[01:10] everything from mobileme here has been sent in [01:10] i don't think all the copies here have been deleted yet though [02:30] I think I've uploaded about 99% of what MobileMe stuff I have, but my OS hard drive has been dying, and now very little works. Thankfully it's not a data-loss issue, but it'll be a little while before I run the upload script again. [02:31] Then again, perhaps someone else also downloaded those bits anyway. [03:41] Odd; I'm getting a "scheme missing" when wget'ing with --input [03:41] Even though it's a textfile of URLs that it wgets fine individually [03:59] Oh, hah; forgot http:// before the url [04:14] heh [04:27] always the simple stuff [04:30] Nintendud: I know that you collect something interesting, but I don't remember what [04:30] It was either mags or discs [04:31] Both. [04:31] And I swear, this place becomes more and more UG Exclave [04:31] Haha. I was sucked into here last year outside of UG. [04:31] Yeah, I remember you doing something with DFJ(?) [04:33] yeah, sortof. DFJustin mentioned that archive.org was interested in my PC Gamer disc collection [04:33] so I contacted SketchCow and uploaded them to his server [04:33] I'm working on a second batch to upload and add to the collection [04:35] I have a bunch of other non-pcgamer discs that I plan to contribute once I get this project done [04:35] I have a crapload of magazines as well, but, as far as I know, contributing them means destroying them. [04:35] which I'm unwilling to do [04:39] Ah, gotcha [04:39] but anyway, last year I ran a box that helped index some of the Yahoo Video content [04:39] since apparently it was rate limited on a per-IP basis. I didn't have the bandwidth or space at the time to help out with actual video archiving [04:52] why would it require destroying them? [04:52] perfectbound? they make book scanners for that [04:52] Coderjoe: Is that the glue-based binding vs. staples? [04:53] I thought that the only way to scan magazines was to destroy the binding [04:53] Perhaps I'm wrong. [04:53] For stapled ones, you can always just restaple them [04:53] If destroying them is not necessary, then I would happily lend them for archiving. [04:53] Most aren't stapled. [04:54] Only the smaller pamphlet-sized ones are stapled [04:54] or the ones that are <30 pages long or so [04:54] Yeah, it's not common. Stuff like NP was always glue-bound [04:54] Yup. [04:54] * Nintendud has every Nintendo Power magazine [04:55] But their inserts, I think, were glue [04:55] Er, staple [04:55] if they had comics inside, the comics were bound with staples [04:56] When did they have comics? I just remember the ones printed in the mag, like Metroid and Zelda and Nester [04:56] Pokemon. [04:56] Must've been after I stopped reading [04:56] Yeah. It was during my childhood. [04:58] I have a bunch of miscellaneous cool stuff from shuey, though. Like a folder filled with funcoland pamphlets that list the purchase price of various games [04:58] Oh, neat. Those are always useful for charting [04:58] Big data: video games edition [04:59] those could easily be scanned in. [04:59] Do you have any scanned ATM? [04:59] Curious to see them [05:00] Nope. And they are all the way in my condo, on the other coast of the US. [05:00] * Nintendud is in California for the summer. [05:00] If you poke me come September, I'd happily scan one or two [05:01] Do you know if they're up anywhere else? [05:01] I haven't actually searched around [05:02] http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=67695 [05:03] Looks like I'm not the only one with copies of them, though [05:03] Wow, that's complete [05:07] I should scan them, run OCR on them, and correct them using mechanical turk tasks [05:07] lol [05:07] er, correct the transcription [05:08] a one-vehicle crash in texas, a pick-up truck struck some trees and no people. 