#archiveteam-bs 2012-12-11,Tue

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05:29 🔗 shaqfu Well, looks like I'm going to Moving Image this weekend
05:29 🔗 shaqfu (hopefully Dead Drop is still working as well)
06:20 🔗 Sue does anyone have joepie's quickstart script? i can't remember what python deps to pull in
06:35 🔗 Sue (i can't remember) whoever was in charge of the tracker, sorry if "Sue" is pulling and failing, there's something wrong with my wget
06:40 🔗 Sue fixed it
07:50 🔗 chronomex the 1980s were a beautiful time http://archive.org/stream/crash-magazine-57/Crash_57_Oct_1988#page/n1/mode/2up
07:51 🔗 chronomex also apparently the deriver has an auto-straightening feature http://archive.org/stream/crash-magazine-57/Crash_57_Oct_1988#page/n9/mode/2up
07:53 🔗 shaqfu Oh man, 80's spaceships
07:57 🔗 chronomex I got a gigantic monitor in the mail today and so I'm putting it through its paces
07:57 🔗 chronomex I haven't had this many pixels before
07:57 🔗 chronomex I think I crapped my pants a little when I opened up google maps
09:05 🔗 chronomex oh man this crt emulation stuff is sexy
09:05 🔗 chronomex just got around to watching the videos
09:08 🔗 norbert79 on the request of ersi: For your daily retro computing: http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
09:09 🔗 ersi \o/
09:11 🔗 norbert79 THis guy is mad though
09:11 🔗 norbert79 http://www.masswerk.at/products.html
09:12 🔗 norbert79 Crazy how much stuff he created and all very geeky
09:12 🔗 norbert79 Worth saving this page for ever
09:13 🔗 norbert79 NO WAY
09:13 🔗 norbert79 http://e-tradition.net/bytes/virtualunivac/index.html
09:13 🔗 norbert79 This guy is just fricking cool
09:20 🔗 ersi cool
09:21 🔗 ersi yeah, for sure
10:00 🔗 SmileyG :O
10:13 🔗 norbert79 Silly question, but
10:13 🔗 norbert79 does anyone anywhere seen
10:14 🔗 norbert79 any old MOTD banners, mostly from the 90's?
10:14 🔗 norbert79 I mean even if those are old UUnet messages, or anything
10:15 🔗 norbert79 I am trying to collect such and I was lucky with takedown.com. Telnet recordings of Mitnick offered lot of interesting things
10:15 🔗 norbert79 but I could only gather 4 of those
10:15 🔗 norbert79 well, netcom, lexis...
10:15 🔗 norbert79 would be nice having more
10:16 🔗 norbert79 I guess the question is very specific :)
10:23 🔗 SmileyG I can give you my servers ? :D
10:23 🔗 SmileyG its a cow :D
10:24 🔗 norbert79 Actually I am trying to use old and original MOTD banners for the telehack.com game
10:24 🔗 norbert79 it's just a tiny addon, but would add to the mood
10:24 🔗 norbert79 Actually the game is based on Jason's work
10:24 🔗 norbert79 as the content is from textfiles.com
10:25 🔗 norbert79 so it would be nice if the banners would come from the 80's, 90's
11:45 🔗 ersi The IA donate URL is on the front page of HN \o/
11:46 🔗 ersi and going upwards
11:51 🔗 SmileyG hn?>
11:53 🔗 ersi "Hacker News", a social news kind of votery circlejerk club found at http://news.ycombinator.com
11:53 🔗 ersi mostly wannabe entreneurs and "Growth Hackers"
11:54 🔗 SmileyG lol
14:51 🔗 joepie91 ersi: the hipsters of hackers
14:53 🔗 ersi Thanks for reiterating what I just said. It's totally generally awesome
15:16 🔗 Sue|phone Joepie91: openvz whyyy D:
15:24 🔗 joepie91 Sue|phone: hmm? :P
15:25 🔗 Sue|phone Stalking you on twitter
15:26 🔗 Sue|phone I prefer kvm
15:28 🔗 joepie91 haha
15:28 🔗 joepie91 openvz *can* be okay, depending on how it's used
15:28 🔗 joepie91 anyway
15:29 🔗 joepie91 I'm writing a VPS panel that supports openvz initially
15:29 🔗 joepie91 kvm and xen afterwards
15:29 🔗 joepie91 so having a sane networking setup is sort of a requirement
15:29 🔗 joepie91 and I'm trying to figure out what the catch of veth is
15:29 🔗 joepie91 because if it's so much better like I think it is, then why does none of the panels implement it?
