[05:42] hey look, it's a photo of SketchCow giving a girl a tattoo: http://www.azcentral.com/business/news/articles/2010/07/13/20100713tattoo-industry-trends.html [05:50] SketchCow's evil twin [05:50] with gauges [06:27] Tattoos. SO NOT MY THING. [06:45] SketchCow has a floppy disk tattooed on his right buttcheck [06:45] ...buttcheek [08:48] * SmileyG_ ponders sarcasm [08:48] Tattoo, permenant record of... something.... not his thing? [08:49] http://www.postimees.ee/ !! [08:49] I made the front page [08:49] of a newspaper I've never heard of [08:49] I broke a tb! \o/ [08:50] too much javascript, can't see "front page" of paper [08:50] heh, no worries [08:51] it's an estonian-language article about http://numbertron.com and how I am infringing on all estonians' rights to not have a phone number or something [08:52] lol [08:53] meanwhile I'm doing some long-overdue rework to make the site about 100x faster [08:54] because it's kind of crumbling under the unexpected 200x load [08:56] D: [08:56] i'm currently attempting to plan the migration of the chairmans email account to our new server [08:56] except after my boss going "don't worry, it'll be small as hes on pop3" I find its at least 8Gb :/ [08:57] o_O [08:59] chronomex: You do realize that just because something is not copyrighted in the US, it can still be under copyright in other countries? [09:00] I'm aware of this [09:01] it sounds like you have more to say, do tell [09:03] Nah, I just wanted to make sure you know. I recently noticed that not all pictures are migrated to Wikimedia Commons for that reason. In Germany company logos are not copyrightable, so they can be displayed on German wikipedia pages only [09:08] hmm interesting [09:08] my theory is that I can't be in trouble for laws that don't apply in any jurisdiction where I live [09:09] *sigh* I wish I had a little more warning, have a half hour downtime while upgrading my linode to handle the stupid logs [09:12] Estonian slashdot effect [09:12] v_v [09:12] heh [09:16] so glad I have a fresh hot spare at home on an ssd to do the clustering jobs I need to do in reworking the site [09:17] I suppose my spidey senses tingled yesterday [09:29] well that's nice, linode estimated the migrate would take 38 minutes but it was only 20 [11:36] Archivers! [11:36] Does anyone have a script which grabs all the podcasts from a bbc page? I know it was spoken about before.... [11:37] Theres one I want in perticular... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00snr0w/episodes/guide [14:38] i'm uploading g4 e3 live day 1 of 2009 [14:39] the video bitrate is 1300+kbps [14:39] for about just over 1 hour of video [15:08] http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdg63iqTL81qkmqyho1_400.gif [15:11] lol [15:26] Archive Team members [15:48] i'm doing a grab of slax.org forums [15:48] 82665 posts that i'm archiving [15:49] its going to be close to 400mb or just over 400mb when done [15:52] i had to use --no-cookies to stop getting 400 bad request errors [15:52] Thank you. [16:00] i have to back it up cause in a few weeks the site may change [16:01] also there will be a wget.log file [17:09] http://falkvinge.net/2012/11/15/we-should-be-spending-billions-fighting-bathtubs-not-terrorism/ [17:49] Fun fact [17:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HsIBqZGFIQ is the single most expensive animation, cost per second [17:57] Makes me wonder how much total money ended up going into The Thief and the Cobbler by the end of production. [18:00] Not as much as you'd think. [18:00] $28 million for the entire thing above board, probably $4-5million under the rug. [18:01] Compare with Roger Rabbit being $70 million (1988 dollars!) [18:02] I know wayyyyyyyy too much about this subject. [18:02] I paid into a kickstarter for a documentary on Thief and Cobbler. [18:02] It's called "Persistence of Vision" and it's out in film festivals. [18:02] I got to see the rough cut at the director's college, where I happen to live near. It was great. [18:03] The critical part, the specific sequence worth noting, is that it's a pet project for williams from 1971 to 1989. [18:03] In 1988, Roger Rabbit's amazing flaming success means Hollywood Money is interested in him. [18:03] So he gets, like $25 million. [18:03] He blows it. Biiiiiiiiig time. [18:03] BIG TIME [18:03] And it got taken from him. [18:04] I.e. he HAD the funding, he HAD the backing, he HAD creative control, he totally choked [18:07] I'd be really interested in seeing that documentary and their take on it. I've only read about it. [18:08] http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/doc-nyc-review-persistence-of-vision-is-a-heartbreaking-account-of-a-thwarted-animated-masterpiece-20121109 [18:08] Thanks! [18:08] I'd also heard that there was an alternate rescue proposal, which wasn't taken up, which would have brought in Terry Gilliam to assist on finishing. [18:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7vNxGpa7E&feature=related Is what you should watch. [18:10] This is someone spending YEARS, rebuilding the original. [18:10] I can't remember which version I saw. [18:10] I think it was mkII or mkIII. [18:10] Yeah, this is III [18:11] I watched it just before the guy tracked down a 35mm workprint with some scenes he only had from the old umatic bootleg, so I rewatched one or two of those scenes. So maybe I saw mkII? [18:12] Yeah, he would combine with Workprint [18:12] are there any umatic players out there at all? [18:12] Damn, I should eat something today, huh. [18:13] Yes, there are. [18:13] There aren't a ton, but there are some. [18:13] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/G4.E3.09.Live.Day.1.DSR.XviD-SYS [18:13] I mean, I've never seen one "in the wild" myself [18:13] You mostly have to rent them, that's how I got my umatics clicked over [18:13] Food is usually a good thing [18:13] seems they show up on ebay [18:14] http://album.cow.net/index.cgi?d=1992.BLESSED was all on Umatic tape [18:14] This is reminding me that I still need to transfer those LDs I've been meaning to... [18:14] It's my