10 dead, 12 injured. [05:08] o_o [05:08] http://bigstory.ap.org/article/authorities-10-dead-after-truck-crashes-texas [05:08] I just [05:09] how do you fit 22 people in an f-250?! [05:09] Nintendud: That'd be fantastic [05:09] It'd be neat to chart avg game prices over time [05:09] yeah, and when they appear/disappear off the chart [05:10] underscor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCRffoTiGE [05:11] ooh [05:15] underscor:) You've obviously never grown up on a farm. It's pretty easy. [05:15] My mother fit about that many people in her chrystler new yorker in high school. [05:17] :o [05:19] http://metaception.com/schwa/ [05:19] one of my favorite phenomes [05:20] lol [05:21] It's also worthwhile to note that her chrystler new yorker's name was "The Jesus Chrystler" [05:22] Rofl [05:56] Fuck [05:57] Either 1/1/1970 was a busy day, or the idiots behind this site let a date default to UNIX genesis :( [05:58] lol nice [07:22] fuck fuck goddamn nibble swapped bullshit [07:29] nibble [08:02] good morning my lovelies [08:15] o/ [08:15] Please keep me entertained today to stop me going bonkers! [08:26] okay! [08:26] :) [08:35] :D [08:43] work is much more fun when i can swear about shit on IRC anyway [08:44] :D [08:44] well I'm just banging my head against a wall here [08:44] stupid stupid CentOS kernel [08:46] what's wrong with it? [08:48] using CFQ scheduler I think [08:50] no, chronomex, stop coding and go to bed. [08:50] or at least watch some tv [08:53] haha [08:53] go to fucking bed [12:48] got internet back [12:58] hi godane [13:00] hey winr4r [13:01] uploading more gbtv [13:01] i'm saddly missing part of episode 2011-12-09 [13:01] one of the on the record episodes [13:08] awesome :) [13:19] i should be able to get all of dec 2011 up by the end of this week [13:20] excellent :) [13:20] then i will start doing jan 2012 [13:47] * SmileyG ponders [13:57] SmileyG: What are you pondering about? [14:04] everything [14:04] had a headache all day :/ [14:04] I actually woke up with it [14:05] are you pondering what I'm pondering? [14:07] like we do every night [14:07] try to backup the internet [14:12] god I have so many projects my head spins sometimes [14:15] i'm just slowly uploading stuff to archive.org [14:15] not thinking i'm going to get it all up there [14:16] but a good chuck of it i hope [14:16] also btw i got episode 12-06-2011 of gbtv up [14:16] uploading episode 12-07-2011 [14:18] i also plan on getting everything off of my 500gb usb hard drive [14:18] today [14:19] i plan on only putting the stuff i don't want to lose on the 500gb usb [14:24] is there any plans on doing a flickr backup? [14:34] hmmmm [14:34] trying to grab an iso here at work from a provider. [14:34] wget ends up with a html file o_O [14:35] ah I need to login or use the cookie some how, I've never done this before, can you help godane or winr4r ? :D [14:37] ah got it, found some plugin to export the cookies.txt :D [14:51] SmileyG: :) [16:12] winr4r: Uploaded: http://archive.org/details/GBTV_12_07_2011 [16:12] 2 episodes was uploaded today [16:13] cool :) [16:13] uploading my third episode for today [16:19] i also downloaded some sony playstation magazines [16:19] the Official US Playstation magazine [16:44] godane: cool! [16:48] i'm close to getting the full digit magazine [16:49] its a tech magazine from india [16:49] there is also a digit magazine from uk thats about digital artist [16:50] awesome :) [16:50] also getting chip magazines from india [16:51] 2008 to 2009 ones [16:51] torrent is slow but its downloading [16:51] just its about dialup [16:51] speed [16:53] looks like one person has everything for digit [16:53] but its only one tracker udp [16:54] sounds about right. [19:00] SketchCow: just fyi, you did seem to drop off freenode [19:02] did we get delicious? [19:06] as in delicious.com ? [19:06] Man I say we like I'm involved. heh. [19:08] royal we [19:08] i know jason was doing something on that count [19:16] btw is there a list of scanned Dr. Dobbs magazine issues? [19:17] the very earliest issues were on acid paper [19:31] balrog_: Acid paper? How old/cheap is it? [19:33] 70s [19:33] it's pretty yellow, almost orange [19:33] Yikes [19:33] Is this your personal collection, or Temple? I know they collected a few 'zines [19:33] (IIRC they have a run of OSFAN) [20:15] shaqfu: not official Temple [20:17] hey shattered [20:17] and hey again [20:17] #archiveteam tends to be used for more official Archive Team related