[00:19] Wow america dates back to christ now [00:20] shit we are old ¬_¬ [00:43] :> [00:58] http://ask.slashdot.org/story/13/07/03/196210/ask-slashdot-permanent-preservation-of-human-knowledge [00:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Terminal_Event_Management_Policy [05:04] Time to get back to scanning old photos in. I got a few boxes left and then every film image I shot will now be scanned in. [05:04] I just think how much money I spent over the years to get film developed, ugh [05:41] Technology rules and Luddites drool [08:22] Okay question for the crowd. If you had to teach someone either emacs or vim which tutorials or training videos do you like? [08:22] A friend with a math degree just got a programming job [08:23] I want to give him good materials but I am not the best person to evaluate these materials since I think they all suck and that is the wrong attitude to take [08:24] am i the only person who really does not like video tutorials? [08:24] for that sort of thing anyway [08:27] in any case, i've not used emacs in years, but the built-in one was pretty good as i recall [08:27] I don't like video tutorials unless they are broken up into <2 minute segements so a person can jump around [08:27] ^ coming from someone who loves walls of text, so make of that what you will [08:27] video tutorials are like conference talks, linear and not the best way to learn [08:28] omf_: right, and i'm a very fast reader, so it's like, i can either spend 10 minutes watching a video or 20 seconds reading a page of text [08:28] it just seems inefficient [08:28] yeah reading allows scanning so a person can consume it faster [08:28] it is [08:29] text for me. [08:29] I can ctrl f text [08:29] but as a very first intro to editors I think a few minutes of watching would be helpful before jumping into using it [08:29] Smiley: haha, truth [08:29] when I forget how to do something specific. [08:29] in a video, thats a butt pain. [08:30] yes, it is [08:31] has anyone done blogging or articles about why video fails for teaching this stuff? I am sure there is a bunch of science to back up our observations [08:32] omf_: my suspicion is that for most people, it *doesn't* fail [08:33] which is why there's a lot of training videos being sold! [08:51] People bought pet rocks too [08:51] youtube search really is not that helpful since the metadata for videos is so small [09:48] http://imgur.com/gallery/ecHRDu6 [09:48] Smiley: ^ :) [09:52] wow the pain [09:52] they bump that with a chainsaw or something [09:52] samurai sword maybe [09:53] :D [09:55] circular saw is my guess, but thats a wall o_O [09:55] I will be so glad when all this job hunting will be over for me [09:55] omf_: I feel for you. [09:56] I learned a lot this last time because there is better material out there to work with. I know that high schools and colleges need to overhaul their resume classes [09:58] wait no, thats a floor [09:58] someone was cutting through the flooring then, whoops [09:58] (you can see the stand off in the top left) [09:59] It looks like cat 5e so it is not that expensive to replace in terms of material cost. Imagine if that had been fiber [09:59] hahaha [09:59] tbh it's not THAT bad [09:59] they will know which cables are cut. and can removethem [10:00] but it's lots of rerunning cable which isn't fun. [10:00] the man power to check all that shit and replace lines is where it is going to cost [10:02] one of the best hats http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/091/4/c/flying_spaghetti_monster_crochet_hat_by_rachaek-d604b3j.jpg [10:19] anyone got recommendations for references about job market salaries for programmers? [10:20] hmmm [10:20] such as example ranges? [10:20] regular search sucks for this because much of the data is old and when you limit by date you miss the sites that keep updated but list no dates [10:20] current market ranges [10:21] I think I found the place I want to work for, the only downside is they won a software patent lawsuit for a patent they have. The flipside to that is their main software product uses the patent so they are not trolling on something they don't use [10:21] i recall randomly seeing them but none are jumping to mind [10:21] shit like Newsweek, Forbes, etc.. always have generalized crap [10:21] how much do you need the job? [10:21] It is the first job in years that actually fits my skillset [10:22] plus it would be a $10,000 pay bump up [10:22] I'm pretty sure theregister.co.uk surveys their userbase but I can't find it now [10:23] If you know what to look for you can suss out a lot about a company before the interview. This research is something most people do not do enough of when looking around and then they wonder how they went to work for such a shit company [10:26] nod. [10:26] I got headhunted for this job, turned out far better than I could ever expect, but if I'd read the research I may of looked elsewhere :/ (and got a massive payrise...) [10:27] as theres lots of bad historical stuff, but it wasn't them who were bad, someone they were working with :/ [10:27] head hunters in my area are shit [10:27] Only the big cities have good tech head hunters in the US [10:27] You get a signing bonus? [10:29] so i got a interview of the ceo of printrbot [10:29] thanks to hak5 [10:37] no omf_ [10:38] but i was just happy to get the job. [10:41] i'm uploading more maximum pc cds [10:42] trying to get that last few i have of the last order uploaded [10:55] I think companies in general