| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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06:46
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* |
underscor set up shop, unpacks bag |
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06:46
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underscor |
xD |
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06:46
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arrith1 |
underscor: hmm yeah keeping it as a delivery bot would be safer. somehow have some *big* cupholder to really keep the cup upright |
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06:46
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underscor |
haha |
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06:46
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underscor |
Ceiling conveyance system would work too |
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06:46
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arrith1 |
i was envisioning some kind of water jet that could dispense coffee but there are *too* many ways that could go wrong |
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06:47
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arrith1 |
hmm that's interesting. i wonder what kind of tracks you could do |
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06:47
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underscor |
I need to work on fixing up this automatic CD transport machine |
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06:48
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arrith1 |
did it break down? |
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06:48
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underscor |
but I have to wait for the archive to pay june's bill at the end of the month before I have money for assorted supplies |
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06:48
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underscor |
arrith1: was donated from a friend of SketchCow or something, controller was bad |
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06:48
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underscor |
want to replace it with an msp-430 or arduino or something |
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06:49
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underscor |
Or maybe a raspi with an external HD, and then it could be a combination disk transport AND save the media |
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06:49
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underscor |
instead of relying on an outside PC |
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06:50
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arrith1 |
yeah raspi sounds great. those things end up being full remote servers for 3d printers with webcams and all |
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06:50
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underscor |
yeah :D |
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06:51
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underscor |
I'm doing preliminary research/architecture for using a bank of them and SDRs to capture local talk radio |
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06:51
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|
underscor |
for the archive |
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06:51
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arrith1 |
i heard the 25$ (ish, plus shipping and whatnot) ones finally went on sale. i haven't tried to get one |
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06:51
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arrith1 |
ah neat |
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06:51
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|
underscor |
yeah :D |
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06:51
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underscor |
cause we already do TV |
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06:51
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|
underscor |
and radio is so much cheaper to store |
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06:51
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|
underscor |
and still useful |
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06:51
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|
underscor |
It would be cool to start an archive of public safety recordings too :D |
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06:52
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|
underscor |
Have volunteers around the country/world host a raspi and an SDR |
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06:52
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arrith1 |
hmm yeah. i know at least with wifi you can interact with a bunch of different channels at once, i wonder if you can 'listen' to a range of shows with a radio. i think they do something like that then break it up in software |
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06:52
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arrith1 |
underscor: oh yeah, little self-updating box that funnels it to IA |
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06:53
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underscor |
yeah, the DVB-T receivers I'm looking at can comfortably sample 2.4mhz |
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06:53
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arrith1 |
i bet the raspis can accept the data but in terms of crunching it i'm not sure |
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06:53
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arrith1 |
police scanners too maybe, though might be a legal gray area |
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06:53
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xmc |
pfff, it's radio |
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06:54
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|
underscor |
yeah |
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06:54
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|
underscor |
it's public safety radio |
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06:54
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|
underscor |
fuck them, it's for us. |
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06:54
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Aranje |
most interesting would be taking one with me camping, when I go visit the backwoods of montana |
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06:54
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Aranje |
make a something that can capture local shortwave |
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06:54
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|
underscor |
Friend has had a raspi and a sdr recording an archive of campus safety radio for a couple of months |
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06:55
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|
underscor |
It's so cool to be able to hear about an incident or see an ambulance/firetruck and go listen to exactly what happened |
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06:55
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|
underscor |
Aranje: Ooh, I wanna go camping in montana :D |
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06:55
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|
underscor |
Dounds fun |
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06:55
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underscor |
Sounds, even |
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06:55
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arrith1 |
that's neat. yeah i figure if a thing is basically unencrypted and not some person's private property deal then it should work |
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06:56
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arrith1 |
reminds me of historical notability stuff. like wikileaks did that 9/11 pager thing, historical goldmine right there |
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06:56
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Aranje |
underscor:) It's gorgeous, and there's nothing electronic for miles and miles, except shortwave radios the religious groups use |
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06:56
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|
godane |
so i may get you guys something rare again |
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06:56
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|
godane |
its Song of the South |
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06:56
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|
godane |
this is different in that the source maybe public domain |
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06:57
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arrith1 |
cool |
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06:57
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|
godane |
under japin copyright law though |
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06:58
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|
underscor |
godane: good thing IA is hosted in japan |
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06:58
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|
underscor |
;P |
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06:58
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|
underscor |
Aranje: That's cool :D |
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06:58
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|
underscor |
I bet stargazing is awesome |
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06:58
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godane |
we need a mirror in japan then |
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06:58
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Aranje |
underscor:) absolutely. there's a reason montana is "big sky country" |
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07:00
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arrith1 |
hm yeah there's that "light pollution" thing where telescopes don't work that well in cities, probably something similar for RF things |
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07:03
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Aranje |
yeah, you've got approximately none of that out there |
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07:03
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Aranje |
go sit up on top of hellroaring plateau and watch the stars spin by |
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07:03
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Aranje |
nothing like it |
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07:03
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|
underscor |
That's awesome! |
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07:03
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Aranje |
(google the name, it's on the map) |
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07:03
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|
underscor |
I'd love to bring out some photo equipment for lapses too |
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07:03
