#archiveteam-bs 2013-04-13,Sat

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00:03 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ A retarded lawyer finally has to pay up - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/the-madness-ends-lawyer-charles-carreon-to-pay-46100/
00:14 ๐Ÿ”— jk[SVP] yow, http://blog.linode.com/2013/04/12/security-notice-linode-manager-password-reset/
02:39 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ So I am thinking about getting one of these http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/83-14015.jpg
02:40 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Normal cases still seem too cramped
02:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Why can't most cases just add 2 more inches of space between the front drive bays and the motherboard.
02:44 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje pretty sure those are usually "full tower" cases not your usual "mid tower" cases
02:45 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje the full tower I used to have had so much space in it it was unreal
02:45 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje none of this harddrive-wires-almost-in-the-gpu bullshit
02:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I used have a nice full tower that I mounted wheels on the bottom
02:45 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I feel ya
02:46 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje it also had a radiator on top
02:46 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje it was only badly designed in that they used 90mm fans instead of 120 so it was unnecessarily loud
02:46 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje could have fit 120's
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I got an antec 900 case as a gift and I have enjoyed it for years but now having to put hot swap bays in I wish I was full tower
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ 19.4รขย€ย (H) x 8.1รขย€ย (W) x 18.4รขย€ย (D)
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ The full tower model - 22.9" (H) x 8.4" (W) x 20.2" (D)
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I have the three hundred I think?
02:47 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and there almost 2 inches more depth
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje yeah it's the 300
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I love it, but it wasn't ever meant to have a gaming gpu in it
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje circumstances demanded it, not intent
02:48 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje :/
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ yeah this is small 18.0" (H) x 8.1" (W) x 18.3" (D)
02:49 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje It's great... but gpu's are so huge now
02:56 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ It looks like I would have to drop at least $100
02:56 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ That can wait
02:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ nothing on craigslist locally either
02:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I never should have switched from using full towers
03:02 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Well my server just died
03:03 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I powered it off, cleaned it, installed the new hardware and now it will not stay powered on. Does not even reach the bios screen. Took hardware out for a minimal boot and still fucked
03:03 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ another pain in my ass
03:06 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ This server is only like 4 years old
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ So I installed my 4bay hot swap in my dev machine
04:42 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ That server is toast. It powers up and then resets itself after a while
04:50 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Anyone own a motherboard with more than 5 built in sata connectors?
04:51 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I normally build a new development machine every two years to stay abreast of where things are going. Ever since quad core hit the desktop I have slowed my upgrade cycle.
04:51 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ The last update was a bump from 8gb DDR3 to 16gb DDR3
04:51 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ and I know the next major tech thing is switching to SSD for my operating system and home dir
04:53 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ What are the rest of you rocking?
05:07 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ You around GLaDOS?
05:08 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS I am
05:09 ๐Ÿ”— GLaDOS password reset, let me guess?
09:15 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley omf_: yes mine has 6.
09:15 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley or 8
09:15 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley i forget
09:16 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley description: Motherboard
09:16 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley product: Crosshair IV Formula
09:16 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
10:49 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm uploading last chance to see cds
11:48 ๐Ÿ”— godane uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Last_Chance_To_See_CDs
16:08 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ gooooood morning vietnam
16:56 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Remove all the space within the atoms making up the human body, and every person that's ever lived would fit inside a baseball.
17:55 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley they'd also be dead
17:55 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley \o/
17:56 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley omf_: you see my message about 6 internal sata?
17:56 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ yep
17:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I need system with 6
17:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I use 4 for the 4 bay hot swap, 1 for the internal hd
17:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Actually I don't need it. I can just make my burner external
17:58 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley hmmmm i said wrong one it seems
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I got like 280 minutes left on my initial RAID-1 sync
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ which I then format over and copy files on
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley ok firefox is gonna make me rage again
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley try
17:59 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley product: M2N68-AM Plus
18:00 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley May have 6 or 8
18:00 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I am used to doing RAID-5 on the system build and walking away while shit is built and software installed.
18:01 ๐Ÿ”— Smiley nod.
18:01 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ At least adding spares to a mirror can be a background process
18:04 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ I am watching this LibreOffice development talk and it is mind blowing the level of refactoring they have had to do
18:04 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ All the java wizards? Gone, written in python
18:05 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Unless the corporate overlords of Apache OpenOffice work really fucking hard, they will never catch up
18:06 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ The code base is two decades old. The whole focus of libreoffice development is to pay down all that technical as the primary goal. You want to build a new feature? You gotta fix a bunch of crap first
18:10 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Well, OpenOffice will be killed, it's just a matter of time.
18:10 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It's only laziness and unwillingness to run an installer that keeps anyone from switching to Libreoffice.
18:10 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It's a non-profit working on productivty software of a base dependency. It'd made no sense to stay with something controlled by Oracle.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ LibreOffice is going to win simply because they are adding new features and fixing the bugs. OO never fucking does releases.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Again.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow OO.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Owned by Oracle.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Open source free-priced software. Owned by Oracle.
18:12 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ Replace Owned with Fucked
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow You're saying "This puppy gets a lot of nice walkies and good food, nobody takes the puppy on mars out for walkies."
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The puppy. In mars. In the vacuum of space
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Focusing on the wrong thing.
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow The second Oracle bought Sun, a lot of things were dead.
18:13 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow They'll keep killing them. They're even killing free support for Solaris.
18:14 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I guarantee that Oracle will kill Solaris within 5 years.
18:14 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow And all mainframe-level hardware, possibly all hardware
18:16 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ See I don't understand that. For years Oracle was fighting Microsoft in every market and they always were getting into new markets to keep growing bigger. Now they just kill shit and it is not like they are going to gain all that market back with their Linux distro
19:06 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud so SketchCow, do you also think IBM-led version AOO (Apache Open Office) is also doomed to a slow death?
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— balrog SketchCow: and lack of awareness of LO
19:25 ๐Ÿ”— balrog OO has a lot of name recognition :/
19:43 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje it seems to me that LO has a lot more going for it, except market entrenchment
19:45 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje I think it'll be a better project in the long run either way. THey fixed a bunch of shit and now 4.0 is basically "let's rewrite the whole codebase to suck less"
19:45 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje that alone will pay dividends in the next year
19:54 ๐Ÿ”— nooneyb what LibreOffice need is a new lighter version, kind of what Firefox (Phoenix) was for Mozilla
19:57 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ LO is already modular, you choose which applications to install.
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ cutting java out made the whole thing smaller and faster
19:58 ๐Ÿ”— omf_ The technical debt needs to be paid first. For example there used to be 4 string libraries, now there are 3 and soon only 2.
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— godane Konami FOX Engine Behind the Scenes E3 2011: https://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video53194
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— Aranje omf_:) that's what I'm excited about. The new leaner LO will be godly even if it adds no features.
22:13 ๐Ÿ”— godane TEST_stream_trim: https://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video53246

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