stuff, and some people complain when we go too off-topic there :p [20:17] so, I've got maybe 500 floppy disks [20:17] 5 1/4 [20:17] hmm, nice [20:18] what sort of formats / data on them? [20:18] didn't count them yet [20:18] PC, ZX Spectrum, DEC RT-11, CP/M [20:18] ah, neat [20:18] maybe some Apple II (clone) [20:19] there's a lot of unidentified ones -- i've already processed around 150 of these [20:19] no label? [20:19] some labeled, but still not readable as MFM [20:19] ahhh [20:19] these might be GCR [20:19] or might be bulk erased. [20:20] no info. [20:20] a retrocomputing club collected these and it's shut down now [20:20] ooh [20:20] yeah. try to get whatever materials they had. [20:20] they are saving the machines elsewhere, I got the warez!1 [20:20] would be nice to image the hard drives from the machines though [20:21] I'm involved with the Discferret, but we're a little stalled on the software side at this point, unfortunately. I'm trying to get things moving there but it's hard to find people who are motivated and skilled [20:21] that's not too simple, they are mostly MFM [20:21] anyway, the HDs are not accessible atm. [20:21] MFM hard drives ... doable but annoying. [20:22] Shugart/Seagate didn't even follow their own standard for the early ones. [20:22] yeah, there was one that I'd really like to get dumped, but it's lost and/or fried [20:22] :[ [20:23] what sort of drives do you have? [20:23] I'll get the machine I used to dump them on soon, it's got a confirmed working drive [20:24] I used to use an Epson SD-800 (dual), but it was slightly b0rked [20:24] aahhh. [20:25] certain disks read better in a 360K drive [20:25] (because of the wide head) [20:25] hm hm [20:26] I think most of these disks are 96tpi [20:26] yeah, most are [20:27] and they were written on 720K drive [20:27] at least [20:27] I'll try to get a 360K drive too [20:27] as for the more unusual disks ... it's tricky, especially when you don't know what format they are [20:29] I wrote some shell scripts that help [20:29] they mostly use fdrawcmd [20:29] I see [20:29] have you heard of anadisk? [20:29] only heard, not used [20:29] it's pretty neat, but can only do FM/MFM [20:30] Lord_Nigh knows more about it than I do [20:30] one of the simpler weird formats has 1K sectors and disjoint sector numbering [20:30] i.e. 1 2 3 4 5 19 [20:31] huh. [20:31] used by certain OS for Spectrum [20:31] shaqfu: I did get an epson 1640xl though :) [20:31] ooh. interesting! [20:31] do you have hard-sectored disks too? [20:31] iS-DOS [20:31] no [20:31] 8", you mean? [20:32] no, hard-sectored [20:32] they have an index hole for each sector [20:32] ah [20:32] I thought these only existed in 8" [20:32] pretty sure they existed in both [20:32] they exist in 5.25" too [20:32] i have a box of them here [20:32] never saw one :-) [20:33] i think one or two really early 5.25" things used them [20:33] they were not popular [20:33] since the advent of soft sectoring had come into play [20:34] some of the more weird things I'd like to dump is this: http://victorborisov.ru/professor/december_26_2009/photo_14.jpg [20:34] that a laserdisc? [20:35] yep [20:35] not just any [20:35] hmm, vt-320. neat. [20:35] a disc for DEC's IVIS educational system [20:35] you have a lot of DEC stuff? [20:35] not really [20:35] and this disc is not mine [20:35] btw, anyone here know what's the best way to scan microfiche? [20:35] well, laserdiscs can be dumped pretty well, including ones for data systems [20:36] again, ask Lord_Nigh, and he can direct you to the right people [20:36] laserdisc <3 [20:36] you need certain models of LD player, as well as certain video capture cards [20:36] otherwise you'll miss the between-frame data [20:36] owner of this disc is hard to deal with, so I've put this idea on hold [20:37] :/ [20:37] :/ [20:38] balrog_: Depends on how the data's stored, too. e.g. Laseractive stuff is stored on the digital audio track, and most players don't have a reliable output for that. [20:38] yeah, which is why I said *certain* models [20:39] Is there actually a player with a bulletproof data-out for that? I'd be interested in knowing that. [20:39] well, afaik the MAME