#archiveteam-bs 2012-10-22,Mon

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Time Nickname Message
04:51 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://imgur.com/a/jj8xA
04:53 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex is that woz pissing from a segway?
04:54 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow yes
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://macenstein.com/default/2008/11/please-tell-me-this-is-photshopped/
04:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://gizmodo.com/5095603/woz-really-does-everything-on-his-segway#c9054150
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex ok
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I get the idea
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex woz is weird
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Hey now
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The first is speculation
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The second has first-person
04:57 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex and a reference to http://urinal.net/
04:57 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Please remove the textfiles for the ASCII zine called "Cropduster." I wrote these 20+ years ago and do not want them someone to circulate them still under my real name.
04:57 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I have asked you several times over several years to do this.
04:57 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow --
04:57 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow You would think the second line would indicate the needlessness of writing the first.
04:58 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex well
04:58 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex some people are special
04:58 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CROPDUSTER/
04:59 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex maybe I should attempt to get a paper copy
05:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Naturally permission is granted to distribute Cropduster in any way you would
05:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 like, but please leave it as it is so that others can see our mistakes as
05:08 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 well.
05:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 well
05:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 wish granted, it seems to me
05:09 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
05:11 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex over and over and over and over
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow forever
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex this is the license that never ends
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex it goes on and on my friends
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— Sue what if he was just asking for a s/name/anonymous/
05:20 ๐Ÿ”— Sue *g
05:21 ๐Ÿ”— Sue devil's advocate
05:21 ๐Ÿ”— Sue oh, didn't read line 2 of joepie
05:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :P
05:21 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 also, SketchCow, others, what is the recommended DPI for scanning comics?
05:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 400 seems a bit over the top
05:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 although it does look very nice and high-res :P
05:22 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex scan everything 600 if you can do it
05:22 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex 300 is acceptable
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 600 takes forever on this thing :/
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex then the highest resolution that you can justify the time for
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I think I'll go with 300 then
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 right
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex no less than 300
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 let me make a first scan and upload the result
05:23 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex k
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— * joepie91 is automating his scanning
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 I'll upload the 400 DPI one in the meantime
05:24 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex ok
05:26 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex 300dpi is usually fine for printed things, though you may get unpleasant moire
05:26 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex 600dpi is minimum reasonable for photograph prints
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Height (mm)? 263
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Page 1 finished, press enter to continue with next page...
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Project name? wittegems
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 Width (mm)? 196
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 [occupy@edge13 scan]$ python test.py
05:27 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :)
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 seems script works as intended
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and well... the 300 scan looks very very nice
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex link?
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 still uploading :P
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 my upload is slow now that I no longer have fiber
05:29 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex heh ok
05:29 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I upload by mailing hard drives to internet archive.
05:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'm about to do.... a lot.
05:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 this reminds me of the pigeon transport thing :P
05:31 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 pigeons being faster than any internet connection
05:31 ๐Ÿ”— underscor hahaha
05:31 ๐Ÿ”— underscor yup
05:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
05:32 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 maybe I should've compressed before uploading.
05:37 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 chronomex: this is at 400 DPI: http://haless.cryto.net/wittegems.png
05:37 ๐Ÿ”— Sue so big
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 :P
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— Sue that took like 30 seconds to load
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 20+MB
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— Sue that looks pretty good though
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin looks like it gets all the detail
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it is - I'm very pleased with this scanner
05:38 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 although it's a bit slow
05:39 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's one of those Canon LiDe scanners
05:39 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 that uses LEDs for lighting
05:39 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 and is USB-powered entirely
05:39 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 most of all, it works on Linux without a hitch (unless you're using Fedora, then you have to install extra packages, because Fedora)
05:40 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 this is at 300 DPI: http://haless.cryto.net/wittegems_300.png
05:40 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 same cover
05:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex some moire at 400
05:43 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex 300 looks better actually
05:44 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex it was probably printed at 150lpi, so 300dpi is perfect
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 yeah, I think I agree
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I mean
05:45 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex you won't be able to see if one of the dots is missing
05:51 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?47086a5a6ab3c206#Env48QWFvh38/LXFlo9Wnrq7HAjkiPCDAjkd9lFewgg=
06:00 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex nice
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 hrm
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 chronomex: finished scanning it
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 450 MB of files lol
06:57 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 what compression algorithm would you suggest for PNGs of a comic book?
06:58 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 cc Sue DFJustin underscor
07:01 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex um
07:01 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex tiff with lossless compression
07:01 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex upload to archive.org
07:01 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex download the jpeg full-book-zip
07:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 right, it's PNG now though
07:10 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 any way to mass-convert?