unreleased first student film [18:14] And also figure out where my desync problem is coming from. [18:16] are museums/archives legally allowed to charge "use fees" above and beyond copyright-related license fees for reuse of materials? [18:16] lately in my digging I've seen some of this [18:16] OK, so. [18:16] jason wearing glasses: http://album.cow.net/1992.BLESSED/.lowres/cafescene3.jpg [18:17] The answer is yes [18:17] The question is "does this make you look like an asshole": yes [18:17] The other question is "are there a lot of assholes in museums/archives" and the answer is "so totally yes" [18:17] the PA state archives have quite heavy "use fees"... [18:18] * mistym facepalms *so hard* every time the question of "should we let artists/historians/whoever do stuff with our public domain material" comes up on archives mailing lists [18:18] it seems a lot of museums/archives do that [18:18] i have allmost 47000 posts from slitaz.org [18:18] OK, so see, there are two situations here: [18:18] :-D [18:18] a) Many museums/archives are perpetually underfunded. So they try to get extra income wherever they can to keep the doors open, to pay people to catalogue materials, etc. [18:19] And b) Many museums/archives are very protective of their materials. For a lot of people that goes beyond "is the stuff preserved" into "MAKE SURE NO ONE INTERPRETS IT WRONG" [18:19] b) is the bigger problem :/ [18:20] Which is kind of ironic because archives at least make a claim that we aren't interpreting stuff for people. But many archives still want to make sure that no one "uses it wrong" [18:20] what do they consider "using it wrong"? [18:21] Maybe they misattributed it, or didn't say where they got it from. Maybe they interpreted it outside its historical context. Or what the archivist thinks its historical context should be. [18:21] I know museums/archives want attribution, but it should by no means be required [18:21] (That many archives also wonder how we can get people to be interested in our stuff, while actively turning away people who want to do things with our stuff, is a disconnect many archivists don't seem to be getting.) [18:22] *sigh* yeah [18:22] they make accessibility onerous, and no one shows up or gives them anything [18:25] pirate movies on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/pirates118?feature=watch [18:25] a channel just for them [18:25] also full who frame'd roger rabbit [18:26] balrog: Yeah... I dunno. I love working in archives and I hope archives can be fixed but sometimes I kind of wonder a little [18:53] I wouldn't mind donating a few bucks, as a way of saying thanks, afterwards. [18:53] I do not like to pay up to get access, though. That usually makes me uninterested [19:48] shit on toast [19:49] looks like readwrite.com was not archived at all [19:53] looks like it blocked heritrix: http://readwrite.com/robots.txt [19:54] it didn't blocked ia_archiver bot [19:56] I wonder if it would be at all possible to archive the files on vetusware.com [19:56] the problem is their download limitations [20:37] godane: Did they actually remove old content, or just switched around the interface? [20:54] don't know [20:54] will be archiving it later [21:47] http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/305515_305864609528845_1283645395_n.png [21:51] MATH! [21:51] ARGH, MY ONLY WEAKNESS! [21:51] * ersi melts [21:59] haha [22:06] day 3 of live coverage of g4 e3 is uploaded now: http://archive.org/details/G4.E3.09.Live.Day.3.DSR.XviD-SYS [22:07] people are going to love me for get this [22:07] your place in archivist heaven is assured [22:09] chronomex: i also have 18 months of x-play too [22:09] i just hope it doesn't go dark [22:10] i only planning on uploading stuff that over 1 year old with g4 videos [22:11] this makes it less likely needing to be darked [22:37] http://archive.org/details/Andrew_Loomis_Creative.Illustration pretty [22:37] http://archive.org/stream/Andrew_Loomis_Successful_Drawing as well [22:48] didn't I already upload those [22:48] https://archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-creative-illustration http://www.archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-successful-drawing [22:53] also http://www.archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-drawing-the-head-hands http://www.archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-eye-of-the-painter http://www.archive.org/details/loomis_FIGURE_draw http://www.archive.org/details/andrew-loomis-fun-with-a-pencil [22:53] You likely did. [22:54] I was dumping them off my backlog. [22:54] Likely one will lose. [22:54] :) [22:54] the fun with a pencil one is a shitty version though [22:54] like all those duplicate videos on youtube [22:54] they can just sit there, hurting nobody [22:54] A more pressing thing was that I had to noindex all the stage6 videos [22:54] So they're all THERE, but not really browsable [22:54] at least with IA you don't get the fifth-generation VHS effect that youtube duplicates have [22:55] true [22:55] I'd like to dump out the item names for all the videos, and set up a browse-and-vote system for us to go through them and decide which are set to public-a-ble [22:56] Relatively pressing, I guess I should say. [22:57] I'm not familiar with the context, why is this necessary? [22:58] leaving it as-is meant the top 5 web items on IA are rihanna music videos and other assorted copyright infringement which gives some people aneurysms [22:59] pretty much. [22:59] it got my bosses' attention, which is notable. [23:00] but where will we get our "space mutany" https://archive.org/details/stage6-2054541 [23:04] ah [23:05] mutany! [23:05] on the plus side the new #1 web item is 30gb of anime porn so there's that [23:27] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/G4.E3.09.Live.Microsoft.Spotlight.READNFO.DSR.XviD-SYS [23:30] i'm uploading the live nintendo and sony spotlight of g4 e3 coverage [23:51] this one definitely belongs in -bs: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/how-goatse-cx-went-from-shock-site-to-webmail-service/