15:29 🔗 Sue|phone Ooh
15:30 🔗 Sue|phone So here's the deal with veth and virtio
15:30 🔗 ersi openvz is usually used on the crappiest of hosts - which oversell too much
15:30 🔗 Sue|phone Only certain versions of Linux after kernel 2.6.26
15:30 🔗 ersi which doesn't exactly help it's reputation :)
15:31 🔗 Sue|phone Support veth/virtio, and rhel5 is 2.6.16
15:32 🔗 Sue|phone So because everyone still uses rhel5, and openvz and xen use the host kernel as a container, that's why veth/ virtio isn't supported
15:33 🔗 underscor Other than that, virtio is amazing
15:33 🔗 underscor We use it at IA
15:33 🔗 Sue|phone Flying penis says hi, I'm in his kitchen
15:33 🔗 Sue|phone (Aranje)
15:34 🔗 ersi Who's still using RHEL5?
15:34 🔗 underscor oh cool
15:34 🔗 underscor tell him hi
15:35 🔗 Sue|phone Random people still use it, and red hat won't back port veth drivers
15:35 🔗 norbert79 joepie91: Not much a coding, but I did this today: http://pastebin.com/q8cUzc3f and http://pastebin.com/xdxHTEZb
15:35 🔗 Sue|phone Random people being people who care not enough to use control panels
15:35 🔗 Sue|phone And I mean cheap hosts
15:35 🔗 joepie91 <Sue|phone>Flying penis says hi, I'm in his kitchen
15:36 🔗 joepie91 !
15:36 🔗 joepie91 say hi back :D
15:36 🔗 * joepie91 reads backlog
15:36 🔗 joepie91 <Sue|phone>So because everyone still uses rhel5, and openvz and xen use the host kernel as a container, that's why veth/ virtio isn't supported
15:36 🔗 joepie91 that is actually the first sane explanation I've heard
15:36 🔗 joepie91 thanks :P
15:36 🔗 joepie91 any idea if debian openvz kernel does veth?
15:36 🔗 joepie91 .32
15:36 🔗 joepie91 doesn't have vswap though
15:37 🔗 joepie91 norbert79: opensim server management?
15:37 🔗 Sue|phone Not sure, Debian 7 might
15:37 🔗 joepie91 well, no
15:37 🔗 joepie91 not if 6 doesn't have it
15:38 🔗 joepie91 debian openvz kernel is a bit strange
15:38 🔗 Sue|phone Yeah
15:38 🔗 joepie91 their kernel is technically recent (.32), but doesn't include vswap
15:38 🔗 joepie91 and you need a RHEL kernel to enable it
15:38 🔗 joepie91 (possible, but messy)
15:38 🔗 norbert79 joepie91: Yes
15:38 🔗 joepie91 I just don't know if the same policy goes for veth
15:38 🔗 norbert79 joepie91: A friend of mine asked having it running, but I was not satisfied running it manually after each rebopot
15:38 🔗 joepie91 thing is, future versions of the debian openvz kernel also won't include vswap as far as I am aware
15:38 🔗 joepie91 norbert79: understandable :)
15:39 🔗 norbert79 joepie91: It's a bit dirty, but works relatively ok
15:39 🔗 norbert79 joepie91: The friend asked for tmux, so it uses it
15:39 🔗 joepie91 norbert79: you may find this interesting
15:39 🔗 joepie91 http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
15:40 🔗 norbert79 Nice... The issue with this bit of code was, that it automatically starts dumping into the main screen
15:40 🔗 norbert79 so I had to solve that
15:40 🔗 norbert79 tmux helps there
16:03 🔗 SmileyG we have a RHEL4 box here somewhere
16:03 🔗 SmileyG I saw it once.
16:04 🔗 SmileyG Was like "Did that just say..." and then my collegue was like "Shusssh, its ok".
16:05 🔗 ersi shrug
16:09 🔗 underscor SmileyG: haha
16:09 🔗 SmileyG http://imgur.com/7EFky
16:10 🔗 joepie91 haha SmileyG
16:10 🔗 joepie91 it can be worse though
16:10 🔗 joepie91 I had someone tell me yesterday that "he accidentally installed debian 4 on his VPS"
16:11 🔗 joepie91 and I was like "what WHY THE FUCK DO THEY EVEN HAVE THAT AS TEMPLATE"
16:13 🔗 Sue oh the phone died
16:13 🔗 Sue lol

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