#archiveteam-bs 2013-07-20,Sat

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Time Nickname Message
01:59 🔗 Cameron_D http://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown/
02:08 🔗 ivan` http://www.crunchbase.com/company/truanttoday I'm kind of glad that shut down
02:09 🔗 ivan` I wonder what forces were against them
02:09 🔗 ivan` their $1/student pricing seemed right
03:08 🔗 godane uploaded: http://archive.org/details/cdrom-linuxformatmagazine-173
04:26 🔗 DFJustin get a screaming deal on a 486 laptop https://archive.org/stream/bugbug-magazine-1995-06#page/n139/mode/2up
09:33 🔗 DFJustin how to dial into a japanese bbs https://archive.org/stream/hello-stand-by-magazine-1994-03/HSB9403S#page/n27/mode/2up
17:35 🔗 Schbirid http://t-a-w.blogspot.de/2013/07/introduction-to-data-archeology.html
17:35 🔗 Schbirid can somebody recommend a good hex editor/viewer for linux that has a gui and is not wxhexeditor?
17:35 🔗 winr4r ghex
17:35 🔗 winr4r although
17:36 🔗 winr4r i'm not really qualified to tell you what a good hex editor is, i needed one once and yeah, it displayed and edited files as hex, other than that i'm probably nothing like the normal use case for a hex editor
17:36 🔗 Schbirid i don't know either
17:36 🔗 Schbirid but will try it, thanks
17:37 🔗 Schbirid also made me google for kde and they have http://utils.kde.org/projects/okteta/
17:37 🔗 winr4r ghex2 in the ubuntu repos i think
17:38 🔗 Schbirid mmh, hexer looks nice
17:42 🔗 Schbirid looks like there is mor ethan one "hexer", i just installed some cli thing
17:45 🔗 joepie91 I doubt I will ever see the day where it turns out a KDE application has not been developed already for some kind of usecase
18:19 🔗 Smiley ivan`: why are you glad it shut down?
18:19 🔗 Smiley randomly another company under my employeers umbrella does a simular thing
18:22 🔗 joepie91 "get students back into the classroom"
18:22 🔗 joepie91 perhaps they should figure out why students aren't in the classroom, first
18:23 🔗 Smiley joepie91: thats not the job of that company.
18:23 🔗 Smiley *shrug*. Not that I don't agree.
18:23 🔗 * Smiley is slightly drunk too
18:23 🔗 joepie91 then perhaps that company should not have existex
18:23 🔗 joepie91 existed *
18:23 🔗 joepie91 guess that's kind of the case now, though
18:25 🔗 Smiley no no
18:25 🔗 Smiley the _need_ for the company should never of existed.
18:25 🔗 Smiley the company existing is irrelevent.
18:26 🔗 Linguo Should never /have/ existed.
18:26 🔗 Smiley also the one I spoke of, they do doctors appointments, dentist appointments, all that kind of thing too
18:26 🔗 Smiley parents evenings....
18:26 🔗 antomatic :)
18:26 🔗 Smiley s/linguo/antomatic
18:26 🔗 Smiley :P
18:26 🔗 winr4r joepie91: i'm with you
18:27 🔗 winr4r Smiley: it's kind of like if the EDL food-stall division shut down
18:28 🔗 Smiley So we are going to compare racist biggots to a company who provide a simple text message service?
18:28 🔗 winr4r yeah, that was a pretty bad and very stretched analogy
18:28 🔗 winr4r my bad
18:30 🔗 Smiley I mean I get the idea of asking why the kids/adults/whoever aren't in class, That's fully valid imo
18:30 🔗 Smiley That doesn't mean the company shouldn't exist, it simply means the company shouldn't have any business. :D
18:31 🔗 winr4r joepie91 was saying that a company like that would not exist in a decent society
18:31 🔗 winr4r aka "should not exist"
18:31 🔗 joepie91 ^
18:31 🔗 Smiley Ok
18:32 🔗 joepie91 the assumption that people make that they should police their kids and send them back to class, rather than trying to fix what is making them not be in class (on a larger scale), is the problem
18:32 🔗 Smiley So you have nothing against the company itself, just the fact that it exists as a function of people not going to classes is a indicator of the failure of the classes themselves. Fair enough :)
18:32 🔗 joepie91 a company facilitating that assumption has no right of existence in a proper society, really
18:32 🔗 Smiley Hmmmm
18:32 🔗 Smiley lots of companies exist due to stupid society though
18:32 🔗 Smiley Google exists because we can't be bothered to remember urls.
