#archiveteam-bs 2012-10-18,Thu

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00:25 🔗 dashcloud if you like the power efficiency of ARM devices, but would like to step up to something with more power, the first ARM servers are rolling out: http://www.boston.co.uk/solutions/viridis/default.aspx (article here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/09/boston_viridis_arm_server/)
00:26 🔗 dashcloud if you go by the pricing in the register article, a little pricey for the average man right now, but hopefully with more vendors, we'll get better pricing soon
01:34 🔗 joepie91 wasn't some project already giving out free VMs on ARM servers
01:35 🔗 joepie91 ah there
01:35 🔗 joepie91 http://calxeda.us5.list-manage2.com/subscribe?u=b75fa1e18ed23997b18da37b0&id=9d06104a18
01:40 🔗 joepie91 @ dashcloud
01:49 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4
01:49 🔗 SketchCow Constantly blasting in the archive team hq
01:51 🔗 BlueMax in other words, your intermodal container
02:04 🔗 dashcloud thanks joepie91
02:04 🔗 joepie91 np
02:04 🔗 joepie91 they work pretty well btw :P
02:05 🔗 dashcloud so you've used them for archiveteam stuff or for other things?
02:06 🔗 joepie91 nah, just some random playing around
13:51 🔗 balrog_ SketchCow: did you receive those Amiga disks yet?
15:53 🔗 mistym_ Protip: Use a bit.ly url as the canonical link to your source tarball http://clang-analyzer.llvm.org/
15:55 🔗 underscor gross
15:56 🔗 joepie91 that is evil
15:56 🔗 mistym Yeah.
15:57 🔗 mistym They also take down the old tarballs every time they release a new version. :(
15:57 🔗 joepie91 urgh
15:57 🔗 underscor attache.apple.com?
15:57 🔗 joepie91 whyyy
15:57 🔗 underscor ....
15:57 🔗 underscor don't tell me this is hosted on something like mobileme
15:58 🔗 mistym underscor: Looks to me to be some Apple developer thing.
15:59 🔗 underscor oic
16:00 🔗 Aranje lol I tried to use bitly as a wrapper for my download link to aranjepack
16:00 🔗 Aranje they flagged it as spam because I'm linking directly to an exe
16:00 🔗 Aranje :D
16:02 🔗 Aranje oh, have real hosting for it now
16:03 🔗 Aranje gbit line, get real speeds :D
16:12 🔗 joepie91 Aranje, mistym, thoughts on this design for a 'submit your news and press releases' site? http://cryto.net/projects/anonnews/
16:13 🔗 Aranje Well, depending on what exactly you're going for, I'd make the boxes just a little bigger. I'd figure anything sorta journalistic would want the first paragraph (silly hook) to be fully displayed.
16:13 🔗 joepie91 nah, it's really just a teaser
16:13 🔗 joepie91 an index page
16:14 🔗 Aranje mmk
16:14 🔗 joepie91 I should probably give a bit more context
16:14 🔗 Aranje otherwise it looks good
16:14 🔗 joepie91 anonnews is currently suffering from information overload
16:14 🔗 Aranje though, do style the footer somehow
16:14 🔗 Aranje even if it's just a <hr>
16:14 🔗 joepie91 there are so many PRs and ops and articles that from the title alone you can't determine whether something is interesting or not
16:14 🔗 Aranje yeah.
16:14 🔗 joepie91 so the idea is to display the first two sentences or so, or an image
16:14 🔗 joepie91 to grab peoples attention towards things they find interesting
16:14 🔗 joepie91 and the footer was styled, but that was a bit lost when I changed the color scheme lol
16:14 🔗 Aranje haha
16:15 🔗 joepie91 it has a subtly different color now, but needs changing :P
16:15 🔗 joepie91 I also still need to add a drop shadow for the line between header and content
16:15 🔗 joepie91 in some way
16:15 🔗 Aranje give the author (poster) the choice, image in the background or small paragraph of X character length, after title?