guys have it more or less down to a science [20:40] Yeah, but I thought the LDs they're dumping leave the data on the arcade board, and only really have minimal metadata on the disc itself. [20:40] Could be wrong though. [20:40] plenty of them have important data in the Philips codes [20:40] http://aarongiles.com/?p=238 etc [20:41] Ah, yeah, true! That's actually different from what I'm talking about though. [20:42] there should be docs on DEC IVIS, though [20:42] and I think someone on #classiccmp has one [20:43] mistym: yeah [20:43] right now what we're looking for DEC-wise is VK100/GIGI documentation, schematics in particular [20:43] I guess bitsavers doesn't have it? [20:44] nope [20:45] and neither does scribd and other places [20:46] nope [20:49] I'll be back in some time :) [20:49] i have digit magazine from 2001 and 2002 [20:50] well, at least the part number is known, MP-00893-00 [21:06] interesting, i HAVE a vt-320 [21:06] if you need to get the LD ripped, email aaron giles, he can direct you to warren ondras and others who have a functional LD ripping setup [21:07] while i have an LD player here i don't have the special type of capture card which is needed to grab the philips codes from vblank :( [21:07] i also don't have ANY LDs [21:07] just the player [21:07] What did you get the player for? [21:07] rescued from university trash [21:07] Aha [21:07] i rescued it to eventually get a ripping setup going [21:08] but i need that ati-all-in-wonder-II-PRO PCI or AGP card plus some 'slightly modified' drivers to get the vblank ripping working [21:09] aaron can be emailed at aaron@aarongiles.com iirc [21:09] * shattered has neither ld player nor ld's [21:09] actually let me email aaron and warren right now asking about what card that is again, snce i can probably snag one for cheap on ebay [21:09] buy two, you never know when it fails [21:12] if i get an LD ripping rig running, can you arrange to lend that LD? [21:12] the IVIS vt320 ones [21:12] -s [21:12] also, do you know about 'Glass TTY VT220' font? [21:13] i've heard of it [21:13] Lord_Nigh: I might give it a try, but do you realize I'm in Russia? :-) [21:13] ah [21:13] wait YOU'RE the guy who made the cyrillic vt220 font? [21:13] yeah [21:14] er, no [21:14] I only saved the font itself, and svofski found it and made the TTF version [21:15] I did not expect someone would actually find it useful, but there it is [21:15] ah [21:15] was the font one of the ones listed here: http://npj.netangels.ru/shattered/inventory/fonts [21:15] yep [21:15] ok [21:15] decfnt.zip and vt_fonts.zip iirc are dead links [21:16] one was mirrored on a fortunecity site but even archiveteams archive of fortunecity messed up since the file is 0 bytes [21:16] that site is not accessible to me now [21:16] in the archive [21:16] but I do have the files [21:16] let me put them somewhere [21:16] ok [21:19] http://goput.it/ze3.zip vt_fonts.zip [21:20] http://goput.it/13f.zip cyrvtfnt.zip [21:20] http://goput.it/ai6.zip decfnt.zip [21:20] http://goput.it/tn0.rar vt_fonts.rar -- might be a dup [21:43] thx grabbing [21:45] git em [21:45] got em [21:45] thanks! [21:50] any time [22:40] Bahahahaha [22:40] Reading the flames on Twitter [22:46] wow [22:46] i'm reading the retard on twitter [22:50] well, that was a bit harsh since i'm sure she's not actually as dumb as she's pretending to be, but wow, that was weak [22:51] "When I encounter snark and alarmist talk, I often stop listening" [22:51] or, "i was not listening to the talk but i'm okay with criticising it anyway" [22:51] ehh could just be having a bad day [22:52] yeah, probably [22:52] :) [22:55] Kinda surprised he ended up at a law lib conference [22:55] http://www.softconference.com/aall/handouts/handouts.html [22:56] Litigation, law students, legal research, Archive Team, international law resources [22:59] o/~ one of these things is not like the others o/~ [23:00] winr4r: what on twitter? [23:02] good morning/evening balrog_ [23:03] tl;dr: someone goes to see JS, doesn't actually listen to JS, imagines things he said, blah blah blah [23:04] Also, I want a cross of motherboards [23:04] That sounds like a badass thing to have