[00:03] It always feels weird to lie to robots [00:04] have you gotten the leo mcgarry fan photos robot? [00:05] Nope - had to apply to a job via a robot system, and it asked a yes/no "have you used our niche CMS" [00:06] Where a "no" pipes your application to /dev/null [00:06] Thankfully it's FOSS, so I can quickly roll an install and play with it for an evening if all goes well [00:11] ? [00:11] shaqfu: Omeka [00:12] mistym: MDID [00:12] People actually use Omeka! [00:13] shaqfu: Ah, no kidding! When you name your CMS after your university, you can tell it's based on a "not invented here" philosophy [00:13] what isn't based on NIH? [00:15] mistym: When it's in "test mode at several institutions" it feels unfair to bin applications based on no experience [00:15] shaqfu: No kidding [00:15] So, I lied to a robot today about it [00:16] Its feelings are very hurt, I'm sure [00:17] We use Omeka for a transcription project, but it makes me angry almost daily [00:17] today its because it has a hardcoded file size limit, initially of about 10 mb [00:17] benuski: Yeah, it's finicky about stuff like that [00:18] In my use, it's been really fussy with ImageMagicking some filetypes [00:18] we're only using jpgs and pdfs with it, so its mostly treating us well [00:19] Ah, yeah - don't try it with JPEG2000 or TIFF [00:20] I'm surprised you use it for transcription - aren't there better systems for that? [00:21] maybe, but omeka + scripto is the best way we've found for our limited IT support. When we started, our volunteers were emailing their word files back to us, so scripto is a big upgrade [00:22] Ah, gotcha. Makes sense if you're limited - Omeka's free and flexible enough to be good-enough for most anything [00:23] Yeah; our IT team is energetic enough to install whatever we want for us, but we don't have money for big proprietary systems [00:23] which is fine for me, I prefer FOSS in general [02:54] What's a fair wget delay time, to not rape a server? [03:01] if you're trying to make yourself look more like a person, make sure it's at least a second or two long- otherwise, base it on how soon you expect the server to go down [03:02] also, the random wait can be useful as well [03:02] It's a small data hosting service in Texas; I figure it can't handle much [03:06] I'll just step it through 3k basic pages overnight at 4 sec each [03:08] it would be nice if the wait time didn't apply to page requisites, as a normal browser would get those all together, then there would be a delay before moving on to the next page [03:08] Thankfully I'm skipping those [03:08] I just needs wads of text data [03:09] (as far as hiding out as if you were a human browser and not wget slurping everything down) [03:09] Hm, actually, just grabbing text and telling it to ignore might help their servers [03:09] Ignore the giant American flag banner, at least [03:13] I gotta say, wget+perl are such phenomenal data-building tools [03:13] if you want to hide and not look like a robot, browsing a few pages and then leaving never to return would be pretty good idea [03:14] mmm. ipv6 will make that fun [03:14] chronomex: I don't care about looking like a robot; I care about not doing a one-man DoS attack by accident [03:14] I get people on my website who look at 500 pages over the course of 6 hours [03:14] I don't know what their infrastructure looks like [03:14] I think they're kind of not people [03:15] But it's a small muni org, so I assume it sucks [03:15] care to share a domain name? [03:16] http://www.tml.org/source/members/TML_Directory.cfm [03:17] Each page has id=X, and I need to step through about 3k [03:18] well, the web server appears to be hosted with peer1 dedicated hosting, at least [03:19] Is that solid hosting? [03:19] but only one server (unless they use a load balancer or the like, which I haven't probed for) [03:20] ew [03:21] ? [03:21] it appears to be IIS 6.0 on windows server 2k3 [03:22] (that's what netcraft says. my single wget poke confirms IIS 6.0 and ASP.NET) [03:23] so hammer it like the fist of an angry god [03:23] IIS on winserver 2k3 is stable like the tectonic plates! [03:23] I wouldn't call 3k pages over a night "hammering" [03:24] Then again, after totally fucking up Parodius by accident I'm really jumpy about that sort of thing [03:25] parodius would have nabbed you anyway, unless you were grabbing a page a day or something [03:25] he was watching his network usage and per-host stats pretty closely [03:26] True [03:42] github just pulled 100m$ of seed moneys [03:43] * Aranje claps [03:50] How's github ever plan on making money? [03:50] Selling support? [03:51] private repos are fee-based [03:51] Ah [03:52] and possibly ads (that I don't typically see) [03:57] iirc it's all private repos [03:57] and their appliance thing [03:58] underscor: Did you get my PM last night? [03:58] oh hey! [03:58] yeah, and it's unread :x [03:58] sorry [03:58] No sweat [04:00] shaqfu: all moved [04:00] underscor: <3 [04:00] :) [05:49] I know quite a few GitHub actual costumers [05:50] Most of them know you can get free private repositories at BitBucket (also git, owned by Alassian) - but they still pay a few dollars to GitHub instead [05:50] bitbucket used to be hg-only ;) [05:53] yeah, I know. [06:21] adkaskdjaksdjas [06:21] OK, working so hard, I'm about to cancel one of my "things" [06:21] Sp I don't die. [06:33] not dying is a good plan [06:33] it beats doing the opposite, imo [07:37] I'll add SketchCow to the Deathwatch page on the wiki [07:46] 3d world 149 is uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-3d-world-149 [10:13] looks like someone release 3 cover cds of window magazines [10:13] *windows [10:14] comes with images of cd cover and back [17:28] hm, http://archive.org/details/cdbbsarchive is kinda mistitled nowadays because of all the cover discs [19:10] csshx is a pretty fun tool [19:23] I'll add SketchCow to the Deathwatch page on the wiki [19:23] hahahaah [19:40] IF I WERE MASTURBATING TO STAR WARS I WOULD BE HAND SOLO [19:42] star wars? does that have something to do with uranus? [19:47] Hand Solo and Chewie [19:47] that's vaguely disgusting [20:00] hahaha [22:53] 15:40 < underscor> IF I WERE MASTURBATING TO STAR WARS I WOULD BE HAND SOLO [22:53] I forgot what it felt like to log onto IRC and get hit with a Jerkcity line [22:53] :D [22:55] Thankfully the site is trivial to mirror - can't lose 13+ years of fine quotes about masturbation [23:02] There was a quote database backup project done by an old member [23:02] Worked really well surprisingly [23:02] Guy must have left the AT though [23:10] shaqfu: i fucking love jerkcity