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Aranje |
oh yeah. |
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07:04
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Aranje |
I would join you for that |
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07:04
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Aranje |
:P |
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07:04
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|
underscor |
I have a good friend who lives/works at an observatory in new mexico |
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07:04
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|
underscor |
Lives at the observatory because the nearest town is ~20 miles away, and is pop 6 |
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07:04
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|
underscor |
haha |
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07:04
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|
underscor |
but there is *no* light |
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07:04
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Aranje |
Yeah. |
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07:05
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arrith1 |
wow, could do like a 'live off the land' farm setup with a greenhouse and livestock, if there's a source of water |
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07:05
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BlueMax |
sounds dark |
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07:05
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Aranje |
there's a road most of the way to hellroaring plateau, but need a real car |
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07:05
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Aranje |
then a 5 mile hike |
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07:05
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|
Aranje |
it's not too bad |
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07:05
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|
Aranje |
but like 10k or 11k feet |
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07:05
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|
Aranje |
<3 |
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07:05
🔗
|
underscor |
arrith1: Greenhouse, livestock, and fiber plox |
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07:09
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arrith1 |
underscor: haha yeah, i think either ohio or idaho has had really good internet for a while. and now google fibre isn't that far out |
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07:10
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arrith1 |
i wonder how much the least expensive fiber costs. like the kind they lay in the ocean that has to be really long. if it's that long it hopefully doesn't cost that much for a shorter piece |
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07:11
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Aranje |
the prices I remember from my fiber installation class were ~1$/foot |
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07:11
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|
underscor |
The equipment and laying it is the cost |
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07:11
🔗
|
underscor |
The actual fiber is super cheap |
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07:11
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Aranje |
yeah |
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07:11
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Aranje |
1$/foot, but 75$+ per termination, and that doesn't count equip |
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07:12
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arrith1 |
hmm just have to 'find' some 'old' equipment ;) |
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07:12
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|
Aranje |
and 75 was what we were recommended to charge, having *just* gotten the cert |
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07:12
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|
Aranje |
more experienced were higher |
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07:13
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arrith1 |
ah wow |
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07:14
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|
Aranje |
and initial capital investments are high |
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07:14
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|
Aranje |
you can do it manually but it'll suck shit |
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07:15
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|
Aranje |
plasma welders are... 20-50k |
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07:15
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arrith1 |
dang |
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07:15
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|
Aranje |
but that's cheating |
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07:15
🔗
|
Aranje |
they do almost everything for you |
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07:15
🔗
|
Aranje |
lol |
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07:15
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|
Aranje |
you actually just buy ends, don't even need to make em |
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07:15
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|
Aranje |
plasma puts em together |
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07:15
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|
Aranje |
end of story |
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07:15
🔗
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arrith1 |
yeah for some miles even that $1/foot adds up. not impossible but has to be really something you want |
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07:15
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Aranje |
yep |
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07:16
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|
Aranje |
but if you're gonna trench a thing that far... best not half-ass it |
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07:16
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|
Aranje |
and really, 5k/mi isn't much for the cable |
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07:16
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Aranje |
you'll get discounts on the purchase at that length |
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07:16
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|
Aranje |
and, sm only, seriously |
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07:17
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arrith1 |
makes me wonder how that remote NSA utah center is going to connect up to the internet |
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07:17
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|
arrith1 |
probably paying for lines to come in from all over |
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07:18
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|
Aranje |
it's 5 miles from google's newest fiber place |
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07:18
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|
Aranje |
and another 10 from salt lake |
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07:18
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|
Aranje |
it couldn't be more perfectly placed |
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07:19
🔗
|
Aranje |
center-ring fiber backbone for US goes right through salt lake |
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07:19
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arrith1 |
wow, that is pretty close |
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07:19
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|
Aranje |
(center as opposited to the ones that go north and south along the borderish) |
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07:19
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|
arrith1 |
interesting |
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07:19
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Aranje |
I mean shit, put em all on a google map |
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07:20
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Aranje |
bluffdale is the datacenter, 5 miles south is the muni network google bought |
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07:20
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|
Aranje |
north 10-15m is salt lake or whatever |
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07:20
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|
Aranje |
:P |
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07:20
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|
Aranje |
anyway, I have to sleep. getting up in 5.5 hours for some streaming thing on the east coast |
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07:21
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|
Aranje |
fuckers forget about us westcoasters |
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07:21
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|
arrith1 |
Aranje: yeah it is getting late |
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07:21
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|
underscor |
at least it's not tape delayed! |
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07:21
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|
Aranje |
lel |
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07:21
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|
Aranje |
lag delayed, not tape |
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07:21
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|
Aranje |
cdn-distribution-delayed |
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07:21
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|
underscor |
bits-on-wire-delayed |
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07:21
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|
Aranje |
light-in-tubes-delayed |
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07:22
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|
Aranje |
and the new breakthrough in fiber is empty tubes |
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07:22
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|
Aranje |
making a vacuum in the fiber, so light travels in vacuum |
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07:22
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|
Aranje |
boom, 60% speed of light -> 97% speed of light |
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07:23
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|
Aranje |
in lab conditions, ofc |
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07:23
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|
Aranje |
anyway, I'mma go to bed |
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07:23
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|
Aranje |
before I keep filling the wall of text, which is what I always do |
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07:25
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|
underscor |
lols |