| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:19
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omf_ |
Wow america dates back to christ now |
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00:20
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omf_ |
shit we are old ¬_¬ |
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00:43
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kvasir |
:> |
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00:58
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Ravenloft |
http://ask.slashdot.org/story/13/07/03/196210/ask-slashdot-permanent-preservation-of-human-knowledge |
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00:59
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Ravenloft |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Terminal_Event_Management_Policy |
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05:04
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omf_ |
Time to get back to scanning old photos in. I got a few boxes left and then every film image I shot will now be scanned in. |
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05:04
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omf_ |
I just think how much money I spent over the years to get film developed, ugh |
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05:41
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omf_ |
Technology rules and Luddites drool |
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08:22
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omf_ |
Okay question for the crowd. If you had to teach someone either emacs or vim which tutorials or training videos do you like? |
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08:22
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omf_ |
A friend with a math degree just got a programming job |
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08:23
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omf_ |
I want to give him good materials but I am not the best person to evaluate these materials since I think they all suck and that is the wrong attitude to take |
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08:24
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winr4r |
am i the only person who really does not like video tutorials? |
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08:24
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winr4r |
for that sort of thing anyway |
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08:27
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winr4r |
in any case, i've not used emacs in years, but the built-in one was pretty good as i recall |
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08:27
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omf_ |
I don't like video tutorials unless they are broken up into <2 minute segements so a person can jump around |
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08:27
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winr4r |
^ coming from someone who loves walls of text, so make of that what you will |
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08:27
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omf_ |
video tutorials are like conference talks, linear and not the best way to learn |
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08:28
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winr4r |
omf_: right, and i'm a very fast reader, so it's like, i can either spend 10 minutes watching a video or 20 seconds reading a page of text |
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08:28
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winr4r |
it just seems inefficient |
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08:28
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omf_ |
yeah reading allows scanning so a person can consume it faster |
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08:28
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omf_ |
it is |
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08:29
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Smiley |
text for me. |
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08:29
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Smiley |
I can ctrl f text |
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08:29
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omf_ |
but as a very first intro to editors I think a few minutes of watching would be helpful before jumping into using it |
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08:29
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winr4r |
Smiley: haha, truth |
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08:29
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Smiley |
when I forget how to do something specific. |
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08:29
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Smiley |
in a video, thats a butt pain. |
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08:30
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winr4r |
yes, it is |
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08:31
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omf_ |
has anyone done blogging or articles about why video fails for teaching this stuff? I am sure there is a bunch of science to back up our observations |
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08:32
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winr4r |
omf_: my suspicion is that for most people, it *doesn't* fail |
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08:33
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winr4r |
which is why there's a lot of training videos being sold! |
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08:51
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omf_ |
People bought pet rocks too |
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08:51
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omf_ |
youtube search really is not that helpful since the metadata for videos is so small |
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09:48
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ersi |
http://imgur.com/gallery/ecHRDu6 |
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09:48
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ersi |
Smiley: ^ :) |
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09:52
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omf_ |
wow the pain |
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09:52
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omf_ |
they bump that with a chainsaw or something |
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09:52
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omf_ |
samurai sword maybe |
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09:53
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ersi |
:D |
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09:55
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Smiley |
circular saw is my guess, but thats a wall o_O |
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09:55
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omf_ |
I will be so glad when all this job hunting will be over for me |
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09:55
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Smiley |
omf_: I feel for you. |
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09:56
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omf_ |
I learned a lot this last time because there is better material out there to work with. I know that high schools and colleges need to overhaul their resume classes |
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09:58
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Smiley |
wait no, thats a floor |
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09:58
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Smiley |
someone was cutting through the flooring then, whoops |
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09:58
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Smiley |
(you can see the stand off in the top left) |
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09:59
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omf_ |
It looks like cat 5e so it is not that expensive to replace in terms of material cost. Imagine if that had been fiber |
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09:59
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Smiley |
hahaha |
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09:59
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Smiley |
tbh it's not THAT bad |
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09:59
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Smiley |
they will know which cables are cut. and can removethem |
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10:00
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Smiley |
but it's lots of rerunning cable which isn't fun. |
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10:00
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omf_ |
the man power to check all that shit and replace lines is where it is going to cost |
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10:02
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omf_ |
one of the best hats http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/091/4/c/flying_spaghetti_monster_crochet_hat_by_rachaek-d604b3j.jpg |
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10:19
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omf_ |
anyone got recommendations for references about job market salaries for programmers? |
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10:20
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Smiley |
hmmm |
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10:20
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Smiley |
such as example ranges? |
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10:20
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omf_ |
regular search sucks for this because much of the data is old and when you limit by date you miss the sites that keep updated but list no dates |
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10:20
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omf_ |
current market ranges |
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10:21
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omf_ |
