to go to court to fight about a deal I never saw or signed. no.
00:06 🔗 winr4r or how like, wikia quietly buys sites from the owners
00:06 🔗 omf_ can you give me some examples.
00:06 🔗 winr4r camerapedia
00:06 🔗 omf_ I thought most of wikia was CC
00:07 🔗 winr4r oh, it is CC, i just meant the whole "at the mercy of the people hosting your shit" thing
00:07 🔗 winr4r in camerapedia's case, a fork sprung up almost immediately
00:07 🔗 omf_ yeah
00:08 🔗 winr4r but that was still pretty crappy
00:08 🔗 omf_ for what reason other than new overlords
00:08 🔗 omf_ yep
02:56 🔗 omf_ I think I got another piece of my pre-emptive reddit crawler done
05:07 🔗 shaqfu Sigh; this one author wants to release his old hypertext writings for free, but his pub won't let him
05:07 🔗 shaqfu +1 victim to copyright :(
05:09 🔗 underscor :(
05:10 🔗 shaqfu You'd think a publisher would relent when it's in a format that's been dead for 20 years
05:10 🔗 shaqfu Might s well be written in Linear B
05:13 🔗 mistym shaqfu: Geeze :(
05:15 🔗 mistym And I take it their contract doesn't have a reversion clause for works that are out of print.
05:16 🔗 shaqfu Probably not
06:36 🔗 godane shaqfu: Uploading more dl.tv
06:42 🔗 Coderjoe (reading scrollback) there is some stuff that is only on 8-track... but that's because it was a stupid kid goofing off with a microphone and his parents' stereo with built-in 8-track recorder/player
06:43 🔗 Coderjoe I still have the stereo and tapes, but I think I need to fix the stereo first.
06:45 🔗 Coderjoe (as far as digitizing it, I already have an M-Audio Firewire 410 audio interface)
06:56 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe there's an odd recording idea, and I wonder if I did it. take an 8-track recorder and start recording. then, press the track cycle button on some regular, short interval.
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe then, after doing this for awhile, play it back
06:57 🔗 Coderjoe but this time, don't manually cycle
06:59 🔗 Coderjoe of course, in all of this i mean the 8-track cartridge format
07:10 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
07:10 🔗 Coderjoe there is some other 8-track primary material (with unknown later digitization/reproduction)
07:10 🔗 Coderjoe "The Stereo 8 also introduced the problem of dividing up the programming intended for a two-sided LP record into four programs. Often this resulted in songs being split into two parts (the split was often made during an instrumental break or a repeated chorus), song orders being reshuffled, shorter songs being repeated, and songs separated by long passages of silence. Some eight-tracks included extra musical content to
07:22 🔗 underscor http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jrv7Kity1qcbanwo1_1280.jpg
07:22 🔗 underscor woah, 2009 was a big year for bing
07:30 🔗 DFJustin http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300736846867
07:40 🔗 godane 4 dvds of dl.tv is uploaded
08:24 🔗 DFJustin some mame folks were looking into 8-track digitization a while back, I recall one of the issues that came up is that the foam inside old 8-tracks that keeps the tape running smoothly has now decayed in a lot of cases, so you need to open them up and check to avoid mayhem when playing them
08:30 🔗 DFJustin e.g. http://voices.yahoo.com/how-repair-8-track-tapes-like-pro-1447537.html
08:41 🔗 godane i'm up to episode 180 of dl.tv
08:43 🔗 godane i think this is something wants to get: http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2966519/72097047/
08:50 🔗 godane dam
08:50 🔗 godane http://www.demonoid.me/files/?uid=3783180&seeded=2
08:50 🔗 godane can someone start downloading that
08:51 🔗 godane dvd images of ImagineFX from 49-74
08:55 🔗 DFJustin might be better off having underscor grab that from the ia end
09:11 🔗 godane DFJustin: i also found issues of ImagineFX
09:12 🔗 godane pdfs i mean
09:12 🔗 godane i'm getting those
09:41 🔗 godane looks like dl.tv episode 183 and 184 are the same
11:22 🔗 godane i'm up to episode 188
13:15 🔗 godane i'm up to episode 194
13:50 🔗 Coderjoe DFJustin: but what if I want to meet a professional athlete today?
16:00 🔗 godane 200 episodes of dl.tv is up
16:00 🔗 godane :-D

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