[02:08] the register has an interesting series on OS/2 from a contract bug hunter who worked with IBM on it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/23/why_os2_failed_part_one/ [02:08] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/26/os2_final_fail/ [02:19] http://boingboing.net/2013/02/01/now-is-a-good-time-to-re-set-y.html [02:19] twitter got haxxed [02:22] SketchCow: do i have direct admin for my collection yet? [02:25] so, I wasn't important enough to get hacked- that's good news [02:27] heh [02:30] That was pretty much my reaction - though just a little disapointed [02:55] http://arstechnica.com/staff/2013/02/ebay-fraud-and-me-the-sequel-a-pathetic-end-to-the-debacle/ morale of the story: ebay UK sucks a lot (possibly more than ebay US) [02:56] you may have seen ebay fraud stories before, but this story starts off much different than the normal one [03:54] looks like there is press conferces from ces 2009 [03:54] on g4tv.com [12:08] dashcloud: that was a nice read [12:09] too bad I don't have the original OS/2 discs left :( [16:32] so here's a situation i'm in [16:32] there's a certain polish imageboard that was pulled down by the owner in mid-November [16:32] I hosted a mirror because I missed the place due to its specific, nice atmosphere [16:32] and today the owner comes shouting at me to remove the data or send me to abuse [16:33] there was no rule on the website not to mirror it, in fact, there was no T&C at all [16:33] what should i do? [16:34] the reason for taking it down continues to be unknown, too [16:37] I'd tell him to shove it [16:37] personally [16:37] But dunno, put it up on some other host and tell him you put yours down? [16:37] I put mine down [16:37] Considering putting it up on torrent [16:37] it's just 3.7GB [16:38] Oh, you should definately do that [16:38] Right now the mirror page (I even bought the original domain when it expired) has a quote of what he said to me [16:38] as he used quite harsh words [16:39] and a comment "It's sad some people can't respect history." [16:45] asiekierk: _legally_ things are copyrighted implicitely, you cannot take other people's things [16:45] technically, yes, but i still don't understand his motives [16:45] his site, he can do whatever he wants [16:46] so put it on archive.org or soemthing ;) [16:46] i just made a .torrent file [16:46] torrents are shortlived [16:46] and i'm also going to upload it to archive.org [16:46] what format? zip, 7zip? [16:47] Schbirid: It was an imageboard, that usually consists of mostly copyrighted images which none of the posters have copyright shitcakes for [16:47] 7z is great for mostly text [16:48] ersi: And it's noted all the images and content the user is responsible for [16:48] As well as that it was for a copyrighted TV show [16:48] ersi: i was just trying to reply to the "there was no rule on the website not to mirror it, in fact, there was no T&C at all" [16:48] yeah, just.. commented Schbirid's blah [16:48] well, it's just ironic and highly comical that a dweeb running an imageboard claim copyright and ownership - so fuck ihm [16:49] fuck'em and torrent/upload it :) [16:49] zipping [16:49] my server's on an SSD so it should be quick [16:49] works :] [16:50] Pfft, make a WARC out of it. [16:51] how do I do that? [16:51] don't worry about it, just upload the zip [16:51] a warc is more than just a bunch of files, you cannot really create that afterwards [16:51] also the dump is slightly borked, some files should be moved from art.11 -> art/index.html [16:51] True. [16:51] but it's important I get this out now [16:51] Well, you can - but it's pretty pointless [16:51] yeah [16:51] * GLaDOS is just the archiving noob here [16:51] asiekierk: Don't worry, it'll be just fine [16:52] i was dumping it the night before it closed so i didn't have much time to learn the ways [16:52] Some is always better than none [16:52] it's mostly the complete site really, the few things missing is working search (obviously), working posting (obviously) and the art.11 <- art/index.html issue [16:52] which is a direct result of the fact I reran httrack (while skipping identical files) 11 times up until the moment it died [16:53] or was it wget... i don't even remember [16:53] it's compressing [16:53] considering making a light version of the mirror too [16:53] with thumbnails only [16:54] as the images are, like, 90% of the size [16:54] For the record and future; If you do use wget, the latest one (version 1.14) have support for WARC (Web ARChive), which is a great format for archiving web pages. It's pretty simple to use with wget as well (Just pass on --warc-file="name") [16:54] right. [16:54] It'll save HTTP Headers and everythang [16:54] yeah [16:54] sad i didn't do that, but oh well [16:54] something is better than nothing [16:54] Indeedily [16:55] Easily better. [16:55] good to know in case i need to close down one of my sites, though [16:55] will probably make sure to WARC it up before i close it [16:55] Yeah :) [16:55] while it's zipping (had to do it again as i did a thing wrong) lemme see what the guy originally said, translated from Polish to English [16:55] "fucking listen" [16:55] The bestest thing about WARC, is that it's from the Internet Archive amongst others - and their tools eat WARC's for breakfast. So it's easy to shove it into, for example, the Wayback Machine [16:56] "i give you time till the end of the day to get my data away from your fucking server" [16:56] "otherwise i'm writing to abuse today" [16:56] Should've passed it over to mine.. [16:57] GLaDOS: well, do it, the ZIP will be up in a few minutes [16:57] i can even redirect the domain for you [16:57] as I own the domain it was originally on, catched it [16:57] Heh [16:57] the problem with trying to exert the copyright is, well, this: [16:57] 1. the images are mostly copyrighted/stolen content [16:57] 2. the discussions themselves talk about copyrighted content [16:57] 3. the skins are also based on copyrighted content [16:57] 4. the only thing that isn't is the engine, and i don't have 90% of it (the server side) [16:57] Add a weak password to it. [16:58] GLaDOS: ... [16:58] okay, re-running zip [16:58] two wrong make no right, he would still have legal leverage (just saying!) [16:58] As in [16:58] The site [16:58] Schbirid: technically we'd both be screwed [16:58] depends on your legal system [16:58] Poland. [16:58] Poland. [16:58] read: nobody cares [16:58] IANAL [16:58] unless you play with the government [16:58] it's true [16:58] :) [17:00] Whereas, Romania.. [17:00] decided to use 7zip instead [17:00] Hm, should check that. [17:00] >Romania [17:00] oh, you shouldn't have anything to worry about [17:00] Hehehe [17:03] 12% compressing [17:04] 18%... will take a while with 7zip [17:22] 94% [17:24] okaj [17:24] okay* [17:24] 7z made [17:24] What was the domain name? [17:24] http://kucyki.org/ [17:24] 3.05GB [17:25] Bring it on! [17:37] aiui generally the copyright belongs to the person who posted them, not to the person who owns the imageboard [17:37] (not a lawyer) [17:38] balrog: It does on that imageboard to [17:38] as stated in the footer [17:39] uploading to archive.org via FTP, 20-30 minutes left [17:46] Might see if I can reintegrate the content into an imageboard software again.. [17:54] GLaDOS: nah, don't do that [17:54] it's historical reasons only [17:54] if I wanted to do it i would do it on my own Polish pony imageboard [17:54] Eh, true. [17:54] just keep it up [17:54] anyway, added you to the global list @ kucyki.org [17:56] Ok! [17:58] Need to replace the analytic code with my own, or remove it. [17:58] hm [18:00] Eh, later, too tired. [18:50] turnkit: i forgot, do you still want that script?