I think I found the place I want to work for, the only downside is they won a software patent lawsuit for a patent they have. The flipside to that is their main software product uses the patent so they are not trolling on something they don't use |
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10:21
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Smiley |
i recall randomly seeing them but none are jumping to mind |
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10:21
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omf_ |
shit like Newsweek, Forbes, etc.. always have generalized crap |
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10:21
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Smiley |
how much do you need the job? |
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10:21
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omf_ |
It is the first job in years that actually fits my skillset |
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10:22
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omf_ |
plus it would be a $10,000 pay bump up |
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10:22
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Smiley |
I'm pretty sure theregister.co.uk surveys their userbase but I can't find it now |
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10:23
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omf_ |
If you know what to look for you can suss out a lot about a company before the interview. This research is something most people do not do enough of when looking around and then they wonder how they went to work for such a shit company |
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10:26
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Smiley |
nod. |
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10:26
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Smiley |
I got headhunted for this job, turned out far better than I could ever expect, but if I'd read the research I may of looked elsewhere :/ (and got a massive payrise...) |
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10:27
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Smiley |
as theres lots of bad historical stuff, but it wasn't them who were bad, someone they were working with :/ |
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10:27
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omf_ |
head hunters in my area are shit |
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10:27
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omf_ |
Only the big cities have good tech head hunters in the US |
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10:27
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omf_ |
You get a signing bonus? |
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10:29
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godane |
so i got a interview of the ceo of printrbot |
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10:29
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godane |
thanks to hak5 |
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10:37
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Smiley |
no omf_ |
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10:38
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Smiley |
but i was just happy to get the job. |
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10:41
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godane |
i'm uploading more maximum pc cds |
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10:42
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godane |
trying to get that last few i have of the last order uploaded |
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10:55
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omf_ |
I think companies in general prey on the fact that people do not even recognize the power they have in the hiring process |
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11:35
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godane |
so i'm grabing nzb.co forums |
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11:35
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godane |
its going down in 24 hours |
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11:39
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winr4r |
godane: looks pretty down to me already |
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11:44
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godane |
its not |
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11:44
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godane |
it maybe slow though |
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11:46
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winr4r |
when i go to nzb.co i get a godaddy parking page |
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11:46
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dashcloud |
omf_: got somewhere I can upload a small file? |
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11:47
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godane |
its nzbx.co |
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11:47
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godane |
sorry |
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11:49
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dashcloud |
omf_: I have to leave shortly, but I found my copy of the Robert Half Technology 2013 salary guide- you should be able to find it as a download online somwhere |
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11:53
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omf_ |
dashcloud, I am looking at their IT one now |
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11:54
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omf_ |
has both 2012 and 2013 numbers |
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11:56
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Smiley |
godane: are you going to be fast enough to grab it all (i.e. it's their end being the limiting factor?) |
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11:56
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BlueMax |
"So, like, don't quote me on this yet, but that cassette I just linked may have been one of the only known copies of that software." |
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11:56
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BlueMax |
Jason you said absolutely nothing in that sentence :P |
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12:03
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norbert79 |
or not linked |
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12:03
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norbert79 |
I also wondered too |
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12:04
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norbert79 |
which Casette, where did you link it, etc |
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12:07
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omf_ |
The tweet before was a flickr image of the tape |
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12:11
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godane |
Smiley: I got the forums |
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12:11
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godane |
thats what i was after |
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12:11
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Smiley |
he said lots. you just can't comprehend the awesome. |
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12:12
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Smiley |
there is a cassette, which is quite obviously rare. |
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12:12
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Smiley |
We know Jason archives stuff, so he's likely archiving this. |
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12:12
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Smiley |
There is also an image of said cassette. |
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12:15
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Smiley |
also "Bad Tape! Naughty Tape!" |
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12:16
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|
* |
Smiley wonders if his dad still has teh BBC acorn tapes in the loft somewhere. |
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12:17
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|
* |
BlueMax slaps Smiley for use of the non-word "teh" |
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12:17
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* |
Smiley slaps BlueMax for the use of the non word "non-word". |
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12:18
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|
* |
BlueMax slaps Smiley upside down |
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12:21
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|
* |
omf_ slaps everyone http://stuffflypeoplelike.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/tumblr_lztvktPxhh1r03eaxo1_500.gif |
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12:22
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omf_ |
If we were using google wave that gif would have been inlined |
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12:23
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Baljem |
yes, as Google's mission statement for unpopular services |
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12:35
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omf_ |
I am really liking the Jamestown soundtrack from the indie game music bundle 2. |
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13:42
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godane |
so i may at some point upload Systm and diggnation so there can be a collection with metadate |
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13:42
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godane |
*metadata |
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13:43
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godane |
also the non-hd files will be uploaded |
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13:44
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godane |
since diggnation hd files are already uploaded |
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13:44
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godane |