16:15 🔗 Aranje (for the box display)
16:15 🔗 joepie91 actually, it picks an image if it's available
16:15 🔗 joepie91 and the text otherwise
16:15 🔗 * Aranje nods
16:16 🔗 joepie91 because the text is usually just a textual representation of the image or video
16:20 🔗 Aranje is the chosing of articles for the front page going to be based purely on recency?
16:20 🔗 joepie91 recency and popularity
16:20 🔗 joepie91 one row for each
16:20 🔗 Aranje mmk
16:20 🔗 joepie91 the last two rows are external and related sites
16:21 🔗 * Aranje nods
16:21 🔗 Aranje hmm
16:21 🔗 joepie91 Aranje, force refresh http://cryto.net/projects/anonnews/
16:21 🔗 joepie91 added drop shadow for the content area line
16:21 🔗 joepie91 :P
16:22 🔗 Aranje mm
16:22 🔗 joepie91 it's a bit hacky but ok
16:22 🔗 Aranje I want to say "put 4 in a row" for the top two
16:22 🔗 Aranje instead of 3
16:22 🔗 joepie91 it can't get wider than this
16:22 🔗 Aranje don't decrease the size though
16:22 🔗 Aranje oh?
16:22 🔗 joepie91 ;)
16:22 🔗 Aranje assuming shitty screen res?
16:22 🔗 joepie91 not everyone has 1920x1080
16:22 🔗 joepie91 I'm using 900px as base
16:23 🔗 * Aranje nods
16:23 🔗 joepie91 works well for laptops etc as well
16:23 🔗 Aranje 960grid heh
16:23 🔗 joepie91 well yes, but modified
16:23 🔗 joepie91 960 is good for text
16:23 🔗 joepie91 900 is better for tiles
16:23 🔗 joepie91 due to it looking more 'filled'
16:23 🔗 * Aranje nods
16:23 🔗 joepie91 tiles with 960 looks too bloated
16:23 🔗 joepie91 anyway, does the drop shadow work correctly for you?
16:23 🔗 joepie91 because it was quite tricky to do in HTML+CSS :P
16:23 🔗 Aranje I get a fat line around them
16:24 🔗 joepie91 screenshot?
16:24 🔗 Aranje well if you use the css3 drop shadow thing, should be easy
16:24 🔗 joepie91 well, no, it isn't
16:24 🔗 Aranje really?
16:24 🔗 joepie91 the shadows can't overlay either the content area or the buttons
16:24 🔗 joepie91 so you have to add dummy divs to create the shadows on different z-indexes
16:24 🔗 joepie91 and an overlay div to cut off the shadow on the content area
16:24 🔗 joepie91 :P
16:25 🔗 joepie91 it's basically an optical illusion in HTML/CSS
16:25 🔗 joepie91 it LOOKS like the whole content area is gray, but it isn't
16:25 🔗 Aranje I um
16:25 🔗 joepie91 there's actually a 2px and a 5px height div stacked on top of each other just under the buttons
16:25 🔗 joepie91 :P
16:25 🔗 joepie91 respectively creating and cutting off shadows
16:25 🔗 Aranje article.text { drop-shadow here }
16:25 🔗 joepie91 look at the DOM inspector :)
16:26 🔗 joepie91 that would overlay the buttons
16:26 🔗 joepie91 oh, you mean the tiles?
16:26 🔗 joepie91 I mean the header
16:26 🔗 Aranje yes
16:26 🔗 Aranje OH
16:26 🔗 Aranje motherfucker
16:26 🔗 joepie91 the tiles have no shadow
16:26 🔗 joepie91 Aranje: open the DOM inspector and remove the shadow-cutter and shadow-adder respectively
16:26 🔗 joepie91 and see what happens
16:27 🔗 Aranje .page-header nav a {}
16:27 🔗 Aranje that's what is doing it
16:27 🔗 joepie91 yes
16:28 🔗 joepie91 but as I said
16:28 🔗 joepie91 remove the shadow-cutter and shadow-adder
16:28 🔗 joepie91 from the DOM
16:28 🔗 joepie91 and see what happens
16:28 🔗 Aranje where is dom
16:28 🔗 joepie91 and you'll understand why those dummy divs are there
16:28 🔗 joepie91 ...