07:11 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 @ chronomex
07:15 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex shellscript + 'convert $P.png $P.tif' or whatever
07:15 ๐Ÿ”— * joepie91 sucks at bash :(
07:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, aren't there particular options I need to use for the TIFF
07:15 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 for compression etc
07:16 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex yeah probably
07:16 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex 1sec
07:16 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex meh
07:22 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ok, I really have no idea where to start and the man page for convert gives me a headache ._.
07:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 chronomex: do you know off the top of your head how to throw a bunch of PNGs into a multipage TIFF with lossless compression? (just found out that multipage tiff is possible in the first place :P)
07:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 using convert, or imagemagick, or something else commandline
07:23 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 like, the switches you need for it
07:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ah, convert is part of imagemagick
07:27 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yes.
07:29 ๐Ÿ”— Sue november is lets whatever file something month?
07:29 ๐Ÿ”— Sue i wanna join, that's my birthday month
07:30 ๐Ÿ”— Sue *lets just solve the problem *file formats
07:31 ๐Ÿ”— Sue s/lets/let's/g
07:36 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Get in #justsolve
07:40 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 okay, my laptop is about to cry
07:40 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 there we go lol
07:42 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 09:42:07 up 38 days, 19:41, 3 users, load average: 7.41, 4.01, 3.54
07:42 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ;_;
07:43 ๐Ÿ”— Sue 12:43AM up 85 days, 13:10, 2 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.02
07:44 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 lol
07:44 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 the TIFF is already 332M
07:44 ๐Ÿ”— Sue oh god
07:44 ๐Ÿ”— Sue did you compress it?
07:45 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 yes, ZIP
07:46 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 it's done
07:46 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 484M
07:50 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, where to put it now? :P
07:51 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 ohai Aranje
07:52 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 SketchCow: where would one leave a scanned comic book considering it's probably still copyrighted?
07:55 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Torrent site.
07:55 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 fair enough
07:55 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 anyway, that's for tomorrow, time to sleep now
07:55 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 goodnight all
07:56 ๐Ÿ”— Sue by the way SketchCow, thank you for writing Datapocalypso! รขย€ย” January 5, 2009
07:57 ๐Ÿ”— Sue i remember reading that in 2009 and thinking how cool that was
08:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow No problem.
08:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I write things that get people going.
08:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow This new website will be full of that.
08:10 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax Sounds fun. Maybe I can write something for it
14:01 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin joepie91/chronomex umm there's not really any point in converting png to tiff, archive.org understands both and the compression won't be any better
19:06 ๐Ÿ”— Sue arkhive: did you get that osborne running?
19:07 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive Sue: ooops. I meant to put it in A for the video. It does not work in either one. and when I press 'return' it always tries to use drive B
19:08 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive nope :(
19:14 ๐Ÿ”— Sue ok, at least you tried A; that comment on the video isn't me
19:14 ๐Ÿ”— Sue sounds like a dead drive then, or maybe a dirty one
19:54 ๐Ÿ”— arkhive heh. nice comment. whoever that was
20:01 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe mmm
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe and yet another news item to show the general public why url shorteners are evil: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/10/21/0720241/spammers-using-shortened-gov-urls
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor And open-url redirectors
20:02 ๐Ÿ”— underscor er, move the hyphen to the right
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe " I mean, a script with the ability to redirect to anything a user inputs, that just doesn't make any sense whatsoever."
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe there is one use... if done a certain way, it can cause the browser to lose the referer.
20:06 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe and even if done another way, the referer just shows the redirect page, rather than the actual page
20:07 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I don't know why a government site would need it, but if you were doing something like a hidden section of a site with direct downloads or torrents of tv show episodes and wanted to link to episode details on another site...
20:08 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Yeah
20:08 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Lots of private trackers use anonym.to
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin ah I got one of those spams the other day, mystery solved
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex joepie91: ia deriver doesn't like multipage tiff, iirc.
21:22 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin SketchCow: I grabbed a big pile of amiga book pdfs off a site recently
21:22 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin haven't gotten around to archive.org-ing them yet
21:22 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Excellent.
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin but some of the same books that french guy has (not all though)
22:07 ๐Ÿ”— godane DFJustin: where did you get the amiga books
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 chronomex: probably can't upload it to IA anyway
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 because copyrighted still :P
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex doesn't matter!
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Yep, that stops us right dead
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow We just drop that shit into the burn barrel and look around for piano rolls from the 1860s
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex lol
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin http://www.diystash.com/downloads/other/amiga
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin I got all the "ebooks" folder and started on "manuals"
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin but they only let you download like 10 a day or something

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