prey on the fact that people do not even recognize the power they have in the hiring process [11:35] so i'm grabing nzb.co forums [11:35] its going down in 24 hours [11:39] godane: looks pretty down to me already [11:44] its not [11:44] it maybe slow though [11:46] when i go to nzb.co i get a godaddy parking page [11:46] omf_: got somewhere I can upload a small file? [11:47] its nzbx.co [11:47] sorry [11:49] omf_: I have to leave shortly, but I found my copy of the Robert Half Technology 2013 salary guide- you should be able to find it as a download online somwhere [11:53] dashcloud, I am looking at their IT one now [11:54] has both 2012 and 2013 numbers [11:56] godane: are you going to be fast enough to grab it all (i.e. it's their end being the limiting factor?) [11:56] "So, like, don't quote me on this yet, but that cassette I just linked may have been one of the only known copies of that software." [11:56] Jason you said absolutely nothing in that sentence :P [12:03] or not linked [12:03] I also wondered too [12:04] which Casette, where did you link it, etc [12:07] The tweet before was a flickr image of the tape [12:11] Smiley: I got the forums [12:11] thats what i was after [12:11] he said lots. you just can't comprehend the awesome. [12:12] there is a cassette, which is quite obviously rare. [12:12] We know Jason archives stuff, so he's likely archiving this. [12:12] There is also an image of said cassette. [12:15] also "Bad Tape! Naughty Tape!" [12:16] * Smiley wonders if his dad still has teh BBC acorn tapes in the loft somewhere. [12:17] * BlueMax slaps Smiley for use of the non-word "teh" [12:17] * Smiley slaps BlueMax for the use of the non word "non-word". [12:18] * BlueMax slaps Smiley upside down [12:21] * omf_ slaps everyone http://stuffflypeoplelike.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/tumblr_lztvktPxhh1r03eaxo1_500.gif [12:22] If we were using google wave that gif would have been inlined [12:23] yes, as Google's mission statement for unpopular services [12:35] I am really liking the Jamestown soundtrack from the indie game music bundle 2. [13:42] so i may at some point upload Systm and diggnation so there can be a collection with metadate [13:42] *metadata [13:43] also the non-hd files will be uploaded [13:44] since diggnation hd files are already uploaded [13:44] i just know that that at least the first 100 episodes never had a hd video of them [13:45] so a lot of the episodes was upscaled to hd [14:00] maybe even the large files for the first 100 didn't exist at first [14:21] http://imgur.com/gallery/HWRf3H5 [14:21] * Smiley waits [14:21] wow. [14:26] http://imgur.com/gallery/i0htuRR/new [15:00] lol just got this old floppy, still works. has a game on it called "One Must Fall 2097". [15:00] Pretty hardcore requirements though, I don't think it'd work on my computer [15:01] Says it requires a 386, 4MB of RAM, DOS 5.0, VGA, High Density Drive and a hard Drive [15:02] brayden__: have you duped it yet! [15:03] ..duped? [15:04] duplicated [15:04] because if it works that is a really really really good reason to do it right now [15:05] oh yeah [15:05] copying all of these [15:06] * winr4r salutes [15:06] jsut got some other one [15:06] it might... might be a bit more dodgy [15:06] the little slidey bit was stuffed [15:06] hm. [15:06] have you heard of ddrescue? [15:06] because if you haven't, you're welcome [15:07] lol [15:07] yeah.. [15:07] brayden, I have played that [15:07] that might be important [15:07] Got a read error [15:08] lol [15:08] this thing comes with PKUNZIP, looks like that might be the only thing which survives [15:08] * winr4r plays sad pipe music [15:12] The floppy drive is trying as hard as it can! [15:12] a whole 50 KB/s [15:14] I guess it got there in the end [15:14] the zip files are all seemingly intact [15:14] oh no.. [15:14] lol [15:15] "NITEMARE - 3D" "EPISODE 1 - A house of horrors" [15:16] good thing pkunzip still seems to work [15:16] lol [15:17] It includes a bonus came called "Racer" which seems to be intact [15:30] brayden: excellent [15:31] "seems" lol [15:31] eh oh well [15:31] it is >20 KB if you lot want to try it [15:34] i just finished writing diggnation 2005 descs [15:34] sounds like fun? [15:38] just using this ddrescue stuff winr4r, I think it might be somewhat further back from the brink. [15:38] went down from 5 read errors to 1 [15:39] excellent [18:11] :) ddrescue is the win [18:15] yay omf2097 and nitemare 3d, shareware classics :) [18:17] in case you have never seen it http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/94/One%20Must%20Fall%202097_6.png [18:17] https://archive.org/details/OneMustFall2097 https://archive.org/details/Nitemare-3D [18:17] don't see a "racer" in there, you should send it to swizzle@demu.org [18:27] Just got super info on capturing Apple Cassettes. [18:27] Naturally, I was doing it wrong. [19:11] http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/06/28/the-spread-of-link-rot/ [19:18] indirectly links to http://bygonebureau.com/2011/01/17/link-rot/ which is another nice piece [19:34] oh joy, another hyper is coming on [19:34] SketchCow: oh, something easy to explain? [21:14] http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/07/how-jerry-pournelle-got-kicked-off-the-arpanet.html [21:26] http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-07-05/ [21:49] DFJustin: let me introduce you to http://dilbert.com/fast/ [22:08] ??? [22:24] yeah I'm aware of it, thing is the comic is lower res