i just know that that at least the first 100 episodes never had a hd video of them |
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13:45
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godane |
so a lot of the episodes was upscaled to hd |
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14:00
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godane |
maybe even the large files for the first 100 didn't exist at first |
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14:21
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DFJustin |
http://imgur.com/gallery/HWRf3H5 |
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14:21
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|
* |
Smiley waits |
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14:21
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Smiley |
wow. |
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14:26
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Smiley |
http://imgur.com/gallery/i0htuRR/new |
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15:00
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brayden__ |
lol just got this old floppy, still works. has a game on it called "One Must Fall 2097". |
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15:00
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brayden__ |
Pretty hardcore requirements though, I don't think it'd work on my computer |
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15:01
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brayden__ |
Says it requires a 386, 4MB of RAM, DOS 5.0, VGA, High Density Drive and a hard Drive |
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15:02
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winr4r |
brayden__: have you duped it yet! |
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15:03
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brayden |
..duped? |
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15:04
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winr4r |
duplicated |
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15:04
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winr4r |
because if it works that is a really really really good reason to do it right now |
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15:05
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brayden |
oh yeah |
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15:05
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brayden |
copying all of these |
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15:06
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|
* |
winr4r salutes |
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15:06
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brayden |
jsut got some other one |
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15:06
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brayden |
it might... might be a bit more dodgy |
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15:06
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brayden |
the little slidey bit was stuffed |
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15:06
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winr4r |
hm. |
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15:06
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winr4r |
have you heard of ddrescue? |
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15:06
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winr4r |
because if you haven't, you're welcome |
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15:07
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brayden |
lol |
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15:07
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brayden |
yeah.. |
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15:07
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omf_ |
brayden, I have played that |
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15:07
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brayden |
that might be important |
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15:07
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brayden |
Got a read error |
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15:08
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brayden |
lol |
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15:08
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brayden |
this thing comes with PKUNZIP, looks like that might be the only thing which survives |
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15:08
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|
* |
winr4r plays sad pipe music |
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15:12
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brayden |
The floppy drive is trying as hard as it can! |
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15:12
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brayden |
a whole 50 KB/s |
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15:14
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brayden |
I guess it got there in the end |
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15:14
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brayden |
the zip files are all seemingly intact |
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15:14
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brayden |
oh no.. |
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15:14
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brayden |
lol |
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15:15
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brayden |
"NITEMARE - 3D" "EPISODE 1 - A house of horrors" |
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15:16
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brayden |
good thing pkunzip still seems to work |
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15:16
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brayden |
lol |
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15:17
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|
brayden |
It includes a bonus came called "Racer" which seems to be intact |
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15:30
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winr4r |
brayden: excellent |
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15:31
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brayden |
"seems" lol |
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15:31
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brayden |
eh oh well |
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15:31
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brayden |
it is >20 KB if you lot want to try it |
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15:34
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godane |
i just finished writing diggnation 2005 descs |
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15:34
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brayden |
sounds like fun? |
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15:38
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brayden |
just using this ddrescue stuff winr4r, I think it might be somewhat further back from the brink. |
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15:38
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brayden |
went down from 5 read errors to 1 |
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15:39
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winr4r |
excellent |
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18:11
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Smiley |
:) ddrescue is the win |
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18:15
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DFJustin |
yay omf2097 and nitemare 3d, shareware classics :) |
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18:17
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omf_ |
in case you have never seen it http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/94/One%20Must%20Fall%202097_6.png |
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18:17
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DFJustin |
https://archive.org/details/OneMustFall2097 https://archive.org/details/Nitemare-3D |
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18:17
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DFJustin |
don't see a "racer" in there, you should send it to swizzle@demu.org |
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18:27
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SketchCow |
Just got super info on capturing Apple Cassettes. |
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18:27
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SketchCow |
Naturally, I was doing it wrong. |
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19:11
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DFJustin |
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/06/28/the-spread-of-link-rot/ |
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19:18
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DFJustin |
indirectly links to http://bygonebureau.com/2011/01/17/link-rot/ which is another nice piece |
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19:34
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Smiley |
oh joy, another hyper is coming on |
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19:34
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Smiley |
SketchCow: oh, something easy to explain? |
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21:14
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DFJustin |
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/07/how-jerry-pournelle-got-kicked-off-the-arpanet.html |
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21:26
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DFJustin |
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-07-05/ |
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21:49
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xmc |
DFJustin: let me introduce you to http://dilbert.com/fast/ |
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22:08
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Smiley |
??? |
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22:24
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DFJustin |
yeah I'm aware of it, thing is the comic is lower res |