16:28 🔗 joepie91 what browser?
16:28 🔗 Aranje chrome
16:28 🔗 joepie91 right click just under the buttons
16:28 🔗 joepie91 inspect element
16:28 🔗 Aranje yep
16:28 🔗 joepie91 you'll see shadow-cutter and shadow-adder in the DOM tree
16:28 🔗 joepie91 remove each of them
16:28 🔗 Aranje there already, looking at elements tab
16:28 🔗 joepie91 and watch the difference
16:29 🔗 Aranje what tab should I be looking at
16:29 🔗 joepie91 Elements...
16:29 🔗 joepie91 ...
16:29 🔗 Aranje OH
16:29 🔗 joepie91 ...
16:29 🔗 Aranje they're below
16:29 🔗 joepie91 yes...
16:29 🔗 Aranje dude my screen isn't that tall
16:29 🔗 Aranje I can't see those at the same time as the menu code
16:29 🔗 Aranje haha
16:29 🔗 joepie91 wat
16:29 🔗 joepie91 <joepie91>right click just under the buttons
16:29 🔗 joepie91 if you right click UNDER the buttons
16:29 🔗 joepie91 >.>
16:29 🔗 joepie91 you won't get the whole page header code
16:29 🔗 Aranje boring people right click where they're supposed to
16:30 🔗 joepie91 lol
16:30 🔗 joepie91 anyway, you found it?
16:30 🔗 Aranje oh, I see what you did
16:30 🔗 joepie91 :)
16:32 🔗 Aranje hmm
16:33 🔗 Aranje I should bump my retroshare guide
16:33 🔗 Aranje haha
16:33 🔗 Aranje in the anonnews forum
16:33 🔗 Aranje biggest shitstorm ever
16:33 🔗 Aranje lol
16:34 🔗 underscor sigh
16:34 🔗 underscor I need to reinstall retroshare
16:34 🔗 underscor and get back into that
16:34 🔗 underscor retroshare is p aweomse
16:34 🔗 underscor awesome*
16:35 🔗 Aranje I hated it
16:35 🔗 Aranje neat idea, shit devs
16:35 🔗 joepie91 needs python implementation
16:36 🔗 joepie91 in library formn
16:36 🔗 joepie91 form *
16:36 🔗 Aranje they're all about forums and stuff, which is cool. But I basically got "fuck you, we don't care" in regards to the programs inability to handle more than a few thousand files.
16:37 🔗 Aranje what they said was more on the lines of "we're not targetting users with more than 1k files"
16:37 🔗 Aranje my response was "well then you're not a file sharing client, are you?"
16:38 🔗 DFJustin lol 1000
16:38 🔗 Aranje yeah.
16:38 🔗 Aranje I'd be fine if they said "not targetting users with >100k files".
16:39 🔗 Aranje that actually seems reasonable.
16:39 🔗 Aranje not ideal for me of course, but tooootally understandable.
16:40 🔗 DFJustin was just reading this, the average collection of music files alone is 1,444 http://piracy.americanassembly.org/where-do-music-collections-come-from/
16:41 🔗 Aranje yeah.
16:41 🔗 Aranje Mine is around 10k, just for music
16:41 🔗 Aranje let alone anything else I may wish to share
16:42 🔗 Aranje I had to set their rescan setting to once per day because it locked up my computer to do it
16:45 🔗 joepie91 :p
16:45 🔗 joepie91 Aranje: write a python lib!
16:46 🔗 Aranje I don't want to code
16:46 🔗 Aranje so many people tell me to code things, and I don't want to
16:48 🔗 joepie91 lol
16:48 🔗 SketchCow For the record my massive collection of Amiga Disks arrived.