18:33 🔗 joepie91 absolutely, and this is far from the only company that I think has no right to existence
18:33 🔗 joepie91 and not quite
18:33 🔗 joepie91 Google has a strong aspect of discovery
18:33 🔗 Smiley Amazon basically exists because we like buying shit tht other people brought :D
18:33 🔗 joepie91 and beyond-human-scale data sorting
18:33 🔗 Smiley ebay exists because we can't be bothered to give to charity/find people locally who might need our old shit.
18:33 🔗 joepie91 that said, people googling for "$bank ebanking" are... just ragh
18:33 🔗 joepie91 argh *
18:33 🔗 joepie91 or people typing URLs into google...
18:33 🔗 Smiley banks exist because we can't even handle money between ourselves properly.
18:34 🔗 winr4r Smiley: you are over-simplifying
18:34 🔗 joepie91 banks have had some right of existence
18:34 🔗 joepie91 I would however say that that right of existence has been more or less evaporated by now
18:34 🔗 * Smiley wibbles
18:34 🔗 Smiley right
18:34 🔗 Smiley I need some music,
18:35 🔗 joepie91 (being facilitating usable long-distance monetary transactions in a time where no good and reliable long-distance communication methods were available)
18:35 🔗 Smiley and to decide what game i wanna mong out to
18:35 🔗 Smiley Also I need to buy some duct tape at some point
18:35 🔗 * Smiley goes to amazon :D
18:35 🔗 winr4r joepie91: oh no, the banks as they actually are have lost the right of existence by all the fucking awful frauds they have committed
18:35 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: all ridiculous shit they've done does not erase a purpose
18:35 🔗 winr4r in any case
18:36 🔗 joepie91 I'd say that their purpose has been erased through the existence of the internet
18:36 🔗 winr4r i don't see that you two really have a disagreement
18:36 🔗 joepie91 I only have one other thing to do right now besides discussing
18:36 🔗 joepie91 so meh
18:36 🔗 joepie91 that other thing being backing up my brain
18:36 🔗 Smiley I need to tidy in here, sort my frog/fish downstairs
18:37 🔗 Smiley possibly get the washing in as I think a storm is coming
18:37 🔗 joepie91 which is kind of a really fucking huge project
18:37 🔗 winr4r "frog/fish"?
18:37 🔗 Smiley move wood out of my next door neighours (currently being built) Extension under cover in my garden....
18:37 🔗 Smiley I have a frog, and some fish
18:37 🔗 winr4r i hope that means your frog *and* fish rather than some weird hybrid
18:37 🔗 Smiley they are seperate
18:37 🔗 winr4r oh
18:37 🔗 winr4r gotcha :D
18:37 🔗 Smiley :)
18:37 🔗 Smiley could live together, but frog would likely never get any food ¬_¬
18:37 🔗 joepie91 Smiley: that problem would probably solve itself
18:38 🔗 joepie91 anyway, suggestions for backing up my brain in writing form?
18:38 🔗 Smiley Yah, except I don't want it to, and it's not fair :P
18:38 🔗 Smiley joepie91: take pen and paper
18:38 🔗 Smiley meditate and write
18:39 🔗 joepie91 I'll be using computer and keyboard
18:39 🔗 joepie91 I can't write large amounts of text
18:39 🔗 Smiley still works
18:40 🔗 Smiley or write an autobiography I guess.
18:40 🔗 Smiley Meditating helps me recall things randomly.
18:40 🔗 Smiley Starting to get somewhere understanding my social issues.
18:40 🔗 Smiley and man, it's fucked up
18:41 🔗 joepie91 meditation, noted
18:41 🔗 joepie91 thanks
18:41 🔗 Smiley no worries.
19:29 🔗 godane fucking wifi
19:42 🔗 godane g4tv.com-video23317: Napster Debate part 1: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23317
19:43 🔗 godane g4tv.com-video23315: Napster Debate part 2: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23315
19:43 🔗 godane g4tv.com-video23319: Napster Debate part 3: http://archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video23319

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