[01:59] http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown/ [02:08] http://www.crunchbase.com/company/truanttoday I'm kind of glad that shut down [02:09] I wonder what forces were against them [02:09] their $1/student pricing seemed right [03:08] uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-173 [04:26] get a screaming deal on a 486 laptop https://archive.org/stream/bugbug-magazine-1995-06#page/n139/mode/2up [09:33] how to dial into a japanese bbs https://archive.org/stream/hello-stand-by-magazine-1994-03/HSB9403S#page/n27/mode/2up [17:35] http://t-a-w.blogspot.de/2013/07/introduction-to-data-archeology.html [17:35] can somebody recommend a good hex editor/viewer for linux that has a gui and is not wxhexeditor? [17:35] ghex [17:35] although [17:36] i'm not really qualified to tell you what a good hex editor is, i needed one once and yeah, it displayed and edited files as hex, other than that i'm probably nothing like the normal use case for a hex editor [17:36] i don't know either [17:36] but will try it, thanks [17:37] also made me google for kde and they have http://utils.kde.org/projects/okteta/ [17:37] ghex2 in the ubuntu repos i think [17:38] mmh, hexer looks nice [17:42] looks like there is mor ethan one "hexer", i just installed some cli thing [17:45] I doubt I will ever see the day where it turns out a KDE application has not been developed already for some kind of usecase [18:19] ivan`: why are you glad it shut down? [18:19] randomly another company under my employeers umbrella does a simular thing [18:22] "get students back into the classroom" [18:22] perhaps they should figure out why students aren't in the classroom, first [18:23] joepie91: thats not the job of that company. [18:23] *shrug*. Not that I don't agree. [18:23] * Smiley is slightly drunk too [18:23] then perhaps that company should not have existex [18:23] existed * [18:23] guess that's kind of the case now, though [18:25] no no [18:25] the _need_ for the company should never of existed. [18:25] the company existing is irrelevent. [18:26] Should never /have/ existed. [18:26] also the one I spoke of, they do doctors appointments, dentist appointments, all that kind of thing too [18:26] parents evenings.... [18:26] :) [18:26] s/linguo/antomatic [18:26] :P [18:26] joepie91: i'm with you [18:27] Smiley: it's kind of like if the EDL food-stall division shut down [18:28] So we are going to compare racist biggots to a company who provide a simple text message service? [18:28] yeah, that was a pretty bad and very stretched analogy [18:28] my bad [18:30] I mean I get the idea of asking why the kids/adults/whoever aren't in class, That's fully valid imo [18:30] That doesn't mean the company shouldn't exist, it simply means the company shouldn't have any business. :D [18:31] joepie91 was saying that a company like that would not exist in a decent society [18:31] aka "should not exist" [18:31] ^ [18:31] Ok [18:32] the assumption that people make that they should police their kids and send them back to class, rather than trying to fix what is making them not be in class (on a larger scale), is the problem [18:32] So you have nothing against the company itself, just the fact that it exists as a function of people not going to classes is a indicator of the failure of the classes themselves. Fair enough :) [18:32] a company facilitating that assumption has no right of existence in a proper society, really [18:32] Hmmmm [18:32] lots of companies exist due to stupid society though [18:32] Google exists because we can't be bothered to remember urls. [18:33] absolutely, and this is far from the only company that I think has no right to existence [18:33] and not quite [18:33] Google has a strong aspect of discovery [18:33] Amazon basically exists because we like buying shit tht other people brought :D [18:33] and beyond-human-scale data sorting [18:33] ebay exists because we can't be bothered to give to charity/find people locally who might need our old shit. [18:33] that said, people googling for "$bank ebanking" are... just ragh [18:33] argh * [18:33] or people typing URLs into google... [18:33] banks exist because we can't even handle money between ourselves properly. [18:34] Smiley: you are over-simplifying [18:34] banks have had some right of existence [18:34] I would however say that that right of existence has been more or less evaporated by now [18:34] * Smiley wibbles [18:34] right [18:34] I need some music, [18:35] (being facilitating usable long-distance monetary transactions in a time where no good and reliable long-distance communication methods were available) [18:35] and to decide what game i wanna mong out to [18:35] Also I need to buy some duct tape at some point [18:35] * Smiley goes to amazon :D [18:35] joepie91: oh no, the banks as they actually are have lost the right of existence by all the fucking awful frauds they have committed [18:35] winr4r: all ridiculous shit they've done does not erase a purpose [18:35] in any case [18:36] I'd say that their purpose has been erased through the existence of the internet [18:36] i don't see that you two really have a disagreement [18:36] I only have one other thing to do right now besides discussing [18:36] so meh [18:36] that other thing being backing up my brain [18:36] I need to tidy in here, sort my frog/fish downstairs [18:37] possibly get the washing in as I think a storm is coming [18:37] which is kind of a really fucking huge project [18:37] "frog/fish"? [18:37] move wood out of my next door neighours (currently being built) Extension under cover in my garden.... [18:37] I have a frog, and some fish [18:37] i hope that means your frog *and* fish rather than some weird hybrid [18:37] they are seperate [18:37] oh [18:37] gotcha :D [18:37] :) [18:37] could live together, but frog would likely never get any food Â¬_Â¬ [18:37] Smiley: that problem would probably solve itself [18:38] anyway, suggestions for backing up my brain in writing form? [18:38] Yah, except I don't want it to, and it's not fair :P [18:38] joepie91: take pen and paper [18:38] meditate and write [18:39] I'll be using computer and keyboard [18:39] I can't write large amounts of text [18:39] still works [18:40] or write an autobiography I guess. [18:40] Meditating helps me recall things randomly. [18:40] Starting to get somewhere understanding my social issues. [18:40] and man, it's fucked up [18:41] meditation, noted [18:41] thanks [18:41] no worries. [19:29] fucking wifi [19:42] g4tv.com-video23317: Napster Debate part 1: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23317 [19:43] g4tv.com-video23315: Napster Debate part 2: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23315 [19:43] g4tv.com-video23319: Napster Debate part 3: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23319