16:57 🔗 Aranje and... google released their earnings report in midday trading
16:57 🔗 Aranje down 9% already
16:59 🔗 Aranje hahahahahaha they froze trading of google shares
16:59 🔗 Aranje to stop the dropping
16:59 🔗 Sue what happened
17:00 🔗 Aranje they missed their targets
17:00 🔗 Aranje by 500 million dollars
17:00 🔗 Aranje and released in the middle of trading day, which you're not supposed to do apparently
17:00 🔗 Aranje and I can see why
17:01 🔗 Aranje It's a big complex miss, but still
17:01 🔗 Aranje http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1288776/000119312512426975/0001193125-12-426975-index.htm
17:01 🔗 Aranje http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-18/google-reports-early-huge-miss-sends-stock-plunging
17:02 🔗 Aranje heh
17:02 🔗 Aranje the first is their sec filing
17:04 🔗 Aranje humbum
17:04 🔗 Aranje exciting morning :D
17:04 🔗 underscor aww, trade halted
17:04 🔗 underscor I wanted to buy some too
17:05 🔗 Aranje haha yeah
17:05 🔗 Aranje wait till it hits bottom, buy a couple shares
17:05 🔗 Aranje there's your official article with numbers: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/google-profit-falls-misses-estimates-2012-10-18
17:07 🔗 SketchCow Updating FOS to the new ubuntu
17:07 🔗 SketchCow What could possibly go wrong
17:07 🔗 joepie91 uhoh
17:07 🔗 Aranje everything
17:07 🔗 joepie91 I don't know... everything?
17:07 🔗 Aranje wwait
17:07 🔗 joepie91 lol :P
17:07 🔗 Aranje is it ubuntu server?
17:08 🔗 Aranje cause their server distro isn't half bad
17:08 🔗 SketchCow Upgrading
17:08 🔗 SketchCow apport: unrecognized service
17:08 🔗 SketchCow Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6 for libnih1, probably a dependency cycle.
17:08 🔗 SketchCow Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
17:08 🔗 Aranje ahah
17:08 🔗 Aranje I um
17:08 🔗 Aranje yeah, wait a week
17:08 🔗 joepie91 lol
17:08 🔗 joepie91 hahaha
17:09 🔗 Aranje that's what I do with ubuntu
17:09 🔗 Aranje which is actually much better than windows, which is wait an entire service pack
17:09 🔗 Aranje lmfao
17:09 🔗 underscor sigh
17:09 🔗 underscor I much prefer debian for servers
17:09 🔗 joepie91 Aranje: lol
17:10 🔗 Aranje 1 week or 9 months and a service pack? I think the choice is pretty clear
17:10 🔗 joepie91 and, indeed
17:10 🔗 Aranje yeah
17:10 🔗 Aranje I prefer freebsd over everything else for servers, but debian is a very solid second in my list
17:10 🔗 SketchCow The FOS machine was upgraded from 2gb to 8gb of RAM.
17:10 🔗 Aranje YEAH :D
17:10 🔗 SketchCow This should help with a bunch of these high-end insane grabs I'm doing.
17:11 🔗 underscor sexy
17:12 🔗 joepie91 btw, SketchCow: http://aarnist.cryto.net:81/at-arraydesign.warc.gz http://aarnist.cryto.net:81/at-designinganalogchips.warc.gz http://aarnist.cryto.net:81/at-historyofelectronics.warc.gz
17:12 🔗 joepie91 grabs of three sites from a guy that died recently
17:12 🔗 joepie91 <balrog_>Hans Camezind died earlier this year :(
17:12 🔗 joepie91 including some dirs that aren't linked from the main site (with the old site etc)
17:12 🔗 joepie91 for historyofelectronics, at least
17:13 🔗 Aranje ugh too many tabs
17:13 🔗 * Aranje goes on a shooting spree
17:24 🔗 Aranje yay :D https://twitter.com/Aranjedeath/status/258981662103318528
19:06 🔗 SmileyG Aww thats cute.
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